Gamecocks 2024-25 Season: Part One
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Good. After waiting for weeks to learn the Vegas opener will be against Michigan, might take forced scheduling to get some of these other top ten programs on the docket.
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Well, when you have a very large fan base, certainly one of the top 2 in the Carolinas it hard not to be all things Carolina...ok Clemson is up there with us too...ugh
If Duke would schedule us in any sport that we have in common and play in Durham, our fans may take over. UNC fans are always on their boards begging their fans to buy tickets when we play in Chapel Hill cause they know what will happen if they don't. They do the same with Clemson also.
Charlotte may be in the state of NC but it's a home game for us and Clemson.
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I have to say that I was highly disappointed by Coach Bev Smith's involvement in the verbal spat with D'Auna Jennings in the final game. You got a problem with something a player says or does? Bring it up to one of her coaches and/or the umpires/officials. And while D'Auna could've, in theory, handled it better, it's easy to forget that she's a sophomore. I'm not excusing D'Auna because she should've kept her emotions in check. But come on, Bev--really showing off that UNC (University of No Class) upbringing.
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The Duke player should have told her to sit her ____ in the dugout. Just accept that arse kicking like an adult.
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@Fanofball . I cannot respond about your post on the UConn board. @HuskyNan gets pizzed at me for discussing the Gamecocks on that board. However, I must respond to your post:
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Yeah, SC and LSU really didn't have a great OOC. Dawn was playing teams way under her talent last season (Come on, Rutgers? SD state? Clemson? Miss. Valley State? Morgan State? Why are you playing these people, Dawn?) I'm not against Dawn or anything but she is capable of a much better schedule than this. Sure, she had Duke and ND, and an injured UCONN, but other than that, not much else. And then of course nothing needs to be said about Mulkey. She may as well have been beating up DII talent.
Out of all three of the coaches, Geno has probably had the best quality wins. His OOC is always stacked. Just last season we had NC State, Texas, UCLA, ND, and SC. Granted we lost, but that's what his OOC always looks like. We're scheduled for USC next season as well.
Part of the reason may be that their conference is more competitive, but even so, I would've liked to see SC vs USC, SC vs UCLA, etc. They're both capable of better teams like that.
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First: Rutgers was not a game. It was an exhibition. Who did UConn play in their exhibition? A non D-1. And what was up with that Canadian non-D-II team ya'll played. (I get it. Aliyah homecoming).
Second, You imply Net 51 South Dakota State is a cupcake? Who are they compared to NET 245 Dayton? NET 133 Butler? NET 70 Ball State? Yes, Morgan State is a cupcake, but Dawn is committed to playing a HBCU every year, That's why Dawn plays them. Clemson? Should we not play our biggest rival in all sports? The one we have been playing for well over 100 years in everything? Bowling Green at their place as a favor to a former Dawn assistant in his first gig as a head coach.
Third, "she had Duke, Notre Dame and an injured UConn." Was UConn injured when this game was scheduled? Was (you might also ask) Maryland unranked when they were scheduled? Did you forget forget Utah? UCLA and Stanford were contracted to play us last year but it was renegotiated due to turmoil from the PAC collapse. Yes, we renew with UCLA this year. U$C ducked us on opening night next year in their Vegas backyard.
You might want to go back and look at our SOS for the past five years. You will see that it exceeded that of UConn in several years and was seldom out of the top five. Look at Massey. Our 2023-2024 final RPI SOS was ranked #2. UConn was #3
Yes, Geno always schedules tough OOC and I salute him for it. That's why we play each other every other year. Dawn also schedules tough though it's a bit tougher for a newcomer powerhouse than the legendary program. Teams aren't enamored of playing us .
In the end, we played ten games against year end ranked opponents last year including 2, 3 and 4.
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Yeah, SC and LSU really didn't have a great OOC. Dawn was playing teams way under her talent last season (Come on, Rutgers? SD state? Clemson? Miss. Valley State? Morgan State? Why are you playing these people, Dawn?) I'm not against Dawn or anything but she is capable of a much better schedule than this. Sure, she had Duke and ND, and an injured UCONN, but other than that, not much else. And then of course nothing needs to be said about Mulkey. She may as well have been beating up DII talent.
Out of all three of the coaches, Geno has probably had the best quality wins. His OOC is always stacked. Just last season we had NC State, Texas, UCLA, ND, and SC. Granted we lost, but that's what his OOC always looks like. We're scheduled for USC next season as well.
Part of the reason may be that their conference is more competitive, but even so, I would've liked to see SC vs USC, SC vs UCLA, etc. They're both capable of better teams like that.
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First: Rutgers was not a game. It was an exhibition. Who did UConn play in their exhibition? A non D-1. And what was up with that Canadian non-D-II team ya'll played. (I get it. Aliyah homecoming).
