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87Xfer said:
You're just making stuff up at this point. You have no idea what or when the staff tells players.
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That's the most bothersome to me.

He literally sees something change and concludes "this was never discussed prior, and now the coaching staff realizes it's a need" as opposed to "they probably were talking about this a lot but it never quite materialized."

It indicates a low level of experience or knowledge of actual sports coaching, playing and development. Coaching or playing almost any level above 5 years old would make you understand that sometimes things are emphasized for 2 years and they NEVER develop. That doesn't mean it wasn't worked on, emphasized and thoroughly dissected.

Also, you don't just let every player work on every weakness they have in game until they "figure it out." This is a national championship aspiring program every year, that's not at all how it works. If Solo or any other player doesn't show with utmost confidence that he can do something, it won't be pushed in a game setting.

They work on these things IN PRACTICE where HW611 has no clue what's emphasized.
 
Mr. French said:
That's the most bothersome to me.

He literally sees something change and concludes "this was never discussed prior, and now the coaching staff realizes it's a need" as opposed to "they probably were talking about this a lot but it never quite materialized."

It indicates a low level of experience or knowledge of actual sports coaching, playing and development. Coaching or playing almost any level above 5 years old would make you understand that sometimes things are emphasized for 2 years and they NEVER develop. That doesn't mean it wasn't worked on, emphasized and thoroughly dissected.

Also, you don't just let every player work on every weakness they have in game until they "figure it out." This is a national championship aspiring program every year, that's not at all how it works. If Solo or any other player doesn't show with utmost confidence that he can do something, it won't be pushed in a game setting.

They work on these things IN PRACTICE where HW611 has no clue what's emphasized.
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You all are right. The staff was working on Sanogo’s passing for 4 and a half years in practice and he just finally got comfortable enough to do it after our losing streak.

What great timing for him to finally learn how to pass the ball after 4 years of our staff working on it with him.
 
HW611 said:
You all are right. The staff was working on Sanogo’s passing for 4 and a half years in practice and he just finally got comfortable enough to do it after our losing streak.

What great timing for him to finally learn how to pass the ball after 4 years of our staff working on it with him.
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Since Adama was at UConn for 3 years I think your thesis falls apart
 
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HooperScooper said:
Wouldn't having longer arms help with your handle? Your hands are lower to the ground so the dribble isn't as high. Maybe I'm off base on this.
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Think of arms as simple machines. Longer arms have longer distance from the end to the fulcrum (elbow or shoulder, depending), and they are proportionally heavier due to the square cube law. It takes more effort and strength to move things at the end of long arms, and it's harder to control fine movements.

But yeah, the reach has positives for dribbling as well.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
If this is a bit it’s on par with the guy who does Chief.
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This is right on cue with some of Palatine’s lusting for the backup QB or Upstater on some obscure education policy.
 
auror said:
Think of arms as simple machines. Longer arms have longer distance from the end to the fulcrum (elbow or shoulder, depending), and they are proportionally heavier due to the square cube law. It takes more effort and strength to move things at the end of long arms, and it's harder to control fine movements.

But yeah, the reach has positives for dribbling as well.
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revenge of the nerds GIF
 
auror said:
Think of arms as simple machines. Longer arms have longer distance from the end to the fulcrum (elbow or shoulder, depending), and they are proportionally heavier due to the square cube law. It takes more effort and strength to move things at the end of long arms, and it's harder to control fine movements.

But yeah, the reach has positives for dribbling as well.
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Auror I ain’t doin none a dat
 
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Edward Sargent said:
Since Adama was at UConn for 3 years I think your thesis falls apart
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Even better it took them only 3 and a half years to teach him how to pass the ball.

I can only imagine the work that goes into having someone attempt a pass in game.
 
HW611 said:
Even better it took them only 3 and a half years to teach him how to pass the ball.

I can only imagine the work that goes into having someone attempt a pass in game.
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What on earth is your point? You genuinely think they just never talked about him passing then one day they decided to tell him and he started doing it?

He was a guy learning to play ball - he didn’t NEVER pass he simply sometimes shot in a crowd when he could have kicked it out. Eventually, he learned a deeper level of basketball.

Guys develop aspects of their games gradually and eventually YOU see the results. Every athlete in every sport would tell you the things they’re working on don’t always arise right away.

You, random fan, think you cracked the code on player development by simply telling a player to do something.

Why doesn’t every coach simply tell their players the exact right thing to do every play? I can’t imagine a player IGNORING their coach and doing the wrong thing! No player in history has ever shot when the better play was a pass, he must hate his terrible coach!

