For you MSGers: Video of Adams foul call and KO tech

[6NCsMORE2Go]

I don't like blaming officials for anything for fear of sounding like a homer with blinders on, but the officiating just wasn't consistent. Not consistent enough to warrant that ticky-tack foul. Case in point, Diamond Stone fouled Gibbs on that steal and lay-up. By definition, there was contact at the rim. Basket and 1. Also, Miller dunked all over their big man (name escapes me now) whose arms were all over Miller's face and arms. That's two free-throw opportunities in the middle of a huge run by UCONN. Just disappointing.

 

[Kembacity]

Who was the ref? That was a horrendous call, the kind of call that makes you question the integrity of the game.

Exactly, the timeliness of the call is what is suspicious to me. They routinely allowed MD to hit our guys driving to the hoop without a call, while we got numerous super soft foul calls, utter BS

 

[Kembacity]

I don't like blaming officials for anything for fear of sounding like a homer with blinders on, but the officiating just wasn't consistent. Not consistent enough to warrant that ticky-tack foul. Case in point, Diamond Stone fouled Gibbs on that steal and lay-up. By definition, there was contact at the rim. Basket and 1. Also, Miller dunked all over their big man (name escapes me now) whose arms were all over Miller's face and arms. That's two free-throw opportunities in the middle of a huge run by UCONN. Just disappointing.

Yeah I saw that too, there was also a play where Brimah was backing down Stone, and from the TV angle it really looked as though Stone was leaning over Brimah as he dribbled and leaned forward, so when brimah went up for the shot attempt and directly into Stone's arms and body, that is a foul that Brimah gets whistled on 12 times out of 10. It really felt to me that they were set on not calling any fouls on Stone. One of the first half "amazing drives" by Trimble they showed the slow mo replay and Stone is like spinning in circles picking guys during the drive, make a freaking call evenly

 

[Kembacity]

So....Ollie said in the post game that Jalen did commit a foul.

Right, he said that he did commit a foul but that the game wasn't called evenly. So basically he said that is a foul, but if you aren't going to call it on MD, you can't call that on us

 

[Kembacity]

I don't like blaming officials for anything for fear of sounding like a homer with blinders on, but the officiating just wasn't consistent. Not consistent enough to warrant that ticky-tack foul. Case in point, Diamond Stone fouled Gibbs on that steal and lay-up. By definition, there was contact at the rim. Basket and 1. Also, Miller dunked all over their big man (name escapes me now) whose arms were all over Miller's face and arms. That's two free-throw opportunities in the middle of a huge run by UCONN. Just disappointing.

Yup I remember that one too, Miller dropped it right down and you see the defenders arm just completely against Miller's face.. nice clean defense MD, nothing to see here

 

[AtlHusky]

Yup I remember that one too, Miller dropped it right down and you see the defenders arm just completely against Miller's face.. nice clean defense MD, nothing to see here

That nice clean 2nd half defense included numerous drives by DHam where he was bodied off his path and had to adjust his shot/pass. It wasn't just DHam, but he drove more than the others. We've all heard that this is a point of emphasis this year, but apparently not in this game with MD on D.

Of course, if they played a decent first half, the impact on the game decreases.

 

[Tenspro2002]

There is an ease that refs have in a bad way with Ollie that they didn't have with Calhoun and it doesn't help us

This is a really astute way to put it. The refs know that they don't have to worry about getting an earful if they make a bad call against us, so they don't think twice about swallowing the whistle when our guys drive into opposing bigs.

It's something I've noticed for the last 2-3 years -- our guards almost never get foul calls in their favor on drives to the rim. I thought it had to do with our guards being really undersized (Bazz, Boat), but it's continued this year even with more physical guys. Now I think it has a lot to do with Ollie putting up with it.

 

[Pudge]

He ran through the arm and then pushed it away. As soon as the arm impedes him, that's a foul under the freedom of movement rules 100/100. You can see Adams left arm sticking out perpendicular to Melo's body in his path in the vine in the OP. It's not much, but it's enough and it's a foul.

That was excellent defense on Adams part; as you are taught. Melo Trimble has no right to run through Adams for the position on the other side of the in-bounder. Trimble initiated the contact; Trimble used his left arm to change both their positions. That certainly is not a foul on Adams.

 

[Pudge]

This is a really astute way to put it. The refs know that they don't have to worry about getting an earful if they make a bad call against us, so they don't think twice about swallowing the whistle when our guys drive into opposing bigs.

It's something I've noticed for the last 2-3 years -- our guards almost never get foul calls in their favor on drives to the rim. I thought it had to do with our guards being really undersized (Bazz, Boat), but it's continued this year even with more physical guys. Now I think it has a lot to do with Ollie putting up with it.

