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Dooley said:
Agreed. The football scheduling component makes it MUCH better. ND used to play occasional games against Big East teams - Pitt most frequently. But had the Big East had the same football scheduling arrangement as the ACC, it would have probably boosted the football profile...even though you could make a convincing argument that the old Big East was a better, or as good of a, conference as the ACC at that time.
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Whether the arrangement between ND and the ACC is better than the arrangement between ND and the Old Big East is irrelevant. The name of the game is money and Notre Dame's independence in football and their contract with NBC is not of great benefit to the ACC.
 
Every day that goes by without a statement from OK to calm the waters makes the idea that something might be happening more and more likely.
 
Is there any good info on the Northwestern/NLRB situation? It seems to me unlikely that massive conference changes would occur until this matter is settled or has a probable outcome. The P5 may start hemorrhaging private schools if the ruling stands.
 
Small schools everywhere finance their sports teams from the general fund, so I think many of those private schools will try to may a go of it to stay in the P5; whatever the cost might be.
 
You're probably right. I saw an analysis a while back that indicated that Miami, among others, would have a real tough time of it.
 
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Seaa Blue said:
Every day that goes by without a statement from OK to calm the waters makes the idea that something might be happening more and more likely.
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And also empowers our friend from WV to delve a bit deeper into his moonshine each day resulting in such revelations that the folks in Morgantown have just as much as and power as the folks in Norman and Austin have when it comes to the future of the XII.
 
The BiG would rather take Oklahoma and Oklahoma State than any combination of us.
 
Say what you will about Mantai Te'o, at least he never beat up his fake girlfriend. So I guess in that respect, ND's relationship with the ACC is beneficial.
 
If OU is going anyplace, its the PAC or the SEC.

And I would not be surprised if they did leave the Big12. They have been under Texas' thumb for too long.
 
OU yes. OSU no way. The only way the B1G would take OSU would be because all avenues to get OU on its own were completely and thoroughly exhausted. OSU academics are absolutely horrendous and would not fit in whatsoever with B1G schools. I can potentially see a lax in the AAU requirement to add the right school. But there is no way in hell that I can see the B1G giving a lax in the "good academic" requirement, like the ACC did when they invited LCC.
 
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Cleanface said:
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Fit in Iowa State and Houston/Rice and you're good to go.
 
Will the talking heads on ESPN weigh in this A.M. Dari Nokah is an OU alum & Mel Kiper is a college football junkie-know-it-all. Will they discuss the smoke on the horizon or will the mothership keep them muzzled?
 
CAHUSKY said:
There is simply no way on earth the Big10 takes OK and OKST. No way.
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Stinger92860 said:
WHY?
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If the B1G was serious about getting New York exposure / New England exposure they would have taken us over Rutgers. We draw less than 15,000 a game for football and that's the only thing that matters. Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, albeit in much smaller markets will win out with football.
 
CTBasketball said:
If the B1G was serious about getting New York exposure / New England exposure they would have taken us over Rutgers. We draw less than 15,000 a game for football and that's the only thing that matters. Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, albeit in much smaller markets will win out with football.
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At this point the SEC pretty much only cares about football, but the BIG cares about many different aspects of what a school brings. The SEC possibly could take both because it would enhance football, but the BIG wouldn't because football is only part of their criteria.
 
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CTBasketball said:
If the B1G was serious about getting New York exposure / New England exposure they would have taken us over Rutgers. We draw less than 15,000 a game for football and that's the only thing that matters. Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, albeit in much smaller markets will win out with football.
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Rutgers and UConn equally bring market exposure, Rutgers just comes with better recruiting and 500 million a year in federal research grants.
 
Sportsman5 said:
At this point the SEC pretty much only cares about football, but the BIG cares about many different aspects of what a school brings. The SEC possibly could take both because it would enhance football, but the BIG wouldn't because football is only part of their criteria.
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Money talks.
 
