Feb. 3 "top 16" reveal by the committee

[KY Card Fan]

I sill don't see my Cardinals as a #1 seed. I'll gladly change my opinion, but will need to see wins in the next three games, culminating with February 13 at NC State.

Right now my four #1 seeds are Baylor, South Carolina, Oregon and UConn.

 

[UConnCat]

The best part of this year's tournament is that 4 teams will spend a weekend in Ft Wayne, Indiana, a location chosen because of a particular school in northwest Indiana. Oh well.

 

[Plebe]

They love having Cal play Baylor in the 2nd Round, but they won't have that option this year. I think the 2 have met 3 or 4 times in recent years.

2nd round in 2014, 2017 and 2019

 

[DefenseBB]

As a U of A fan, they should not be in the top 16...yet. Their OOC was pitiful and even worse was Adia defending it and not acknowledging she would be trying hard to improve it. She sidestepped that question so while this year's schedule was mostly done before they won the NIT last year with Reese and McDonald, next year, she doesn't have any excuses to not improve it.

After watching the city of LA vs. AZ matchups this weekend, UofA is pretty impressive and they will need to win on the road to warrant a better seed and see UCLA fall more as I think their OOC wasn't so awe inspiring either but still significantly better than Arizona's.

That said, I just want to see the Regionals all with attendance near the seating max:
Greenville-Bon Secours is 15,000
Dallas-Moody Coliseum is 7,000
Portland-Moda Center is 19,000
Ft.Wayne-Allen War Coliseum is 10,200

To do this, the committee needs Louisville and UConn in Ft. Wayne, SC in Greenville, any of Oregon or OSU in Portland and Baylor in Dallas. Short of that, the Regionals will have issues as they always do.

 

[Plebe]

I just can't believe Creme has Indiana seeded, who has 5 losses including a loss by 10 to UCLA at home, over Arizona who just beat UCLA 92-66, has only 3 losses to top 10 teams, and has beaten 3 ranked teams. If the committee doesn't seed Arizona it's a travesty. They beat Texas, the secod best Big12 team, by 25 at Texas.

Texas is not the second-best team in the Big 12 this year. Let's remind ourselves that Texas also has losses to Hawaii and South Florida.

And regardless, the Big 12 is not that good after Baylor.

 

[Plebe]

ASU did beat Creighton at home. This is the Creighton team that just upset DePaul. While Creighton is not ranked and is in the middle of their conference would this be considered a quality win now?

Creighton is a top 50 team, certainly. They've taken some losses in conference, but their best player Jaylyn Agnew was out with injury for a couple of those. More importantly, they have quality wins over West Virginia, Marquette, and now DePaul.

For example while it was a blow out the UCLA loss on the road was to a very good Arizona team. I wonder if ASU gets any benefit from their home upsets of the then ranked second and third Bucks and Beavers. Overall the Pac will put six teams in the big dance.

The "benefit" is that ASU is no longer a bubble team. I'm not kidding -- without those two huge wins, ASU's only quality win would be over Creighton, and their RPI would be in the 40s. But thanks to those two wins, they're looking at a #5 seed right now.

 

[LETTERL]

As a U of A fan, they should not be in the top 16...yet. Their OOC was pitiful and even worse was Adia defending it and not acknowledging she would be trying hard to improve it. She sidestepped that question so while this year's schedule was mostly done before they won the NIT last year with Reese and McDonald, next year, she doesn't have any excuses to not improve it.

After watching the city of LA vs. AZ matchups this weekend, UofA is pretty impressive and they will need to win on the road to warrant a better seed and see UCLA fall more as I think their OOC wasn't so awe inspiring either but still significantly better than Arizona's.

That said, I just want to see the Regionals all with attendance near the seating max:
Greenville-Bon Secours is 15,000
Dallas-Moody Coliseum is 7,000
Portland-Moda Center is 19,000
Ft.Wayne-Allen War Coliseum is 10,200

To do this, the committee needs Louisville and UConn in Ft. Wayne, SC in Greenville, any of Oregon or OSU in Portland and Baylor in Dallas. Short of that, the Regionals will have issues as they always do.

If the NCAA wants to put butts in the seats, they'll put South Carolina as the #1 in Greenville, and NC State as the 2-seed/3 seed, and hope the Wolfpack Women make it to the second weekend. A high percentage of NC State alumni live in the southeast and they'll come out to support the team. And South Carolina has rabid fan support. Plus, fan bases of two other teams.

Sending NC State out to Portland would cut down on those who could afford to attend.

 

[DefenseBB]

If the NCAA wants to put butts in the seats, they'll put South Carolina as the #1 in Greenville, and NC State as the 2-seed/3 seed, and hope the Wolfpack Women make it to the second weekend. A high percentage of NC State alumni live in the southeast and they'll come out to support the team. And South Carolina has rabid fan support. Plus, fan bases of two other teams.

Sending NC State out to Portland would cut down on those who could afford to attend.

How dare you use logic when discussing the NCAA! Nan-I need a two week ban on LetterL...violating known protocol

 

[triaddukefan]

Wow.... Arizona at 13... Maryland at 8

 

[domerduck]

As a U of A fan, they should not be in the top 16...yet. Their OOC was pitiful and even worse was Adia defending it and not acknowledging she would be trying hard to improve it. She sidestepped that question so while this year's schedule was mostly done before they won the NIT last year with Reese and McDonald, next year, she doesn't have any excuses to not improve it.

