February General CBB Discussion Thread

[RuffRuff]

Outside of the first half of the BYU game his play has been pretty mid as of late

The close of the Texas Tech game was special.

They need him out there more because they need to figure out how to work around him. When he's out there now it doesn't feel like a 5 man team, it feels like DP and 4 guys.

I didn't watch that game and see two teams that could win a title. ISU plays some very good defense, but they generally don't have a lot of horsepower on offense.

Up until KU figures out how to consisently play with DP, they are limited. ISU feels like an Elite 8 ceiling to me.

 

[Mr. French]

That Florida win is aging beautifully.

 

[blkknight1]

Think Petersen suffers from what most of the guys on that 06 UConn Team suffered from, he just looking to the NBA college ball is just something to keep him occupied until June.

 

[Mr. French]

The close of the Texas Tech game was special.

They need him out there more because they need to figure out how to work around him. When he's out there now it doesn't feel like a 5 man team, it feels like DP and 4 guys.

I didn't watch that game and see two teams that could win a title. ISU plays some very good defense, but they generally don't have a lot of horsepower on offense.

Up until KU figures out how to consisently play with DP, they are limited. ISU feels like an Elite 8 ceiling to me.

I don't agree - I think ISU can win it all - they have a great PG and have a few snipers with good rebounding too.

I don't think they will, but they can.

 

[RuffRuff]

That Florida win is aging beautifully.

Rather than our wins aging beautiful, we as a team need to age beautifully at this point. We control our destiny, we don't need wins to age well at this point.

Think Petersen suffers from what most of the guys on that 06 UConn Team suffered from, he just looking to the NBA college ball is just something to keep him occupied until June.

Even the way he walks through the handshake line at the end of game is a little unusual. He feels a little different. It may be why he looks different, not sure how that blends in with the team.

 

[Mr. French]

Rather than our wins aging beautiful, we as a team need to age beautifully at this point. We control our destiny, we don't need wins to age well at this point.

Even the way he walks through the handshake line at the end of game is a little unusual. He feels a little different. It may be why he looks different, not sure how that blends in with the team.

I guess...I think most teams need both. If KU and FL and Illinois suddenly were unranked, that wouldn't help us. They're all playing like title contenders (KU not today) and that helps our resume.

 

[RuffRuff]

I don't agree - I think ISU can win it all - they have a great PG and have a few snipers with good rebounding too.

I don't think they will, but they can.

I guess...I think most teams need both. If KU and FL and Illinois suddenly were unranked, that wouldn't help us. They're all playing like title contenders (KU not today) and that helps our resume.

I think our OOC resume value isn't going to appreciate at such a level that it really swings how it mpacts our seeding. We have a path, as does Houston. It's 1a and 1b for the 1 seed. We should handle all games other than @Nova and StJ, as they should other than the 3 against ISU, Kansas & AZ. How each team does there will determine who gets that 1.

We go 0-2 and they go 1-2, they probably get it. We go 1-1, they go 2-1, they probably get it. We own it right now, but by the slimmest of margins is how I see it. We go 2-0, as we should, we control destiny. Let's win out.

As for ISU, they feel like they are one ingredient away from being a champion. Something about their system seems to break down in spots, ala losing at a bad Cinci, along with track record in the tourney. Their big 3 issolid, but nothing that jumps out at me.

 

[superjohn]

Think Petersen suffers from what most of the guys on that 06 UConn Team suffered from, he just looking to the NBA college ball is just something to keep him occupied until June.

Bill Self has played it all wrong with him. The best thing he could've done is tell Peterson and his people to take a hike.

 

[RuffRuff]

Bill Self has played it all wrong with him. The best thing he could've done is tell Peterson and his people to take a hike.

It's a real tough call - you don't want to be that coach that loses out on future recruits because you told a top kid to take a hike. Their hypothetical ceiling with him out there is much higher. That said, their chemistry with him definitely seems off.

 

[Mr. French]

I think our OOC resume value isn't going to appreciate at such a level that it really swings how it mpacts our seeding. We have a path, as does Houston. It's 1a and 1b for the 1 seed. We should handle all games other than @Nova and StJ, as they should other than the 3 against ISU, Kansas & AZ. How each team does there will determine who gets that 1.