Second, You imply Net 51 South Dakota State is a cupcake? Who are they compared to NET 245 Dayton? NET 133 Butler? NET 70 Ball State? Yes, Morgan State is a cupcake, but Dawn is committed to playing a HBCU every year, That's why Dawn plays them. Clemson? Should we not play our biggest rival in all sports? The one we have been playing for well over 100 years in everything? Bowling Green at their place as a favor to a former Dawn assistant in his first gig as a head coach.
Third, "she had Duke, Notre Dame and an injured UConn." Was UConn injured when this game was scheduled? Was (you might also ask) Maryland unranked when they were scheduled? Did you forget forget Utah? UCLA and Stanford were contracted to play us last year but it was renegotiated due to turmoil from the PAC collapse. Yes, we renew with UCLA this year. U$C ducked us on opening night next year in their Vegas backyard.
You might want to go back and look at our SOS for the past five years. You will see that it exceeded that of UConn in several years and was seldom out of the top five. Look at Massey. Our 2023-2024 final RPI SOS was ranked #2. UConn was #3
Yes, Geno always schedules tough OOC and I salute him for it. That's why we play each other every other year. Dawn also schedules tough though it's a bit tougher for a newcomer powerhouse than the legendary program. Teams aren't enamored of playing us .
In the end, we played ten games against year end ranked opponents last year including 2, 3 and 4.
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"Geno seeks out a challenge! Like (preseason unranked) NC State! Unlike Dawn Staley, playing (preseason #14) Maryland and (preseason #16) North Carolina!"
Every school has delusion fans not worth your time. On a UConn board, it's to be expected you will see a few Huskies like this.
Despite those two falling short of consensus expectations, I think we still had more regular season OOC wins over the final top 25 than the entire Big Ten. Kind of hard to get a top 30 opponent every night when there are so many other coaches scheduling like Small Town High, padding their record with tomato cans instead of seeking a challenge.
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Agreed. But I will always appreciate a good clap back, especially when it's substantiated with facts.
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UConn also played Maryland.
We don't need to throw stones at Geno. He schedules tough OOC games. But so do we. That's why we play each other!
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This burns me up. Boston seems like the nicest and most pleasant play in women's basketball. For those monday flounders to hound her is disgusting but sadly part of the times we live in.
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Somebody splain this please.
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In the spirit of Gamecock-Husky rivalry, let me say
- Dawn doesn’t need to recruit Dauda and I can’t see her adding much
- SC is the clear preseason #1, and not because winning the NC earns it or any such baloney. SC is #1 because of being the best team on paper. I don’t think there’s any question.
- It’s an open question who should be #2. USCw? ND? UConn? Texas? NC St?
- This will be a very interesting season. I can hardly wait.
- My early predictions: SC sweeps the SEC. Tessa gets a lot more minutes. Joyce is a starter by mid season.
1. SC
2. Texas
3. ND
4. UCONN
5. USC
Dauda was a leading shot blocker in the SEC. With the departure of Cardoso, she would honestly be a decent pickup. Averaged 10-12 points, 6-7 rebounds, and 2.2 blocks. Though who know how much time she gets if she's behind Tac, Kitts, Feagin, Walker, and Edwards.
Here's a comparison of UCONN to SC's OOC last season, and the ranks they stand at currently.
Non ranked-teams SC played OOC
Clemson (#90)
SDSU (#51)
Miss. Valley State (#347)
Morgan State (#326)
Presbyterian (#294)
Bowling Green (#182)
East Carolina (#116)
Duke (#20)
Ranked teams SC played OOC
ND (#8)
UCONN (#2)
Utah (#12)
Maryland (#32)
UNC (#36)
Non ranked teams UCONN played OOC
NC State (Now #11)
Dayton (#244)
Minnesota (#67)
Ball State (#81)
Toronto: This one is weird to include. According to the NCAA, they did not affect the committee's thoughts on SOS/did not affect the win-loss record. But I'll do it anyway.
Ranked teams UCONN played OOC
Maryland (#32)
UNC (#36)
Texas (#3)
UCLA (#6)
ND (#8)
SC (#1)
Louisville (#24)
Non ranked teams: SC had more, 8-5
Ranked-UCONN had more, 7-5
Out of SC's 8 non ranked teams, 3 are top 100, only 1 is top 25. Rest are 100 and below, down to nearly 350.
Out of UCONN's 5 non ranked teams, 3 are top 100, only 1 is top 25. 1 is 200.
Out of SC's ranked teams, 3 are top 25, 2 are 30 and below, down to 36.
Out of UCONN's ranked teams, 5 are top 25, 2 are 30 and below, down to 36. 1 team was not recognized as a game that counted towards our SOS or win-loss record. But it's safe to say they were D2/maybe extremely low D1 caliber.
Conclusion: We had a very similar ranked OOC schedule, but non-ranked wise, there's a clear difference.
