Gampel v XL Center Records - Daily Campus

[businesslawyer]

I'm bringing more to the table than you here, Guapo. And in the real world, people realize that the three purposes of a university is sex for the students, parking for the the faculty and sports for the alumni.

Does that mean we can trade? I would gladly give up convenience in getting to games if instead I can have sex with students.

 

[Get a Job]

Here is my conservative quick and dirty: The center 4 lower bowl section have about 25 rows with 15 seats. 25*14*4*$1,000=$1,500,000.
I'm not going to bother with the rest of the seat donations but I'm sure it totals more than $500K. I think you should donate $100 to the Calhoun Cardiology Center. Enough with people wrongly calling others out without consequences.

He didn't "call you out." He just asked for evidence of your claim, which you did not provide. Your made-up numbers might be close to accurate, or they might be wildly wrong, but they certainly aren't backed up by any evidence. They also only look at one side of the issue. The supply and demand dynamics at the Gampel games would be totally different in a Gampel-only scenario. Hypothetical to illustrate my point: The school misses out on $2 million from the games that would have been at XL, but they make $1.8 million more at the "new" Gampel games. Net revenue loss is $200k, not $2 million.

 

[Waquoit]

He didn't "call you out." He just asked for evidence of your claim, which you did not provide. Your made-up numbers might be close to accurate, or they might be wildly wrong, but they certainly aren't backed up by any evidence.

All of those seats are $1,000 seats. I double checked my multiplication. I think there are even more. That's evidence. You owe the Calhoun Fund a hundy as well.

 

[Get a Job]

All of those seats are $1,000 seats. I double checked my multiplication. I think there are even more. That's evidence. You owe the Calhoun Fund a hundy as well.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I know that you are not providing any evidence of anything. The question that you asked, and you seem to think you have answered, is, "How much money will UConn lose if they stop playing games in Hartford." The question you are actually addressing, albeit completely without any publicly available data, is, "How much money does UConn take in per year at XL center games in the form of seat donations?" The answer to the latter question is but a small piece of the answer to the former.

And, again, your quick and dirty calculations are not evidence of anything.

 

[BPT2Storrs]

Hurley's wife just tweeted out support for the article, which is fine enough.

But I do hope Hurley isn't acting like a boy about the XL Center around the players. What he does, the players will follow, and if he shows negative attitude towards the venue, they will too. They will in turn likely play poorer in said venue.

Can't say I'm holding any hope that Danny isn't acting like a big baby in front of them though- after his recent antics the last few weeks.

Perhaps Hurley is being the voice for the university/AD? It’s clear as day XL will be hosting games for the foreseeable future unless someone of prominence and power speaks up.

 

[August_West]

I'm bringing more to the table than you here, Guapo. And in the real world, people realize that the three purposes of a university is sex for the students, parking for the the faculty and sports for the alumni.

LOL. Ill take my chances with the "alumni" who would forgo tix because its gampel instead of XL.


We will miss all 43 of you.

 

[TMB4405]

I think this is funny. First Uconn will be playing at XL unless it goes away. It’s a way for the state to
Move money around and shield the losses of the XL center. It’s also a political issue related to supporting downtown Hartford. I don’t think the University is ready to start this fight.

Second as someone who attends a lot of games over a long period of time the XL and Gampel games do not produce noticeable differences in performance/crowd noise or otherwise. There are plenty of snoozers at Gampel and plenty of raucous atmospheres at XL. If students were really into hoops they would find a way to XL. Stop making excuses and support your school.

I don’t care what happens as I will go wherever the game is but stomping your feet over something that is not going to change seems nonsensical to me.

 

[August_West]

I think this is funny. First Uconn will be playing at XL unless it goes away. It’s a way for the state to
Move money around and shield the losses of the XL center. It’s also a political issue related to supporting downtown Hartford. I don’t think the University is ready to start this fight.

Second as someone who attends a lot of games over a long period of time the XL and Gampel games do not produce noticeable differences in performance/crowd noise or otherwise. There are plenty of snoozers at Gampel and plenty of raucous atmospheres at XL. If students were really into hoops they would find a way to XL. Stop making excuses and support your school.

I don’t care what happens as I will go wherever the game is but stomping your feet over something that is not going to change seems nonsensical to me.

Where do you prefer to see a game?

 

[Guapo]

Alabama used to play some home football games in Birmingham. They stopped in 2000.

I think things have worked out ok for them since then.

It’s a shame some posters here don’t want UConn basketball to have the same success as Alabama football.

Smh

 

[Guapo]

Crazy that UNC fans can do the drive from Raleigh to Chapel Hill, yet some UConn “fans” here can’t do the same from Hartford to Storrs. Those people should be embarrassed.

 

[Waquoit]

LOL. Ill take my chances with the "alumni" who would forgo tix because its gampel instead of XL.
We will miss all 43 of you.

I guess that's the crux. I'm not going to Gampel but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop being a fan. I'll just be more like the vast majority of the Yard that doesn't go to games. One thing I'm having a problem with is the posters like @zls44 making it personal. It's not, I just don't think it's a given at all that the program is better off leaving Hartford. It's just recency bias at work. They shake the tree pretty hard already and all the good seats at Gampel have those "lifetime guarantees" on them. I don't see where the new money is coming from to make up for Hartford. Perhaps the XL haters could start a fund to make up the gap.

 

[Guapo]

I guess that's the crux. I'm not going to Gampel but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop being a fan. I'll just be more like the vast majority of the Yard that doesn't go to games. One thing I'm having a problem with is the posters like @zls44 making it personal. It's not, I just don't think it's a given at all that the program is better off leaving Hartford. It's just recency bias at work. They shake the tree pretty hard already and all the good seats at Gampel have those "lifetime guarantees" on them. I don't see where the new money is coming from to make up for Hartford. Perhaps the XL haters could start a fund to make up the gap.

