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I knew there was something damned peculiar about this thread. Over 200 posts, and nothing from TonyC, DoggyDaddy or Icebear! Now Tony has finally shown up, but where in the world are the other two usual suspects? It just ain't natural! I hope you guys are OK. Please check in.
Maybe they think (thougth in TC's case) that they had nothing to add to the exuberance on the board. Icebear also may have been out searching for unguarded picnic baskets in Jellystone Park.
 

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There are a few teams that have been successful the past year or two bringing in very good classes,and you never count out Notre Dame.

However,here is a thought of what those teams will not be able to do,and what Connecticut will be able to do.
The other teams,such as Notre Dame,will bring out a solid starting five,and rotate one or two solid players off the bench.
Connecticut,will have a solid starting five,then a fresh solid seven or eight players ready to go,and this will happen every game,throughout the season.
As the other team begins to tire in the game,Connecticut has fresh legs everywhere,and players eager to prove their worth.It will be a slaughter.

Tell you this. Geno will have a very hard time controlling blowouts,because his back end of the bench will be as good as most teams starters.

With all this talent,even those girls that struggle in the system a bit,will have the opportunity to hone their skills against top talent.

The hardest part of all this,may be the coaching staff figuring out the rotations for games.

They also may need more chairs for post game conferences,both for players and reporters,lol.
 
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Kibitzer said:
Today Mrs. Kibitzer and I observed our 35th wedding anniversary. And thanks, Katie Lou, for giving us something special to celebrate.:D



Just had my 34th last week... talk about "the land of steady habits"!!
You young whippersnappers are just getting started. We're looking at 48 soon.
 
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Boykin has my vote as the sleeper no one is really talking about having watched her play since 8th grade

Question-have you seen any of them play?

Live ? Only one, Collier, earlier this year.
 

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Okay, now I understand the events of this past weekend. The bear that I encountered Sunday morning was a visitor to give me the good news of what was about to happen. So now we know the news, unfortunately or fortunately, yesterday I was busy working at the polls all day here in Pennsylvania where it was our state primaries. I didn't have access to Wi-Fi or time to use my cell phone or anything else all day so I had no idea about any of the news but the signs were there. It was a visit of the prophet of the Great Bear.

Kib and Donna, Happy Anniversary! Anna and I celebrated 35 this year, too.
 
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Now all that's left for UConn is to add Durr and join the WNBA :) This is amazing and wonderful and will help to keep Geno around for a long long time!
Then they will be in an appropriate conference.
 
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Okay, now I understand the events of this past weekend the bear that I encountered Sunday morning was a visitor to give me the good news of what was about to happen. So now we know the news, unfortunately or fortunately, yesterday I was busy working at the polls all day here in Pennsylvania where it was our primaries. I didn't have access to Wi-Fi or time to use my cell phone or anything else all day so I had no idea about any of the news but the signs were there. It was a visit of the prophet of the Great Bear.

Kib and Donna, Happy Anniversary! Anna and I celebrated 35 this year, too.

Seems like 35 is the magic number! Happy anniversary to all of you.
 

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Collier- 6'1" right hand dominate, solid body,crafty scorer, good rebounder,can score,high energy, more of a slasher, has a evolving midrange shot, good defender, kind of a 3/4 tweener
needs to add 3pt range, post up, ball-handling, off hand, and offense moves to shed defender, continue to get better at all aspect of the game

Boykin- 6'2" right hand dominate, uses left well, long body, versatile, good scorer, good rebounder, good defender, good ball handling skills for her size, uses either hand, can score from anywhere, high energy, good midrange, good 3pt shooter, can score with either hand in traffic, can post up on either side, unselfish can play 1 thru 5
Needs to add move offensive moves to shed defenders, continue to get better at all aspect of the game



These are notes that I have jotted down in my books
I've seen Boykin a lot more than I've seen Collier
I saw DJB against a very overmatched Oxon Hill team. Hopefully I'll see you at a Flowers game next season.

I agree with what you wrote. I would add that she seems like a pretty good passer and easily throws a 50' outlet pass. Very athletic and fluid but somewhat raw. Will benefit from UConn coaching.
 