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I see you're using NCAA.org's official NET rankings - Stanford (#5 NET ranking per NCAA.org) dropped out of their home-and-home agreement with South Carolina prior to the season. That would have risen the Gamecocks' OOC NET ranking a bit. Dawn Staley has stated before that other top programs have refused to schedule regular-season games with the Gamecocks, although beyond Stanford who's agreement with USC was already a matter of public record - the other programs wouldn't drop the Gamecocks in mid-series agreement, they just would avoid agreeing to start up one.
But if we're going to cherry-pick the NCAA NET rankings in order to make some declarative statement regarding the strength of schedules that USC and Connecticut play, then lets look at the entirety:
Since NCAA.org began compiling NET rankings for WCBB, CT has typically scheduled the best OOC schedules, while South Carolina has scheduled in the top 10 in that area:
OOC NET Rankings:
19-20: SC - 3rd, CT - 4th (this actually may have been the last year that NCAA.org based their rankings on RPI) (Louisville, Gonzaga)
20-21: SC - 9th, CT - 5th (Butler, Tulsa, Eastern KY, Lehigh - remember this season was all kinds of screwed up due to Covid)
21-22: SC - 2nd, CT - 1st
22-23: SC - 10th, CT - 1st
23-24: SC - 4th, CT - 1st
However, when one wishes to remark "I'm not against Dawn or anything but she is capable of a much better schedule than this" - not to say that regularly scheduling top-10 NET OOC schedules is anything to poo-poo at under any circumstance, we must remember that the OOC schedule is NOT the entire season's schedule for these programs:
Overall NET Rankings:
19-20: SC - 1st, CT - 4th
20-21: SC - 5th, CT - 2nd (Stanford)
21-22: SC - 1st, CT - 4th
22-23: SC - 1st, CT - 3rd
23-24: SC - 1st, CT - 3rd
If the overall schedule NET rankings are consistently #1, what degree of significance is there to whatever lack of NET ranking for a lesser portion of said schedule?
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If Dawn wanted a banger inside, why did she not go after Beers?
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I wanted Beers to go to UCONN. I thought with her transfer, she is the missing link for Geno. If he had a banger inside you guy's would've been much tougher to beat this past year.
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Taking Beers would be a slap in the face to Watkins/Feagin/Kitts IMO, as all 3 paid their dues and are primed to get big minutes next year. Dauda is a backup if she picks South Carolina and likely is 5th on the post player depth chart after those 3 and Edwards. Beers was going to start wherever she ended up and would've sent one of those 3 down on the depth chart if she went to South Carolina.
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She was originally committed to Baylor out of HS but reopened her recruitment once Kim left for LSU.
Dauda's solid and would fit in well as a backup post. Can't hurt to have too much depth and I think she'd improve her draft stock playing at SC where there's more emphasis on player development and post play than at Arkansas. The problem is, she likely would be a career backup at South Carolina. She's the same class as Watkins/Kitts and isn't going to beat either out in the next 2 years unless they get injured, and even then she's competing against 6-5 Tac and #3 recruit Joyce Edwards. SC offers an unparalleled combination of NIL opportunities, chances to win titles and top level coaching though so picking SC could pay off in the long run for Dauda even if it means she sacrifices individual success in the meantime.
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And that's ok if she delivers!!! National Championships are the name of the game. I thought Beers would fare much better at UCONN, but who knows?
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She's great but adding in a player of her caliber to a team that doesn't need her (South Carolina) would've significantly altered team chemistry IMO. Beers at UCONN I saw as a very good fit, though it would've created a logjam in the post assuming everyone is healthy (which is a BIG if considering UCONN's health the last 3 years). That said, she would've been a notable upgrade over anyone they have coming back.
OU is also a really good fit for her though. She'll likely be a star there and will compete against some of the best bigs in the nation playing in the SEC. Title chances will be reduced compared to South Carolina or UCONN, but she'll have an opportunity to help grow the fan base in Oklahoma and take the program to heights they haven't been to in 15 years.
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1/ Beers was a ‘do not contact’ . Considering her final two, she had no interest in a SC. Also as discussed at that time ad nauseam on the SC boards, despite her talent, she would not have been a good roster fit for the type of transition O & tough man to man switching D we play.
2/ also curious as to why are u addressing UConn fans in the SC general board thread & at the same time dredging up dead & buried speculative Reagan Beers transfer talk?
Let it Go .
Back to Dauda. While I’m surprised she has SC in her top 2 considering our current front court players/soon arrival of JE, I’ll gladly welcome her addition to further bolster the roster. Personally, I believe she will pick Baylor (home proximity, original recruitment factor). However, if she decides SC, as long as she practices & plays her role under the expectations that CDS surely laid out for her on her visit, she’s a definite take . Adding an athletic 6-4 post presence w/ SEC starting experience for added depth…Yes, please .
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Maybe Dawn pitched her on the Amihere role.
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i think she's talented enough to start at SCar personally.
I agree, and I’m not sure she’d start at Baylor either given Vonleh’s commitment.
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