After watching the city of LA vs. AZ matchups this weekend, UofA is pretty impressive and they will need to win on the road to warrant a better seed and see UCLA fall more as I think their OOC wasn't so awe inspiring either but still significantly better than Arizona's.

That said, I just want to see the Regionals all with attendance near the seating max:
Greenville-Bon Secours is 15,000
Dallas-Moody Coliseum is 7,000
Portland-Moda Center is 19,000
Ft.Wayne-Allen War Coliseum is 10,200

To do this, the committee needs Louisville and UConn in Ft. Wayne, SC in Greenville, any of Oregon or OSU in Portland and Baylor in Dallas. Short of that, the Regionals will have issues as they always do.

If you are U of A fan you should be happy she got all those home games and has got the local fans excites with more than 10,000 fans showing up. My guess is not too many high quality opponents will fly to Tuscon if they don't have to. She needs more home and homes, but I like Adia's approach. Reminds me how Scott built up Oregon State.

 

[HuskyNan]

How dare you use logic when discussing the NCAA! Nan-I need a two week ban on LetterL...violating known protocol

Numerically speaking, it would be easier to ban the logical people than the crazed fans

 

[domerduck]

"If the committee doesn't seed Arizona it's a travesty."

Hard to believe butCharlie says Arizona's ooc schedule is ranked 337th

Nice to see the committee is smarter than Creme. No Indiana, Zona at 13.

 

[Plebe]

Wow.... Arizona at 13... Maryland at 8

I called Maryland at 8, I'm frankly shocked by Arizona at 13. They also really let MSU off the hook.

Message sent by the committee: Go out and schedule the 337th-ranked OOS and you will be rewarded.

Here's the committee's top 16.

1. SC
2. Bay
3. L'ville
4. Ore
5. UConn
6. Stan
7. NCSt
8. MD
9. OSU
10. MSU
11. UCLA
12. Gonzaga
13. AZ
14. DePaul
15. Iowa
16. N'western

 

[azfan]

Arizona example that quality losses (Oregon, Oregon State) trumps weak schedule?

Anyone care to impeach that reasoning.

 

[domerduck]

Arizona example that quality losses (Oregon, Oregon State) trumps weak schedule?

Anyone care to impeach that reasoning.

They do have some quality wins, like beating your devils twice.

 

[TheFarmFan]

The Maryland placement boggles the mind, and even I as a semi-Zona partisan wouldn't have put them that high. I guess they really care about good wins and don't care about bad losses or lil' sisters of the poor OOC schedules...

 

[Plebe]

They do have some quality wins, like beating your devils twice.

#337 OOC schedule. That's just disgusting.

Indiana has a better win than anything Arizona has, AND they actually played a respectable OOC, and they get punished for it.

 

[Lorcan]

They do have some quality wins, like beating your devils twice.

Okay, but those Devils beat Oregon and Oregon State and aren't in the Top 16....

I was hoping that Gonzaga would be higher, but understand why they are only 12. Essentially, any team that loses to Stanford is a 3 seed.

 

[azfan]

Arizona example that quality losses (Oregon, Oregon State) trumps weak schedule?

Anyone care to impeach that reasoning.

Given this logic and the fact that the Pac has 11 ranked matchups remaining compared to 2 in the Big 10, could ASU slip into top 16 ahead of Northwestern Iowa with quality losses upcoming to Oregon OSU and Stanford as well sweep by Arizona that should be considered 2 quality losses?

 

[garddog]

State in Dallas to beat Baylor. I can live with that.

 

[Plebe]

 

[garddog]

NCAA is not credible if they keep jacking the seedings. They should put teams exactly where they fall.

1,8,9,16
2,7,10,15
3,6,11,14
4,5,12,13

 

[Lorcan]

I hate it.

I'm also extremely surprised that they didn't put Gonzaga into the Portland regional as they draw extremely well. It's interesting that they followed Geography for the 2 seeds, but then when it came to the 3 seeds, it was more of a matter of potential balancing out the regions, which is why Gonzaga likely couldn't go to Portland as a weak #2 is already there.

I was envisioning a regional of

1. Oregon
2. UConn
3. Gonzaga
4. DePaul

Now, doesn't that sound fun?

 

[Plebe]

NCAA is not credible if they keep jacking the seedings. They should put teams exactly where they fall.

1,8,9,16
2,7,10,15
3,6,11,14
4,5,12,13

There's any number of reasons why they depart from the true S-curve: geography, conference affiliation, etc.

I like the fact that they now put the top teams in the same conference in separate regions. Wouldn't want to see Oregon have to play Stanford in the Elite Eight, for example.

 

[garddog]

There's any number of reasons why they depart from the true S-curve: geography, conference affiliation, etc.

I like the fact that they now put the top teams in the same conference in separate regions. Wouldn't want to see Oregon have to play Stanford in the Elite Eight, for example.

Playing favorites with UCONN is why everyone else gets screwed.
If they want the game to grow they need to stop screwing teams over to show favoritism to certain teams.