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doggydaddy said:
Why do you only talk about wins?

Tennessee lost to unranked LSU at home and unranked Vanderbilt.

Louisville had no bad losses.
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Who had a stronger SOS? Now if Louisville beats UConn which I do not think they will. Then I'd give it too them?
 
Blueballer said:
LSU, Okla & Colorado - All top 15 when played. And Tenn had a brutal Home Loss to LSU. Louisville has won their games at home exc. UCONN
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"when they played" carries little weight at the end of the year when they are ranked where they truly should be.
 
vowelguy said:
Who has Louisville beaten in the current top 20?
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They haven't played any except UCONN, Stan. & KY. What can you do the conference is the conference. But the key is no bad losses like Tenn.

And again - That wasn't the original question
 
vowelguy said:
Who has Louisville beaten in the current top 20?
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Answer: NOBODY

If Louisville gets a number 1 seed when they don't have a single win over a CURRENT top 20 team, that will be a travesty to the other teams that have wins over top 20 and top 10 teams.
 
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easttexastrash said:
"when they played" carries little weight at the end of the year when they are ranked where they truly should be.
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And AGAIN - That wasn't the original question, which was what made compose that response. You point is valid but I was only responsed to the STWAIN question.
 
For me, the question of the final number 1 seed is academic. Likewise, I don't
really care which regional we're sent to - we are going to win that regional and
go to the final four.

The only real test that I see is Notre Dame in the championship game.
 
Based on the arguments made here in the past few minutes STANFORD based on this years resume is a questionable #1 seed as well.
 
Blueballer said:
They haven't played any except UCONN, Stan. & KY
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There is what the committee should look at. If you have only one quality conference opponent then you have to have a quality OOC win.
 
ed4ourgirls said:
For me, the question of the final number 1 seed is academic. Likewise, I don't
really care which regional we're sent to - we are going to win that regional and
go to the final four.

The only real test that I see is Notre Dame in the championship game.
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True that!
 
Blueballer said:
Based on the arguments made here in the past few minutes STANFORD based on this years resume is a questionable #1 seed as well.
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Beat both Tennessee and Purdue.
 
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ed4ourgirls said:
For me, the question of the final number 1 seed is academic. Likewise, I don't
really care which regional we're sent to - we are going to win that regional and
go to the final four.

The only real test that I see is Notre Dame in the championship game.
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Probably so but the question speaks to the probable location of where 2 of the number one seeds will be playing and why. As the overall one seed UCONN's reward would be going to the Louisville region to probably play the host team on their home floor? Hardly a reward. Despite the arguments made here for Louisville not being a one seed, who would ENJOY being put in that region as the one seed OVER them?
 
vowelguy said:
Beat both Tennessee and Purdue.
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Big deal I say ;)

Beating Purdue is an accomplishment? Talk about an over-rated team. Look at their losses. Ditto Tenn IMO
 
I guess we will all know soon enough. If Louisville loses by 25+ to UCONN there is nothing about that that says #1 seed. If UT, WVU or Baylor win their conference one of those have deserved the 1 seed.
 
If this described Tennessee who would defend this as deserving a 1 seed.

"No top 20 win and didn't win their regular season or conference tournament"
 
Blueballer said:
Based on the arguments made here in the past few minutes STANFORD based on this years resume is a questionable #1 seed as well.
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Agreed. I would put UT, Baylor or WVU as a 1 over Stanford.
 
If UCONN were guaranteed to go to Lincoln I doubt that anyone would be trying to defend Louisville as a 1 seed. I don't know how a team can be ranked #3 when they haven't beaten anybody.
 
