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Final BE OOC thread 25/26

auror said:
Butler and Villanova winning these last 2 opens the door a bit wider for 5-bids. 4 is probably most likely. Butler injury for Kaiser isn't ideal, though. And now maybe we have to worry about St. John's missing.
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I would not be too disappointed in 4 all things considered. What disappoints me is only having one true contender. Even recently there have always been 2-3 top 4 seeds. Looking like just us this year
 
Tyler2Rings said:
I would not be too disappointed in 4 all things considered. What disappoints me is only having one true contender. Even recently there have always been 2-3 top 4 seeds. Looking like just us this year
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Luckily, our contention will be the truest of the true. No way we crap the bed before the regionals.
 
1-1 day.

Winner: Butler
Loser: St. John’s

Overall: 83-34 (22-28).

Four buy games left that are all must wins.
 
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St. John's loss moved them down on Torvik, shifting us into being favored in every remaining game
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RuffRuff said:
How does that team stay motivated?
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This team plays nothing like Pitino teams of the past. Outside of the track meet against Alabama they're boring. They don't create turnovers, the guard play isn't there. It's just a group of talented players with no identity at all. Really disappointing job by Pitino.

I'll be interested to see if he can get buy in or if some players eventually check out. Hurley should mop the floor with him.
 
superjohn said:
This team plays nothing like Pitino teams of the past. Outside of the track meet against Alabama they're boring. They don't create turnovers, the guard play isn't there. It's just a group of talented players with no identity at all. Really disappointing job by Pitino.

I'll be interested to see if he can get buy in or if some players eventually check out. Hurley should mop the floor with him.
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Last years team generated a lot of extra shots through turnovers and offensive rebounds. They’d take 10+ shotS mort than their opponent. This teams is lifeless that way. Hopkins was a lousy fit. He’s a lazy shot hawk.

Worth mentioning, Georgetown just lost to a Xavier team at home who just lost to Creighton at home by a 100. Gtwon stinks - when will Cooley put a decent product out there? Marquette with another 20 point loss. That team isn't even competetive.

Our only shots at losing this year:

@Creighton
@SHU
@StJ

And not even sure those three aren't really winnable.
 
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There are four buy games left that the league must win:

Butler vs NJIT
Creighton vs. Utah Tech
Georgetown vs. Coppin State
St. John's vs. Harvard

Torvik tournament percentages:

UConn: 100%
St. John's: 98.2%
Villanova: 78.8%
Seton Hall: 76.5%

Butler: 42.1%
Creighton: 32.6%

Providence: 0.9%
Xavier: 0.5%
Georgetown: 0.3%
Marquette: 0.2%
DePaul: 0.2%

If you do the simple statistical practice known as expected value, the league ends up with 4.3 bids as of today.
 
NET update:

UConn (7)
St. John's (28)
Villanova (30)
Seton Hall (34)
Butler (44)

Creighton (64)
Providence (99)
Xavier (120)
Georgetown (137)
DePaul (148)
Marquette (175)
 
P4 records by team (22-28 overall):

UConn: 5-1
Butler: 3-1
Seton Hall: 3-1
Xavier: 2-2
Georgetown: 2-2
Villanova: 2-2
St. John's: 2-4
DePaul: 1-2
Providence: 1-4
Creighton: 1-4
Marquette: 0-5
 
RuffRuff said:
Last years team generated a lot of extra shots through turnovers and offensive rebounds. They’d take 10+ shotS mort than their opponent. This teams is lifeless that way. Hopkins was a lousy fit. He’s a lazy shot hawk.

Worth mentioning, Georgetown just lost to a Xavier team at home who just lost to Creighton at home by a 100. Gtwon stinks - when will Cooley put a decent product out there? Marquette with another 20 point loss. That team isn't even competetive.

Our only shots at losing this year:

@Creighton
@SHU
@StJ

And not even sure those three aren't really winnable.
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The Big East would actually be fine this season if St. John's wasn't such a huge disappointment even with Marquette being terrible and Creighton being so down.

Outside of UConn we don't have any top teams this season like the other power bball conferences but the other conferences have slop just like the Big East has slop.

Xavier, Creighton, and DePaul did fine out of conference against the P4 teams.

We really should have an awesome record this season. Anything more than three losses in conference would be disappointing.
 
alexd said:
At this point, four BE teams in the tourney would be cool.
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That is the most likely number at this point. If Butler can sneak in at #5, that would be great.
 
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So to get 5, Butler has to beat St Johns 1x and UConn one time. Does them beating Villanova or Hall do more harm to the Conference than good? Personally I'd rather have 4 teams as strong as possible than 2-5 interchangeable squads. Looks like 2-5 is most likely though. St Johns absolutely stunk!
 
AllHusky said:
So to get 5, Butler has to beat St Johns 1x and UConn one time. Does them beating Villanova or Hall do more harm to the Conference than good? Personally I'd rather have 4 teams as strong as possible than 2-5 interchangeable squads. Looks like 2-5 is most likely though. St Johns absolutely stunk!
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Butler may not have to beat either of us. They are 9-3 with no bad losses and three P4 wins (including Virginia). They went 8-2 OOC so far with one buy game left. If they win that, they need to go 13-7 in the league to guarantee a bid. Not impossible, but slightly an uphill battle.
 
I ran a teamcast on Torvik for Creighton: assuming win over Utah Tech and a loss to Butler in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 14-6 in league play (20-12 overall), they will be the fourth to last team in. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and St. John's and a loss to both Nova and Seton Hall on the road.

For Butler: assuming win over NJIT and a loss to Nova in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 12-8 in league play (21-11 overall), the will be the second to last team in. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and St. John's and losses to Creighton, Villanova, Seton Hall, and Providence on the road.

For Nova: assuming a loss to Butler in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 12-8 in league play (21-11 overall), they will be the last bye. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and St. John's and losses to Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence on the road.

For Seton Hall: assuming a loss to Butler in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 12-8 in league play (22-10 overall), they will be the last bye. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn, St. John's and Villanova and losses to Creighton and Butler on the road.

For St. John's: assuming a loss to Butler in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 12-8 in league play (19-13 overall), they will be a #10 seed. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and Villanova, and losses on the road to Seton Hall, Providence, Creighton, and Butler.

On a funny note, with the St. John's prediction (and each of these are separate), Torvik has six BE teams in (the five above and UConn).
 
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shizzle787 said:
I ran a teamcast on Torvik for Creighton: assuming win over Utah Tech and a loss to Butler in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 14-6 in league play (20-12 overall), they will be the fourth to last team in. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and St. John's and a loss to both Nova and Seton Hall on the road.

For Butler: assuming win over NJIT and a loss to Nova in the BET quarterfinals, if they finish 12-8 in league play (21-11 overall), the will be the second to last team in. This is assuming 2x losses to UConn and St. John's and losses to Creighton, Villanova, Seton Hall, and Providence on the road.
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Wow.
So who does your Teamcast have winning it all??
 
superjohn said:
The Big East would actually be fine this season if St. John's wasn't such a huge disappointment even with Marquette being terrible and Creighton being so down.

Outside of UConn we don't have any top teams this season like the other power bball conferences but the other conferences have slop just like the Big East has slop.

Xavier, Creighton, and DePaul did fine out of conference against the P4 teams.

We really should have an awesome record this season. Anything more than three losses in conference would be disappointing.
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Can we talk about how awful Marquette is? It's really so much worse than I could have imagined. This team is getting pounded.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Can we talk about how awful Marquette is? It's really so much worse than I could have imagined. This team is getting pounded.
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Shaka's philosophy is outdated. That simple.
 
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