Geno Auriemma: "Mr. Women's Basketball"

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  1. DobbsRover2

    DobbsRover2 Slap me 10

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    Nope, with NCAA rules the way they are, you better get that degree. If Calhoun had been harder on this point, the UConn men's team wouldn't be in the pickle it is. Whether you've learned life's lessons in college or not, you owe it to your team to get that piece of paper.
     
  2. PacoSwede

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    D no doubt felt she owed it to the team, to UConn, to kids who admire her and probably others, and that's a real good reason to come back to get that piece of paper. But, for herself? She didn't need it ... as is true with many folks. And, ya know, isn't that kind of sad? That you must have this piece of paper simply because others demand that you have it? Guess getting it could be seen as a righteous exercise of self-discipline, though.

    Your point is certainly accurate, of course.
     
  3. vowelguy

    vowelguy Boneyard contrarian since 1998

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    How do you know she didn't need it? She's not gonna play basketball forever, and unlike an NBA star I highly doubt she's set for life.
    At some point she's probably going to need another career.
     
  4. Scotter

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    She's been making in the neighborhood of 1 million per year for about 5 years now. If she wanted to be set for life, she could be. I'm sure she'll find something to occupy her time, but I doubt it will involve sociology. Having her degree is good if she wants to coach college ball, but we have learned you can be the head coach at USC without being a college graduate.
     
  5. Kait14

    Kait14 Kait the Great

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    I can't really feel bad when Emeka had one less year and was an economics major
     
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  6. Icebear

    Icebear Andlig Ledare

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    I believe he was a double major.
     
  7. HuskyNan

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    Maybe you can get a job as a coach without a resume at some places but there are probably others that do require one. Why limit your opportunities?

    And there are other reasons that have nothing to do with earning a paycheck...
     
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  8. PacoSwede

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    Well, she's not likely to be paid to play basketball forever, sure. Let's say she needs another career. It's really pathetic that despite all that D brings to the table -- her ability to lead, for example, is astounding -- people/society believe she must have a college degree in order to be productive. How freakin' absurd.

    Lots and lots of talent is submerged because of that norm. We're lucky that Dickens, Picasso, Lennon and many others didn't have to meet the standard.
     
  9. phil sampieri

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    There is a great quote by Calvin Coolidge- titled Press On which addresses
    education. wish I could find it.
     
  10. Icebear

    Icebear Andlig Ledare

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    An older but good friend of mine has had an amazing life. One of his great sources of pride is that he has never used his undergraduate degree in civil engineering for a single day of his livelihood. He became a journalist for the Navy during the Korean War. He still works as a professional hypnotist with contracts going back 30 years. He has been a union organizer and has taught union law as a college professor. He worked with James Michener at Time magazine and was a bureau chief for them in Central and South America. He grew up on the Mississippi Delta and went to school with Charlie Connelly former quarterback and star with the NY Giants.

    One of his favorite friends earned his PHD in philosophy and then went back to work on the farm. The friend's explanation was he thought it would be good to have something to think about all day on the tractor.
     
  11. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    Does scoring the winning basket make a team better in some way? I mean if they fought the good fight what does it matter if the chuck it out bounds on the last play?

    Not finishing what you start is a bad habit.
     
  12. Icebear

    Icebear Andlig Ledare

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    Is this it?

    “Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
     
  13. PacoSwede

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    I don't understand your first paragraph.

    Regarding he second, I wrote earlier in this thread regarding finishing up a degree: "Guess getting it could be seen as a righteous exercise of self-discipline, though."

    Maybe you missed that?
     
  14. PacoSwede

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    There are indeed other reasons, real good ones, for getting an education besides securing a paycheck.

    Thing is, most of them can be accomplished without ever seeing a sheepskin. Diploma = Education is a defective equation. But, it is a big profit center for the academic-industrial complex (and I have a feeling there are a fair number of BYers working in it).

    From a practical standpoint, I agree that it's wise not to limit opportunities. But, perhaps the price of maximizing opportunities is too high for some people, and in the process the best opportunities may be squandered.
     
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    vowelguy Boneyard contrarian since 1998

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    Society sets lines all over the place.

    I'm sure there are med students who fail the boards that could be good doctors. Would you trust your surgery to one?

    Or a non-certified electrician. Or an unlicensed trucker. Or about a zillion other examples.
     
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  16. phil sampieri

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    Is this not true ?
     
  17. Waquoit

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    Total nonsense.
     
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    Icebear Andlig Ledare

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    Exactly, it is nonsense to think that cursing is in anyway a positive. Simply amounts to a lack of respect of oneself and one's neighbor.
     
  19. alexrgct

    alexrgct Wise Guy

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    Geno's point wasn't that D personally wouldn't thrive without a degree. The point was that she is a role model, a member of a program that emphasizes its kids graduate (and did so before APR), and she's one of the most visible female athletes we have. Setting the right example is important.
     
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  20. Kait14

    Kait14 Kait the Great

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    Major was finance, graduated in 3 years with a 3.8 GPA.. So really no excuses =)
     
  21. PacoSwede

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    Gaining something valuable from the college experience is important. Setting the right example is important -- if that involves getting the diploma, then that also is important. Just getting a diploma to get a diploma ain't, but some people think it is and have a lesser opinion of anyone who doesn't play that game. I object, not that it makes any difference.
     
  22. Icebear

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    Agreed the double which I thought was Econ would make it even less of an excuse.
     
  23. blackbird

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    That wasn't his point at all.

    Geno's point was Diana going to college was a great source of pride for her parents. They're immigrants (like his parents) and having Diana attend college and get a degree probably meant the world to them.

    It was very much a "respect what your parents have done for you so you can enjoy the privilege you have."
     
  24. blackbird

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    Or you could say that Kemba, also graduated in three years, in SOCIOLOGY. And according to him, has only read one book :p
     
  25. alexrgct

    alexrgct Wise Guy

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    You can object all you want. You don't get to talk about why it doesn't matter that you don't have a degree on your resume, or what you did get out of college even if you didn't graduate, and many, many recruiters and HR screeners won't give you a second look without it.

    A degree is a proxy for having completed what you set out to do. Your average 22 year old has very little else to demonstrate this.

    Diana was not an average 22 year old. She has special talents, talents that mean a lot of young girls looked/look up to her. Geno didn't want her to send the message that a degree isn't important. Can you have a successful life without a degree? Sure- it's just less likely. Similarly, you can make it home safe if you drive drunk, but statistically, you're safer sober. Diana has, in her youth, needed to be reminded that there are comparatively few superstar women athletes, and because she is one of them, that gives her proportionally more responsibility than even a male athlete of similar stature. I, for one, applaud what Geno did.
     
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