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easttexastrash said:
Agreed. I would put UT, Baylor or WVU as a 1 over Stanford.
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Yes and Baylor's bad losses were not as bad as Tenn's bad losses. In fact you could argue only one except that the WVU loss while to a ranked team was at home. The KY overtime loss was such a hard fought game it's almost a wash.
 
easttexastrash said:
If UCONN were guaranteed to go to Lincoln I doubt that anyone would be trying to defend Louisville as a 1 seed. I don't know how a team can be ranked #3 when they haven't beaten anybody.
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Yes they would. (I would). In a way I agree but the problem is they have to play UCONN twice. The rest of the League is weak, what can they do? Plus people have been making your argument against Stamford because of their weak conference for years. And nearly every year they are a one seed in the West.
 
easttexastrash said:
If UCONN were guaranteed to go to Lincoln I doubt that anyone would be trying to defend Louisville as a 1 seed. I don't know how a team can be ranked #3 when they haven't beaten anybody.
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Umm because they didn't lose to Vanderbilt and LSU? Or Washington? Or Kansas?
 
ASweet3781 said:
Wait a minute.

Who has Baylor beaten?
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#7 WVU and # 18 Okie Lite two times. How does that compare to ZERO top 20 wins for Louisville? By my count that is 3-0.
 
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ASweet3781 said:
Umm because they didn't lose to Vanderbilt and LSU? Or Washington? Or Kansas?
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The good thing for Baylor is that they have since beaten Kansas by 20 and 34, so I figure the committee won't even consider that loss.
 
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easttexastrash said:
#7 WVU and # 18 two times. How does that compare to ZERO top 20 wins for Louisville? By my count that is 3-0.
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Tough.

You should have beaten Kansas than. Today certainly shows if you were that good you should have handled them easily.

You also lost to WVU. AT home. The best team WVU beat out of conference was Virginia. Apparently Louisville is the only team that plays a unremarkable out of schedule. Unless your South Carolina, Baylor, and West Virginia.

Perhaps WVU and Baylor have such great records because they feasted on a down Big 12?

I assume #18 is Oklahoma State. And I just gotta laugh at that. Big deal.

What I love about the people who feel Louisville doesn't deserve a 1 seed? A group of kids that made the title game a year ago deserve a skeptical scrutiny. But let's over look far more untested resumes!
 
easttexastrash said:
The good thing for Baylor is that they have since beaten Kansas by 20 and 34, so I figure the committee won't even consider that loss.
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Aside from the Black & White RPI numbers everyone uses, I just like to base my feelings on what I've seen. To me Baylor gave UCONN their toughest test. The Huskies didn't pull away in that game until the very end. I know that won't count with the committee or especially with other team's fans but I give Baylor some real high marks for how tough they played us in that game.
 
Baylor looked great against UConn, but they haven't looked as great since, IMO. I would have no issue with them being a #1 seed, but I wouldn't have an issue with Louisville getting it either. I understand that they have no big wins, but they also haven't lost to a team that they are supposed to beat (unlike Stanford and Baylor).
 
ASweet3781 said:
Tough.

You should have beaten Kansas than. Today certainly shows if you were that good you should have handled them easily.

You also lost to WVU. AT home. The best team WVU beat out of conference was Virginia.

Perhaps WVU and Baylor have such great records because they feasted on a down Big 12?

I assume #18 is Oklahoma State. And I just gotta laugh at that. Big deal.

What I love about the people who feel Louisville doesn't deserve a 1 seed? A group of kids that made the title game a year ago deserve a skeptical. But far more sketchy resumes from other teams get over looked?
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WVU, OSU and Baylor don't have a cushy conference like Louisville.

Welcome to the new year. We are talking about this season, not last year's performance. If you don't have a top 20 win, you have my EARNED a 1 seed.
 
Blueballer said:
Aside from the Black & White RPI numbers everyone uses, I just like to base my feelings on what I've seen. To me Baylor gave UCONN their toughest test. The Huskies didn't pull away in that game until the very end. I know that won't count with the committee or especially with other team's fans but I give Baylor some real high marks for how tough they played us in that game.
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The KU loss for Baylor was a complete let-down game after giving UCONN such a tough game. I'm glad we go two chances to prove that loss to be an anomaly.
 
Curious: why do #1 seed speculation threads get so many posts? It's uncanny. Nothing wrong with that, but que sera, sera, I say.
 
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