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Watched some of the second half, was an enjoyable game from teams I don't get to see much of (looked more like CFL game between Edmonton and Winnipeg based on the team colors). The speed on both sides surprised me, guys were flying around. Montana's last TD to get within 3 was a beautiful pass. Not having one man back to fair catch the ball to give time for a hail Mary was baffling.
 
With the dominance of NDSU & teams of the upper Midwest in general, I question whether teams from other areas can compete consistently in the FCS playoffs. The decision by the Ivy League to allow post season play is admirable, but the Ivies will be at a competitive disadvantage unless they give scholarships & make active use of the transfer portal. Other conferences will have to drastically step up their game if they are to even hope to break the current cycle.
 
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coachcap said:
With the dominance of NDSU & teams of the upper Midwest in general, I question whether teams from other areas can compete consistently in the FCS playoffs. The decision by the Ivy League to allow post season play is admirable, but the Ivies will be at a competitive disadvantage unless they give scholarships & make active use of the transfer portal. Other conferences will have to drastically step up their game if they are to even hope to break the current cycle.
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Do you think many of the Ivy League athletes are actually paying for their education?
 
Fishy said:
Why would they?

Those folks are having the time of their lives winning championships. Why trade that for life in some conference they don’t care about hoping to qualify for some marginal bowl on December 28th at 10 am?
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many programs have realized just that and dropped back down... idaho for one.

You move up not because you think you can win but because you think your school benefits by being part of a different club
 
Patman said:
many programs have realized just that and dropped back down... idaho for one.

You move up not because you think you can win but because you think your school benefits by being part of a different club
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Idaho was kind of forced to drop.

The Vandals were backed into a corner in March, when the Sun Belt decided that it would not renew Idaho’s football-only membership past the 2017 season.


www.seattletimes.com

Idaho moving to FCS: 'Impossible' to afford staying at FBS level, AD says

Flanked by football coach Paul Petrino and Athletic Director Rob Spear, Idaho President Chuck Staben confirmed at a press conference Thursday morning that the Vandals will join the Big Sky Conference in football in 2018, pending approval by the State...
www.seattletimes.com www.seattletimes.com
 
Patman said:
many programs have realized just that and dropped back down... idaho for one.

You move up not because you think you can win but because you think your school benefits by being part of a different club
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Idaho is the only program to do it in the last 30 years.
 
CCSUblue said:
Idaho is the only program to do it in the last 30 years.
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Fair enough. My opinion is that others should realize it too... UMass.

Edit: I wasn't sure if Montana had done it too
 
Patman said:
Fair enough. My opinion is that others should realize it too... UMass.

Edit: I wasn't sure if Montana had done it too
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There was some talk about them moving up at some point, and they deliberately chose to stay FCS.


Earlier in the thread I mentioned a handful of schools--Marshall, Appalachian St., Georgia Southern and Sam Houston St. Which of them has benefited by moving up? I'd guess none.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
There was some talk about them moving up at some point, and they deliberately chose to stay FCS.


Earlier in the thread I mentioned a handful of schools--Marshall, Appalachian St., Georgia Southern and Sam Houston St. Which of them has benefited by moving up? I'd guess none.
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marshall at best... GA Southern at least made more sense than GA State which made no sense.
 
Patman said:
Fair enough. My opinion is that others should realize it too... UMass.

Edit: I wasn't sure if Montana had done it too
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UMass just was dealt another blow to their conference move with NIU moving the MW for football only.
 
nwhoopfan said:
There was some talk about them moving up at some point, and they deliberately chose to stay FCS.


Earlier in the thread I mentioned a handful of schools--Marshall, Appalachian St., Georgia Southern and Sam Houston St. Which of them has benefited by moving up? I'd guess none.
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You're leaving schools like JMU and Liberty off the list. Probably the most successful move ups. There have been quite a few more Coastal and UNCC.
 
noeynox said:
You're leaving schools like JMU and Liberty off the list. Probably the most successful move ups. There have been quite a few more Coastal and UNCC.
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Results vary. Many teams that have moved up have had some measure of success. I'm not sure how to compare playing in completely irrelevant bowl games vs. deep runs in FCS playoffs. Liberty did get themselves into a major bowl recently...and got curb stomped. Marshall initially did fairly well in 1A/FBS/whatever. I can't remember if Randy Moss was still there when they moved up or if he was already gone. You had the Byron Leftwich years. But somewhere along the line they slipped into mediocrity (or worse) and have been up and down for a while now.

There's more $ to be made in FBS, but it also costs more to try to compete at that level. There are a million bowl games, and most of them nobody cares about at all. I'm sure it's very complex weighing whether to move up or not, but I'm just not sure chasing the big prize is worth it for most schools.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Results vary. Many teams that have moved up have had some measure of success. I'm not sure how to compare playing in completely irrelevant bowl games vs. deep runs in FCS playoffs. Liberty did get themselves into a major bowl recently...and got curb stomped. Marshall initially did fairly well in 1A/FBS/whatever. I can't remember if Randy Moss was still there when they moved up or if he was already gone. You had the Byron Leftwich years. But somewhere along the line they slipped into mediocrity (or worse) and have been up and down for a while now.

There's more $ to be made in FBS, but it also costs more to try to compete at that level. There are a million bowl games, and most of them nobody cares about at all. I'm sure it's very complex weighing whether to move up or not, but I'm just not sure chasing the big prize is worth it for most schools.
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yeah you'll have to see what the long term looks like for JMU and Liberty. I don't doubt liberty will throw money at things until results come around. JMU seems to have strong support but we will see.
 
None of the schools that moved up have won like ten FCS championships.

I saw a video of their pep rally before the title game - those people are having an amazing experience.

DoctorWho85 said:
UMass just was dealt another blow to their conference move with NIU moving the MW for football only.
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Honestly, if there are any UMass fans left, they just need to cling to hockey like grim death. The rest is just an inferno.
 
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Fishy said:
None of the schools that moved up have won like ten FCS championships.

I saw a video of their pep rally before the title game - those people are having an amazing experience.



Honestly, if there are any UMass fans left, they just need to cling to hockey like grim death. The rest is just an inferno.
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Lowell has caught up to them in so many sports its just depressing for UMass. I won't even say its exciting for us (UML '04, UConn '09) though it is nice that the program is winning in other sports but it shouldn't be this close. We should be getting skunked by good old ugly sister.
 
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