UConn doesn’t make money playing in Hartford. The only legitimate argument you have is that playing in Hartford gives the school leeway with state politicians to do other things it wants

 

[phillionaire]

Crazy that UNC fans can do the drive from Raleigh to Chapel Hill, yet some UConn “fans” here can’t do the same from Hartford to Storrs. Those people should be embarrassed.

The Venn Diagram of people complaining about having to drive to Storrs and people complaining that kids these days won't go to games because of the tik toks and video games and that back in their day they cared way more than these soft kids is a single circle

 

[Guapo]

UConn doesn’t make money playing in Hartford. The only legitimate argument you have is that playing in Hartford gives the school leeway with state politicians to do other things it wants

(And that’s a sucky reason to continue playing in Hartford the same amount!)

 

[CL82]

UConn doesn’t make money playing in Hartford. The only legitimate argument you have is that playing in Hartford gives the school leeway with state politicians to do other things it wants

Yeah kind of seems like he’s arguments weren’t really in good faith.

 

[Guapo]

Yeah kind of seems like he’s arguments weren’t really in good faith.

Lol I don’t mind @Waquoit

This has just been a years long awful take and/or troll job on his part.

His commitment to the bit is impressive, though

 

[Salty Dog]

The people who love the XL center are the same people who are happy we have the Rent in East Hartford.

It sucks.

Will I continue to go? Of course, but if we have the opportunity to change it you take it.

- someone who graduated last year.

 

[Austin316]

Since Hurley Era

Gampel record:
37-8* (includes 20-21)
Winning 84%

XL record:
17-10
Winning 63%

 

[auror]

You must have looked on basketball reference, they don't have a single game being played in Hartford for 8 seasons in a row. They list all the home games as being played in Storrs. It's usually a great resource for basketball stats but they get that one totally wrong.

The data provider must not have home arena info pre-2011. That's when KenPom starts listing it as well, before it's blank.

 

[UconnU]

Doesn’t help that the school scares the crap out of the students about the virus even though they largely aren’t at risk of severe covid. The 50% student cap, the vax requirement, all that stuff is having a really negative effect on attendance and needs to go out the window. Covid zeroism is stupid.

 

[CL82]

The people who love the XL center are the same people who are happy we have the Rent in East Hartford. It sucks. - someone who graduated last year.

I am grateful to have Rentschler field, it’s a great place to see a game, but it be even better if it were on campus.

 

[August_West]

Does that mean we can trade? I would gladly give up convenience in getting to games if instead I can have sex with students.

You didnt marry an alum?

 

[Waquoit]

Yeah kind of seems like he’s arguments weren’t really in good faith.

All my arguments are made in good faith. Bad faith would be something like comparing UConn to a football factory. Or projection like committing to the bit. I don't know for sure but when you read elsewhere UConn doesn't make money in Hartford, I'm thinking they aren't including seat donations. You and Guapo are saying it does, do I have that right?

 

[Guapo]

All my arguments are made in good faith. Bad faith would be something like comparing UConn to a football factory. Or projection like committing to the bit. I don't know for sure but when you read elsewhere UConn doesn't make money in Hartford, I'm thinking they aren't including seat donations. You and Guapo are saying it does, do I have that right?

Lol I was making fun of your bad faith argument style

 

[CL82]

All my arguments are made in good faith. Bad faith would be something like comparing UConn to a football factory. Or projection like committing to the bit. I don't know for sure but when you read elsewhere UConn doesn't make money in Hartford, I'm thinking they aren't including seat donations. You and Guapo are saying it does, do I have that right?

But you don’t know that they’re not including that seat license money, do you? You don’t know that with more games that Gampel whether the seat license fees would go up, do you? Yet, you keep hammering that as if you knew that seat license revenue made up the difference in renting a venue versus playing in the schools on stadium.

Sure seems like bad faith to me.

 

[freescooter]

so what I’m getting from all this is that attendance remains an issue both at XL and Gampel. But, but, but most posters here insisted that a “return“ to the New Big East would generate so much excitement that we would have to beat people away from the doors of either venue with baseball bats. Turns out people apparently aren’t all that interested in most of the NOOB. They like a few original Big East teams well enough, but Chief’s vaunted “ casual fan” has no more interest in watching UConn play the Creightons and the Butlers of the world as they do watching them play Tulsa and Tulane.

 

[businesslawyer]

You didnt marry an alum?

As I'm not an alum, can safely say no.

 

[BigTenFan]

Playing in Hartford sucks and is antithetical to what college sports is.

The record difference is largely inconsequential but lends further credence to the overall obvious view of it sucking

Agreed. Games should be on campus. Top college teams make home court advantage part of the culture.

Hartford is not what it was 20 years ago. Limited dining in walking distance, expensive parking , no amenities at XL. Identity of the team and University should be in Storrs

 

[WrenchFan69]

I think college sports should be played on campus and as far as arenas go I much prefer Gampel to XL. I don't think we will stop playing at XL any time soon, so we may as well make the most of it. More strategic scheduling for XL games would be useful. Mid-week 6:30 games are tough, especially with so many people still working from home. Limiting XL games to winter break and massive guaranteed sell outs is a good start

 

[John]

so what I’m getting from all this is that attendance remains an issue both at XL and Gampel. But, but, but most posters here insisted that a “return“ to the New Big East would generate so much excitement that we would have to beat people away from the doors of either venue with baseball bats. Turns out people apparently aren’t all that interested in most of the NOOB. They like a few original Big East teams well enough, but Chief’s vaunted “ casual fan” has no more interest in watching UConn play the Creightons and the Butlers of the world as they do watching them play Tulsa and Tulane.