We go 0-2 and they go 1-2, they probably get it. We go 1-1, they go 2-1, they probably get it. We own it right now, but by the slimmest of margins is how I see it. We go 2-0, as we should, we control destiny. Let's win out.

As for ISU, they feel like they are one ingredient away from being a champion. Something about their system seems to break down in spots, ala losing at a bad Cinci, along with track record in the tourney. Their big 3 issolid, but nothing that jumps out at me.

Yeah going forward I agree. I don't know what it is about my statement that you're arguing with. The W against FL is aging beautifully, if they were playing bad and out of the top 25 with 10 losses or something, it wouldn't.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yeah going forward I agree. I don't know what it is about my statement that you're arguing with. The W against FL is aging beautifully, if they were playing bad and out of the top 25 with 10 losses or something, it wouldn't.

Not arguing it isn’t aging well, it is, simply stating how it ages at this point doesn’t have impact on our seeding.

 

[aceboon]

Bill Self has played it all wrong with him. The best thing he could've done is tell Peterson and his people to take a hike.

he knows the ceiling without him is limited, Council and White are nice players and they've endeared themselves to KU fans in their last year but realistically on a neutral floor those guys aren't leading you to anything.

 

[Umami Zen]

I think our OOC resume value isn't going to appreciate at such a level that it really swings how it mpacts our seeding. We have a path, as does Houston. It's 1a and 1b for the 1 seed. We should handle all games other than @Nova and StJ, as they should other than the 3 against ISU, Kansas & AZ. How each team does there will determine who gets that 1.

We go 0-2 and they go 1-2, they probably get it. We go 1-1, they go 2-1, they probably get it. We own it right now, but by the slimmest of margins is how I see it. We go 2-0, as we should, we control destiny. Let's win out.

As for ISU, they feel like they are one ingredient away from being a champion. Something about their system seems to break down in spots, ala losing at a bad Cinci, along with track record in the tourney. Their big 3 issolid, but nothing that jumps out at me.

RR. Don't want you to worry. We hold serve at home and split one of the two away games. Nova game could be the catalyst to another crazy run.Floor is 5-1. Stay tuned.

 

[aceboon]

BYU lost Saunders to a leg injury, they're basically a 3 man team as it is, if they lose him for an extended period they're cooked

 

[RuffRuff]

BYU lost Saunders to a leg injury, they're basically a 3 man team as it is, if they lose him for an extended period they're cooked

Maybe next go they don’t put their entire NIL pot into two players and they spread the wealth a bit. That would include stealing one from a conference mate. It’s hard to feel bad for them.

 

[gsmooth]

At the end of the day, even if all this is true. A player is going to be highly motivated to at the very least want to get that max deal. Zion played every game he could at Duke and has shown at this level he clearly doesn’t love the game.

I don’t think you get as good and skilled as Peterson without loving the game of basketball.

I don't think Peterson gets to his level without loving the game either. He has clearly worked hard on his game. The question is does he love it enough after he gets the bag. Make no mistake about it, he will get these questions more than other draft picks during his pre draft interviews. The last thing a team wants is give him a big contract and have him be like Zion.
The way Peterson is choosing to play or not to, or maybe that his family and handlers deciding that I don't know, it raises flags for any NBA team looking at him. It should not be breaking news when he decides to play against Iowa State, a top 10 team.

 

[BGesus4]

Lee has a good amount of talent but has absolutely no feel for the game

 

[gsmooth]

It's a real tough call - you don't want to be that coach that loses out on future recruits because you told a top kid to take a hike. Their hypothetical ceiling with him out there is much higher. That said, their chemistry with him definitely seems off.

That's the big thing. That's why Self is somewhat defending Peterson in press conferences even if he does feel different, which I don't know if he does or doesn't. But if he tells Peterson to get the hell out or simply calls him out, opposing coaches in future recruiting battles with Self for top players will say, "I will always your back. Did you see how Self threw Peterson under bus? Do you really want to chose him and Kansas?"