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IMHO Gabby is the best all around player in the country.

"Gabby Williams is an actual superhero who can leap tall women in a single bound."

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Quantitatively (statistically) Collier is better, however, including qualitative intangibles Williams is the best player. Collier is the 2nd best . They are the 1st and 2nd best UCONN and national players.
 
Not sure this.
If you put Gabby in Washington and Kelsey in UConn, do you think Gabby can score much more points than Kelsey? Answer is definitely yes. But Kelsey cannot get as many rebs, asts and blocks as Gabby.

Geno's system will not let a single player scoring 30 or 40+ points. Basketball is a team work, not a single person's show.

I dont think Gabby would score more points on Washington than Kelsey Plum. She would have to make up 500 points right now to pass her. Gabby would have to make up 400 points to catch Osahor.

Here are Gabby's stats along with Plum and Osahors. These are for the full season, to date.

Gabby
327 points
13.1 ppg
1 three point basket
215 rebounds
8.6 rpg
133 assists
70 turn overs

Plum
823 points
30.5 ppg
90 three point baskets
140 rebounds
5.2 rpg
136 assists
66 turnovers

Osahor
727 points
15.6 ppg
36 three point baskets
394 rebounds - leads the nation
15.2 rpg
106 assists
59 turnovers.

I still love Gabby but Plums overall numbers are hands down better. Plums worst scoring game is 22 this season.
 
My two cents ...
Great responses. I'm biased and think Gabby, on the biggest and most analyzed stage, has had the most impact in the biggest games this season. Kelsey Plum is a great scorer and Senior. This reminds me of Kemba Walker vs Jimmer Fredette for NPOY in the men's game. Most "experts" thought Kemba was the reason UCONN went on to win the NCAA championship and had a better all around game but Jimmer was named NPOY. Walker is a NBA star and Fredette is playing in Wherever. Thing is Kemba wouldn't have traded his team championship for NPOY and neither would Gabby. We know who the best player is and so does Gabby.
 
I dont think Gabby would score more points on Washington than Kelsey Plum. She would have to make up 500 points right now to pass her. Gabby would have to make up 400 points to catch Osahor.

I still love Gabby but Plums overall numbers are hands down better. Plums worst scoring game is 22 this season.
I mean Gabby would score more points on Washington than Kelsey Plum on Uconn ...

We cannot compare Gabby in UConn to Kelsey in Washington because different system , schedules and opponents.
 
I would love to Gabby as NPOY but that is not going to happen. Plum will probably take it in a walk off.

As to AA, Gabby should be on one of the 10 member squads. Her all a round game is superior to many others. She is certainly better than Turner of ND and Coates of SC. Show me another post/ forward who has Gabby's stats and complete game.

I think our two first team AA's this year will be Gabby and Lou.
I think you nailed this assessment!
 
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What Eric said is correct.
In the 9 games vs the ranked teams I mentioned Gabby had these scoring numbers
FSU - 7
Baylor - 14
Texas - 11
Notre Dame - 19
OSU - 7
Maryland - 16
S. Car. - 26
DePaul - 2
USF - 11

By the way, Plum has faced 5 ranked teams this year and has scored 22, 22, 39, 34, and 44
Now correlate Gabby's ppg to winning margin. It would seem she scores more in the closer games. Perhaps she should score less so UConn can win by more.

This focus on ppg when it comes to NPOY is nonsense. Who thinks Odyssey Sims was better than Stewie?
 
Not sure this.
If you put Gabby in Washington and Kelsey in UConn, do you think Gabby can score much more points than Kelsey? Answer is definitely yes.

But let's not get carried away. Gabby is not yet the knockdown jump shooter that puts up high point totals. Then again, that's not her game.
 
IMHO Gabby is the best all around player in the country.
I really love how Gabby has evolved since the end of last season. She obviously always had great athletic ability but her skill level has really shot off the charts. She has almost completely eliminated all the weaknesses in her game, shooting being one of the most glaring, and she doesn't ever seem to slow down at any point in the game. I still think that with many people on the Boneyard, the next thing I'm prepared to hear them say is "Breanna WHO?" and coronate her at the GOAT! She's playing great and I love her impact on this team but come on!!!!! Some of the superlatives being thrown out are a bit much. She had little impact her first year and though we saw good improvements and more minutes from her last year, she seldom was the player anyone was talking about except for maybe a rare moment when her amazing athleticism WOWED us. Now to hear talk of her, you'd think she was a combination of Maya and a few other of our greatest players. She deserves recognition (LOTS) but the reason she can capture our attention and be so effective is that there's KLS and Napheesa and others drawing attention because of their high skill levels. I think we ought to SLOW DOWN the Gabby train just a bit though I'm really amazed at the work she's done on her game to be playing the way she is right now. I guess all I'm saying is "be real" and hold off on the anointment, for now.
 