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Story by Carl Adamec: http://snyuconn.com/uconn/report-mater-deis-samuelson-selects-uconn/

“She’s very excited,” Samuelson’s father, Jon, said. “She and Coach Geno (Auriemma) built a great relationship and I think that she just really wanted to play for him.”

Katie Lou Samuelson chose UConn over Stanford (where her older sisters Bonnie and Karlie play), Notre Dame, UCLA, and Kentucky.

Mater Dei is also the alma mater of UConn All-American junior Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis.

“Katie Lou had a great visit at UConn this spring and just loved it,” Mater Dei coach Kevin Kiernan said. “She wants to be the best and she feels UConn and Coach Auriemma can help her achieve that. Awesome day for her and her family. We are all very happy for her here at Mater Dei!”


I guess when she said she had a great visit she meant.

The thing I like about the bolded section is there is no qualifier on "best." She doesn't want to be "one of the best" or "the best she can be." She wants to be the best. Period.

What's more, her desire isn't some idle dream as, by seeking out the most demanding program in the nation to pursue her goal, she's placed herself in the best position to achieve her ambition. That's focus; that's commitment.
 
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There are a few teams that have been successful the past year or two bringing in very good classes,and you never count out Notre Dame.

However,here is a thought of what those teams will not be able to do,and what Connecticut will be able to do.
The other teams,such as Notre Dame,will bring out a solid starting five,and rotate one or two solid players off the bench.
Connecticut,will have a solid starting five,then a fresh solid seven or eight players ready to go,and this will happen every game,throughout the season.
As the other team begins to tire in the game,Connecticut has fresh legs everywhere,and players eager to prove their worth.It will be a slaughter.

Tell you this. Geno will have a very hard time controlling blowouts,because his back end of the bench will be as good as most teams starters.

With all this talent,even those girls that struggle in the system a bit,will have the opportunity to hone their skills against top talent.

The hardest part of all this,may be the coaching staff figuring out the rotations for games.

They also may need more chairs for post game conferences,both for players and reporters,lol.
Maybe we can schedule ourselves as a non-conference game, like the ACC is considering for football.
 

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I was off -- travelling to Italy with my old Yale unit! -- and talking BBall all the way, and opened up email to THIS!!!!

It's all about the aesthetic of fabulously brilliant bball....not about individuals, but running the plays. Who wouldn't want to learn. The trash talk at NC time, really was great for UConn BB.
 
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Diamond at SC is sitting in her room right now realizing she missed the only bus in town worth riding. Bye Bye.
 
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There was a poster on he last summer- supposedly "in the know" that was Tony's friend. This isn't a bash on Tony. Instead - this poster said Geno has been losing out on the top recruits and needs to start forgetting about landing the real top super recruits because of the weak conference. All I got to say is that he relly nailed that one for one that was so much "in the know" how the recrutis were thinking. LOL.
 

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There was a poster on he last summer- supposedly "in the know" that was Tony's friend. This isn't a bash on Tony. Instead - this poster said Geno has been losing out on the top recruits and needs to start forgetting about landing the real top super recruits because of the weak conference. All I got to say is that he relly nailed that one for one that was so much "in the know" how the recrutis were thinking. LOL.

Majority of "in the know" posters don't know . That's the way of all message boards.
 

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I have always believed that most top players pick coaches. They don't pick schools, they don't pick conferences, they don't pick based on weather averages. They pick coaches.

Without question. I always laugh at people who try to make the argument that a kid commits "to the school not the coach".

If Geno and his staff left tomorrow, how many of those committed girls would still want to come to UCONN. The number would drop off real quick, even if UCONN managed to hire a good coach.
 
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I'll play devil's advocate.

For starters though, I am beyond excited to watch the next 5 years, and I hope no one reads this post as raining on anyone's parade. (ett, I know you're not celebrating, I had others in mind.). That said ...

Let's assume no Durr, no Cox. In that case I think we drop a notch after Stewie and MoJeff finish up. Still the best team in WCBB and favorites for NC. But not absolutely prohibitive favorites and less than 50% chance of going undefeated.