I doubt it. This is way to "Inside Basketball" for the average ref to really perceive. Calhoun and Huggins, last night, are a different era. Refs still give them some run. But, that's not the way the Bennetts, Turgeons, etc are coming up. Ollie gets his say. It's just not the way we watched the last 30.

 

[jibsey]

I was wrong, just looked at the "foul" and basically Trimble pushed him off with the forearm, could've gone the other way but at best it's a no call. . KO was there and rightly was upset.

 

[bump376]

I was sitting on the baseline last night. I'm in the grey UCONN sweat shirt on the left edge of the picture. It looked to me like Trimble grabbed Jalen's jersey or arm and tried to pull himself around. Jalen also told the ref that trimble grabbed him. Looked like a terrible call to me. Still no excuse for Ollie to lose it though.

 

[Tdaley]

It was the worst call of this UConn basketball season. Teams now will be teaching their players to dribble close to the defender and push their arms out of the way to draw the foul call. I hate the new rule because it makes playing defense next to impossible. Arms are connected to our bodies and even when your playing good defense with your legs referees are going to see the defenders arms as impeding the offensive player as he drives past the defensive player. Maybe the defensive player has to put his arms behind his back not to get a foul call which course wouldn't help him do other require things on the court like stealing the basketball or blocking a shot or pass.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

Glen Miller has to get off his ass and calm Ollie down!

Like Chris Dailey has had to do repeatedly for Geno. Knowing Miller, he just isn't that type of person.

 

[upstater]

Right, he said that he did commit a foul but that the game wasn't called evenly. So basically he said that is a foul, but if you aren't going to call it on MD, you can't call that on us

This is a pretty good point that I hadn't considered. Gibbs was being knocked around on inbounds plays just before this call.

 

[Palatine]

Ollie said there was a foul. But he had he same angle as the ref. The ref had a horrible angle to make that call and make a horrible call.

 

[August_West]

This is a really astute way to put it. The refs know that they don't have to worry about getting an earful if they make a bad call against us, so they don't think twice about swallowing the whistle when our guys drive into opposing bigs.

It's something I've noticed for the last 2-3 years -- our guards almost never get foul calls in their favor on drives to the rim. I thought it had to do with our guards being really undersized (Bazz, Boat), but it's continued this year even with more physical guys. Now I think it has a lot to do with Ollie putting up with it.

It does, but in fairness KO for a second. JC is on the Mount Rushmore of Ref working along with K, Bobby Knight and maybe Boewhine. He outworked K in the Final Four twice and K is a damn fine ref worker. We got spoiled with the best ever.

 

[B1GEast]

IMO, as long as we're not in a p5 conference, at any neutral site, we won't get the calls, during the Baca tourney, it will be different, but dook, Maryland, kentucky, and most others will get the advantage with Ricky tack bull shiat like this.

 

[HooperScooper]

That was excellent defense on Adams part; as you are taught. Melo Trimble has no right to run through Adams for the position on the other side of the in-bounder. Trimble initiated the contact; Trimble used his left arm to change both their positions. That certainly is not a foul on Adams.

I'm with you on that. The call was right in front of us. If Adams doesn't throw up his arms after the contact then I bet there wouldn't have been a call at all. Trimble uses his arm to shed Adams and that's a foul on Adams? That's either an offensive foul or no call on incidental contact. Not sure why that's a foul on Adams.

 

[huskyharry]

Clearly looks like a push-0ff on Trimble....but he got rewarded with other similar calls at several other occasions (key foul on Amida comes to mind when Melo through his elbow into AB's chest and drew an and one)

 

[MexicoHusky]

Bad calls are made. Moving on

 

[intlzncster]

Like Chris Dailey has had to do repeatedly for Geno. Knowing Miller, he just isn't that type of person.

Ricky could get Ollie's ass back on the bench in a second. Come to think of it, they should have Ricky in the ref's ears all night. That would put the fear of god in them. And KO could do his Mr Rogers routine with no repercussions.

 

[auror]

That was excellent defense on Adams part; as you are taught. Melo Trimble has no right to run through Adams for the position on the other side of the in-bounder. Trimble initiated the contact; Trimble used his left arm to change both their positions. That certainly is not a foul on Adams.

I'm with you on that. The call was right in front of us. If Adams doesn't throw up his arms after the contact then I bet there wouldn't have been a call at all. Trimble uses his arm to shed Adams and that's a foul on Adams? That's either an offensive foul or no call on incidental contact. Not sure why that's a foul on Adams.

Melo can run past Adams, and he can run through Adams' extended perpendicular arms as they are not protected by verticality if they are extended forward. Which is what happened on that play, as he didn't run through any part of Adams' body. He "removed" Adams' hands from his path after his movement was impeded by Adams' arms (which is why some of you are calling for an offensive foul), but Adams' foul was first.