Plum is their scoring option, Uconn has many. And As good a player as Plum is she doesn't play the same top competition that Uconn plays. These Sports writers must take all this into consideration.
Gabby has taken over a couple of key games this year but hasn't Napheesa done so, as well? Hasn't KLS been the dagger in a couple key wins for this team? There is a dispute by more than a few people as to who is the best player on THIS TEAM and yet, you think she should be THE player of the YEAR over everyone, including players on teams who you probably haven't even seen play. I get that you like her and she's been playing amazingly. She's a much more athletic version of Kelly Faris who so many people here loved for her high energy and her well rounded game, so what's not to love but as has been mentioned, she's had great teammates who have drawn attention from defenders that have allowed Gabby to do some of the things she has done. How can you key on Gabby when you have Napheesa and KLS and Kia and a much more confident Saniya, along with a very skilled though still evolving Crystal. Who do you think is the focus of defenses when Washington is playing, besides Plum??? I think she probably has some adequate teammates but who would you focus on as the coach of an opposing team???? How can you strictly focus on Gabby when there's so much other talent on this team????
 
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I really love how Gabby has evolved since the end of last season. She obviously always had great athletic ability but her skill level has really shot off the charts. She has almost completely eliminated all the weaknesses in her game, shooting being one of the most glaring, and she doesn't ever seem to slow down at any point in the game. I still think that with many people on the Boneyard, the next thing I'm prepared to hear them say is "Breanna WHO?" and coronate her at the GOAT! She's playing great and I love her impact on this team but come on!!!!! Some of the superlatives being thrown out are a bit much. She had little impact her first year and though we saw good improvements and more minutes from her last year, she seldom was the player anyone was talking about except for maybe a rare moment when her amazing athleticism WOWED us. Now to hear talk of her, you'd think she was a combination of Maya and a few other of our greatest players. She deserves recognition (LOTS) but the reason she can capture our attention and be so effective is that there's KLS and Napheesa and others drawing attention because of their high skill levels. I think we ought to SLOW DOWN the Gabby train just a bit though I'm really amazed at the work she's done on her game to be playing the way she is right now. I guess all I'm saying is "be real" and hold off on the anointment, for now.
The Gabby Train is leaving the station! Better jump on board now. Chooooooo choooooooo!
 
Buzzyboy, I have seen Kelsey Plum play. She is an elite talent. However, when you have a 5'11" post player who outperforms not one but two Twin Towers in every facet of the game, and who has on occasion been called on to cover the other teams best guard, then you have the NPOY. Gabby does it all in every category. Kelsey is no match for Gabby on the defensive end. She doesn't have that skill level. Before you mention offensive skill, remember Gabby leads UConn in assists. She also knows how to set a screen.
 
Now correlate Gabby's ppg to winning margin. It would seem she scores more in the closer games. Perhaps she should score less so UConn can win by more.

This focus on ppg when it comes to NPOY is nonsense. Who thinks Odyssey Sims was better than Stewie?
Now contemplate who you think the opposing coaches in those "closer games" were forcused on stopping when the game began and figure out how at the end of those games, the advantage to score goes to the most athletic player because you need to press and make stops. How many late game points has Gabby scored, as a result of that type effort. Numbers can be distorted, in a number of ways and though I know in this South Carolina game, Gabby was awesome from start to finish, I feel that in a couple of the other "close games" she got easy buckets late due to the focus on KLS and Napheesa that padded her score sheet. Gabby is great but as I said earlier, there is a big question on this board whether she's the best player on THIS TEAM. Her game is wonderfully well rounded because of her athleticism and her high energy levels and the improvement in her skills but how often is Gabby THE FOCUS of the opposing teams when they play the Huskies?
 
I don't think Gabby even wins Conference POY, Lou does.
Good point as to who you might pick on just this team. Would you march in the streets if KLS was Conference POY? If Napheesa was? If Gabby was? I would say NO! All three have played marvelously and Kia has been pretty darned good, as well, though not THAT GOOD!
 
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Buzzyboy, I have seen Kelsey Plum play. She is an elite talent. However, when you have a 5'11" post player who outperforms not one but two Twin Towers in every facet of the game, and who has on occasion been called on to cover the other teams best guard, then you have the NPOY. Gabby does it all in every category. Kelsey is no match for Gabby on the defensive end. She doesn't have that skill level. Before you mention offensive skill, remember Gabby leads UConn in assists. She also knows how to set a screen.
As I said, voters see highlights and stats and get a sense of the supporting cast on some of these teams. At first glance, who do you think has a better supporting cast and who do you think has a bigger responsibility (Role) to their team's success? Plum does and I don't think it's even close, do you? If you took Gabby and Plum and switched them, how much success would they have on their new teams? Gabby would be absolutely the focus of everyone they played and be doubled up, all the time. If you don't think it's easier to be successful playing on the Huskies, with the starting lineup Gabby plays with, than we obviously see things much differently.
 