My rationale is that as good as these two recruiting classes are, we are likely to have fewer top 5 and top 10 players than we've had in our most dominant years. Now we may have eight or even nine of the top 50 players in 2016/17, and that's just nuts. But at the same time we might not have any in top 5 and maybe only one in top 10. Top 5/top 10 players are pretty important for absolute dominance, so the likes of USC and ND may have a chance.

Of course I would love to be proven wrong!


Love this post. Agree 100%. I further love the idea we are looking into 3 seasons away for a chink in our armor. Kia Nurse and Gabby Willaims are so key.
 
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Thats a fair analysis of her play. I will say one thing about all of the Samuelson girls is that they are always ready to get off a shot without waiting, thinking, moving. Ball in hands, ball out of hands, ball in basket.
I am astounded by how quickly she releases her shot. We presently have KML who's a phenomenal shooter at about 6' but how can you possibly defend someone like KLS who is 6'3" and gets her shot off "that quickly" and accurately. Amazing!
 
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I'll play devil's advocate.

For starters though, I am beyond excited to watch the next 5 years, and I hope no one reads this post as raining on anyone's parade. (ett, I know you're not celebrating, I had others in mind.). That said ...

Let's assume no Durr, no Cox. In that case I think we drop a notch after Stewie and MoJeff finish up. Still the best team in WCBB and favorites for NC. But not absolutely prohibitive favorites and less than 50% chance of going undefeated.

My rationale is that as good as these two recruiting classes are, we are likely to have fewer top 5 and top 10 players than we've had in our most dominant years. Now we may have eight or even nine of the top 50 players in 2016/17, and that's just nuts. But at the same time we might not have any in top 5 and maybe only one in top 10. Top 5/top 10 players are pretty important for absolute dominance, so the likes of USC and ND may have a chance.

Of course I would love to be proven wrong!
I'm actually inclined to think that the ONLY PLAYERS we'll be getting over the next couple of years is top 10 or top 5 players. They'd be the type who've shown through AAU play, etc. that they have a lot of talent and a lot of faith in their abilities. I'd like to think that they'd welcome the opportunity to compete for minutes on a talented team that is likely to compete for national championships. Maybe we'd struggle to get the good, solid players (in the top 25-50 range) that we've had that were wonderful practice players and would get appreciably less court time. The one thing that Geno would make those top tier players aware of is that nothing is promised and they'd have to work at it day in and day out in practice in order to get court time. That isn't anything different than he's done over the last almost 30 years in Storrs. Do you think someone like Maya or Stewie would be scared away from committing to UConn because they had a roster of talented players???? No, they would welcome the competition and the opportunity to EARN their way onto the court and play for national titles. That is exactly the type players we do want and that will continue to make us the center of women's college basketball.
 

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As long as Geno is coaching and UConn is winning the top kids will continue to come. Maybe not all of them and frankly we dont need all of them but we will have enough of them to continue to win. Do you understand as fans how ridiculous it is to say undefeated. UConn is the only team that continues to go undefeated and now it is expected. Do you also understand what it would take for UConn to not go undefeated? Seems almost impossible with our current roster but it can happen and it will more then likely not happen barring injuries and crazy foul trouble for at least the next 2 years. Banking on our next 2 classes it may not happen for another 5 years but could just based on the law of averages.

See the top kids with the right attitude and proper coaching want to play for UConn. UConn is special. UConn is the best. There is and has never been a dynasty like what Geno has created at UConn. The kids that commit want to be pushed, they want to get better. Its not about them scoring alot of points or being the focal point because once you get to college everybody is so good its not about you its about the team. Geno has mastered the team concept physically, mentally and individually. Kids who want to play for UConn understand that. Kids who want to be a big fish in a little pond dont understand that and thats fine. It is a privilege to have Geno come see you play and it is a privilege to have him offer you the opportunity to play for him because UConn isnt just a WCBB program. Its the best and there is only one number 1.

So when you look at our current roster and who has verballed in next years class and who has interest in UConn and who UConn has interest in in the following years classes all we need are a few because we already have enough.