CTBasketball said:
Money talks.
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Exactly. The market size is where most of the money comes from for the big10 due to how their conference network is set up. Hence Maryland and Rutgers getting invited. That is why adding two schools from the same state makes no sense
 
Connecticut with 3.6M residents has a really high percentage of residents that follow UConn. Nebraska likely leads this category, but data suggests that as many as 35%-40% of Connecticut residents follow UConn. That's 1.4M viewers. Rutgers comes from a state with nearly 9M residents, but I would be surprised if more than 5% of its residents follow them. That's 450K fans. Even at 10% it's 900K. Of course, NJ has a greater number B1G alumni; (although CT does OK here), recruiting, research and AAU, and that whole carriage thing (which is somewhat fan agnostic), so it's not a surprise that Rutgers got an invite. In the end, and without bringing up Boston/New England/New York, Connecticut adds value to a conference that has its own network.
 
CTBasketball said:
If the B1G was serious about getting New York exposure / New England exposure they would have taken us over Rutgers. We draw less than 15,000 a game for football and that's the only thing that matters. Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, albeit in much smaller markets will win out with football.
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You're extremely uneducated about this subject.
 
Dooley said:
OU yes. OSU no way. The only way the B1G would take OSU would be because all avenues to get OU on its own were completely and thoroughly exhausted. OSU academics are absolutely horrendous and would not fit in whatsoever with B1G schools. I can potentially see a lax in the AAU requirement to add the right school. But there is no way in hell that I can see the B1G giving a lax in the "good academic" requirement, like the ACC did when they invited LCC.
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The Oklahoma to the Big Ten stuff seems like wishful thinking.

1) Small state/market.
2) Politically encumbered by OSU.
3) Dreadful academics.
4) GOR
5) It's not east.

I don't see it - Oklahoma's not Nebraska.
 
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The earth will shake if B1G takes both OU and OSU. A bundle with Texas however has many possibilities, but not with OSU or KSU.
 
Fishy said:
The Oklahoma to the Big Ten stuff seems like wishful thinking.

1) Small state/market.
2) Politically encumbered by OSU.
3) Dreadful academics.
4) GOR
5) It's not east.

I don't see it - Oklahoma's not Nebraska.
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Oklahoma's better than Nebraska ... but I agree, I think the B1G would take Kansas & UConn and let Oklahoma go elsewhere.
 
If the Big Ten is unable to lure UVA or UNC, especially amid the talk of the potential demise of the B12, and the goal is to go to 18, it's possible you could see Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas in the West and UConn in the East. That would be a formidable conference by any metric. I do find it unlikely that the B1G doubles up on a team from a single state. With Texas A&M firmly planted in the SEC that includes Texas.
 
itgoeslike said:
If the Big Ten is unable to lure UVA or UNC...
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Well, with all the talk about VIPs jetting in and out of Oklahoma a couple of days ago, I thought I'd check out flightaware just for kicks and giggles. Two days ago UIUC-Willard Airport (Champaign/Urbana/Savoy, IL) KCMI / CMI received a direct twin jet executive flight from Charlotteville-Albermarle Airport (CHO) [UVA]. Also, there is a Dassault Falcon 20 departing CMI tonight for Raleigh-Durham Intl (KRDU).
 
itgoeslike said:
Connecticut with 3.6M residents has a really high percentage of residents that follow UConn. Nebraska likely leads this category, but data suggests that as many as 35%-40% of Connecticut residents follow UConn. That's 1.4M viewers. Rutgers comes from a state with nearly 9M residents, but I would be surprised if more than 5% of its residents follow them. That's 450K fans. Even at 10% it's 900K. Of course, NJ has a greater number B1G alumni; (although CT does OK here), recruiting, research and AAU, and that whole carriage thing (which is somewhat fan agnostic), so it's not a surprise that Rutgers got an invite. In the end, and without bringing up Boston/New England/New York, Connecticut adds value to a conference that has its own network.
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I think analysis the for last go round was carriage fees. If so viewership is irrelevant. The metric is households with cable so RU was a better choice. The next way to monetize a conference is via advertiser revenue. UConn viewership percentages (ratings) has more value under that model as does Connecticut being relatively affluent.
 
pj said:
Oklahoma's better than Nebraska ... but I agree, I think the B1G would take Kansas & UConn and let Oklahoma go elsewhere.
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I'm not so sure FB wise but Nebbie though lower populated as a state seems more culturally attuned than Okie and has a slightly higher academics image IMO. Nebraska fans love the B1G association but Okies fan favor the SEC at least 2 to 1 in my forays onto LT's... on Okies CR board but Boren and the admins lean heavily to the B1G.
 
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