Wrong.
Not sure this.
If you put Gabby in Washington and Kelsey in UConn, do you think Gabby can score much more points than Kelsey? Answer is definitely yes. But Kelsey cannot get as many rebs, asts and blocks as Gabby.

Geno's system will not let a single player scoring 30 or 40+ points. Basketball is a team work, not a single person's show.

Please folks, let's give other players credit and get out of the UConn bubble. Gabby scores over 20 for first time and now we say her offense is as good as one of the most dangerous scorers of ALL_TIME??? First team AA yes, NDPOY yes, overall POY I would say in conversation. Ability to score like Plum (or Lou) not close. Coach left her in to get triple double, if he left Lou in a couple of those games she would have 40+. Gabby is great, exciting, etc... But let's leave her some part of her game to improve on.
 
Buzzyboy, I have seen Kelsey Plum play. She is an elite talent. However, when you have a 5'11" post player who outperforms not one but two Twin Towers in every facet of the game, and who has on occasion been called on to cover the other teams best guard, then you have the NPOY. Gabby does it all in every category. Kelsey is no match for Gabby on the defensive end. She doesn't have that skill level. Before you mention offensive skill, remember Gabby leads UConn in assists. She also knows how to set a screen.

Okay folks, Gabby is not guarding the bigs one on one for the most part. It's team defense. On our offense it's easier to get assists with the talent the ball is thrown to as well. How can Lou get an assist to Gabby if she passes her the ball on a 18 ft jumper? Also Lou's game allows her to shoot\score more because she can. Lastly, scoring does count especially if it's by over 15pts a game. Its hard to score a lot of points even if you obviously take more shoots. Gabby's best two games of her career are 19 and 26. That said, this last game really stood out on how impactful she is... I was in awe at times. I also would not argue if she did win POY, but I also don't act like others are not deserving.
 
I will preface this by saying Gabby is my favorite player in the history of basketball.
Been that for over 2 years. Hell, when I think about it, she may be my favorite athlete of ALL TIME! I bid a substantial amount trying to get her jersey yesterday. Didn't happen.

That said, here we go.
First, I LOVE the passion of the BY for this team! Trying to figure out who is the best on the team is a great conundrum to have.
I would, of course, be lying if I said I didn't want Gabby to win NPOY.
I truly believe Plum will win it. Is she deserving? Absolutely.

Second, who is the most valuable Husky?
Answer: GabPheesaLoUConn
That covers everyone, right? :)

I do love reading all the posts in this thread.
Man, we are so blessed as fans to have a team this GREAT!

Conversations I hear at work... "my (blank) is the greatest team in football", etc..
I wait for a pause and say: "Get back to me when they win 100 straight."

Lastly, I'll just leave you all a little something to carry on the discussion:

 
Wrong.

Please folks, let's give other players credit and get out of the UConn bubble. Gabby scores over 20 for first time and now we say her offense is as good as one of the most dangerous scorers of ALL_TIME??? First team AA yes, NDPOY yes, overall POY I would say in conversation. Ability to score like Plum (or Lou) not close. Coach left her in to get triple double, if he left Lou in a couple of those games she would have 40+. Gabby is great, exciting, etc.. But let's leave her some part of her game to improve on.
I never said Gabby's offense is better than Plum.
I said if switch Gabby to Washington and Plum to UConn, Gabby will score more points than Plum.

Please read the complete post first.
 
I'm a little disgusted that Gabby is good enough for praises from the coaches, and the media but, when we the fans do it were told to chill out or that we're basically hyping her up. From the opening tip last year posters here said she wouldn't start, but she did had a decent 1st game, yes she was moved to the bench due to team needs, but never the less she proved some of you all wrong. Same thing this year, people had her coming off the bench for Nat because of her lack of size, and once again she proved people here wrong. As I've said before other then being versatile scorers, what makes Lou and Pheesa so much better then Gabby? Gabby had a career high in points and both shot attempts Monday night, taking 19 shots. Shes willing to do whatever the team needs, but if she was taking a majority of the shot attempts no telling what her numbers might be.
 
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ericsandiego, how about Gabby's explosion on the boards, on shut-down D, on assists, on steals, and on grit. You just want to look at offensive numbers. As everyone know, UConn's D is what fuels their teams. It wasn't UConn's offense that won Monday's game, it was the defense. Gabby was the fuel that fed the fire that burned SC down.
 
ricky, Lou was not in what game and they pulled it off? She's played in all UConn's games.
 
I would just love to see a showdown between UCONN and Washington in the tournament. Unfortunately I don't think it can happen. I don't pretend to know a thing about brackets but I doubt that the two could meet before the final four. And I think it's unlikely that Washington will get that far.
 
While I agree that Gabby should be in consideration, unfortunately we don't get to vote. I do see her making an all american team though... Look at Morgan two years ago, she didn't make all american, though she clearly deserved it.
 
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