I was reading a post from another board saying if we get DeShields and another guard and Durr we still cant compete with UConn...and imo their right, because its not about the players you get its about the players you get and have the coach who makes them what they become. The reason UConn believes they will always win is because they have been drilled with fundamentals repeatedly every day that it has become reflexive. Other teams dont look like UConn when they execute or when UConn puts pressure on them because UConn exposes their weaknesses and they dont know how to play off their weaknesses.

So fwiw . As long as Geno is coaching UConn some of the top kids will always come. There are not "IFs" about it. We may not go undefeated every year but we will come close. At this present time I believe with everything in me that UConn will not lose a NC while Breanna Stewart is there. I also believe with the verbals we just got that if those kids develop like everybody else has we may not lose a NC for the next 5 years. Either way imo we will be ranked number 1 in the next 5 years preseason polls and we will be of Geno and we will because we are UConn.
 
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As long as Geno is coaching and UConn is winning the top kids will continue to come. Maybe not all of them and frankly we dont need all of them but we will have enough of them to continue to win. Do you understand as fans how ridiculous it is to say undefeated. UConn is the only team that continues to go undefeated and now it is expected. Do you also understand what it would take for UConn to not go undefeated? Seems almost impossible with our current roster but it can happen and it will more then likely not happen barring injuries and crazy foul trouble for at least the next 2 years. Banking on our next 2 classes it may not happen for another 5 years but could just based on the law of averages.

See the top kids with the right attitude and proper coaching want to play for UConn. UConn is special. UConn is the best. There is and has never been a dynasty like what Geno has created at UConn. The kids that commit want to be pushed, they want to get better. Its not about them scoring alot of points or being the focal point because once you get to college everybody is so good its not about you its about the team. Geno has mastered the team concept physically, mentally and individually. Kids who want to play for UConn understand that. Kids who want to be a big fish in a little pond dont understand that and thats fine. It is a privilege to have Geno come see you play and it is a privilege to have him offer you the opportunity to play for him because UConn isnt just a WCBB program. Its the best and there is only one number 1.

So when you look at our current roster and who has verballed in next years class and who has interest in UConn and who UConn has interest in in the following years classes all we need are a few because we already have enough.

I was reading a post from another board saying if we get DeShields and another guard and Durr we still cant compete with UConn...and imo their right, because its not about the players you get its about the players you get and have the coach who makes them what they become. The reason UConn believes they will always win is because they have been drilled with fundamentals repeatedly every day that it has become reflexive. Other teams dont look like UConn when they execute or when UConn puts pressure on them because UConn exposes their weaknesses and they dont know how to play off their weaknesses.

So fwiw . As long as Geno is coaching UConn some of the top kids will always come. There are not "IFs" about it. We may not go undefeated every year but we will come close. At this present time I believe with everything in me that UConn will not lose a NC while Breanna Stewart is there. I also believe with the verbals we just got that if those kids develop like everybody else has we may not lose a NC for the next 5 years. Either way imo we will be ranked number 1 in the next 5 years preseason polls and we will be of Geno and we will because we are UConn.
Any recruit who saw the SNY Geno shows, and watched the one segment in practice, where Stewie was guarding one of the practice men on the perimeter. Geno had her do it 5 times, until she got it right, he wanted her to move her feet to be in position. That shows the Connecticut way, everyone has to get it right before you move on.
 

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There are realistic limitations to the number of top-tier players the roster can absorb and the size numerically of a winning/championship rotation.

Just my gut feeling, but I cannot imagine that Durr and Ogunbuwale will both go to the same, um, program. Same with Cox and McCoy. I just don't think UConn will get both of either pair.

OTOH, I also like our chances to get one of each aforementioned pair of similar players.
 
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There are realistic limitations to the number of top-tier players the roster can absorb and the size numerically of a winning/championship rotation.

Just my gut feeling, but I cannot imagine that Durr and Ogunbuwale will both go to the same, um, program. Same with Cox and McCoy. I just don't think UConn will get both of either pair.

OTOH, I also like our chances to get one of each aforementioned pair of similar players.

One of each pair wouldn't be bad at all!
 
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