You sound insane, tbh.
 
I bet Josh Allen, QB goat, who was considered reckless and erratic with the ball his first few years but incredibly talented, was never taught anything about ball security until his 4th year in the NFL.

At that point, his coaches, for the very first time, told him not to throw interceptions and he said “wow! Why didn’t you tell me that before! Ok, I’ll stop.”

Now he’s a ball security machine, simply because in his 4th or 5th year he was told not to throw picks.
 
Mr. French said:
I bet Josh Allen, QB goat, who was considered reckless and erratic with the ball his first few years but incredibly talented, was never taught anything about ball security until his 4th year in the NFL.

At that point, his coaches, for the very first time, told him not to throw interceptions and he said “wow! Why didn’t you tell me that before! Ok, I’ll stop.”

Now he’s a ball security machine, simply because in his 4th or 5th year he was told not to throw picks.
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QB Goat Josh Allen? What the hell
 
Mr. French said:
I bet Josh Allen, QB goat, who was considered reckless and erratic with the ball his first few years but incredibly talented, was never taught anything about ball security until his 4th year in the NFL.

At that point, his coaches, for the very first time, told him not to throw interceptions and he said “wow! Why didn’t you tell me that before! Ok, I’ll stop.”

Now he’s a ball security machine, simply because in his 4th or 5th year he was told not to throw picks.
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We’re not talking about making the right play. We’re talking about attempting to do something.

Stop with these phony false parrallels. Sanogo went from not passing it at all to passing it just fine.

You’re making it seem like he passed it before but turned it over and was bad at it and got better. That would’ve been progression and working on something. No, he just attempted passing the ball after the losing streak. You can be silly enough to think what the coaches were teaching him just magically clicked after 3 and a half years.

I’m going to use common sense critical thinking to assume the coaches assessed the situation and saw that was one of the things that needed to be fixed. And Sanogo is a smart enough guy to easily take coaches direction because I’m going to give him that credit and not assume these players are these dummies where it takes 3 years to do something so simple.

Last post on this.
 
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Hunt for 7 said:
On Adama: There is a difference between telling a player if you pass make sure it serves a purpose and you are confident that you are seeing enough of the floor that you don’t turn a pass into a turnover. Than just saying hey you stink at passing so never pass the ball.

Then in practice the player starts to hone this part of his craft then he has the confidence to make meaningful possession changing passes during a game without having to worry about whether it is going to work or not.

Letting players develop and become confident enough to take certain things into a game is what coaching is all about.

The comment on AJ do you really think the coaches did not know his skill set until halfway through his junior year? They just needed to figure out how to maximize it and make it fit with what they were asking the other 4 players on the floor to do.
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AS was a great UConn player, however, he became a black hole on offense way too much and cost UConn on many crucial possessions. The staff was reactive to AS's decisions to hang on to the ball down low when doubled and tripled up and not looking for the open option on the floor. It was much more apparent in person than on TV. I've been to several UConn practices and dont remember one time when they pulled AS aside or coached to it. Maybe it was during film study. I dont know.
Even my 10 yo grandson saw that at the time.
The staff is talented and strong but have been way too reactive in certain areas. The same can be said about getting Solo to take the ball to the hoop and play defense with his feet rather than all arms and hands.
Nobody is perfect, Dan Hurley and staff do not walk on water - they stick to burning sage 🙃 😂
 
HW611 said:
We’re not talking about making the right play. We’re talking about attempting to do something.

Stop with these phony false parrallels. Sanogo went from not passing it at all to passing it just fine.

You’re making it seem like he passed it before but turned it over and was bad at it and got better. That would’ve been progression and working on something. No, he just attempted passing the ball after the losing streak. You can be silly enough to think what the coaches were teaching him just magically clicked after 3 and a half years.

I’m going to use common sense critical thinking to assume the coaches assessed the situation and saw that was one of the things that needed to be fixed. And Sanogo is a smart enough guy to easily take coaches direction because I’m going to give him that credit and not assume these players are these dummies where it takes 3 years to do something so simple.

Last post on this.
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Brother, that’s what happens in development. It magically clicks.

Thinking a high level D1 staff magically realized their center could pass out of double teams is way sillier.
 
gtcam said:
AS was a great UConn player, however, he became a black hole on offense way too much and cost UConn on many crucial possessions. The staff was reactive to AS's decisions to hang on to the ball down low when doubled and tripled up and not looking for the open option on the floor. It was much more apparent in person than on TV. I've been to several UConn practices and dont remember one time when they pulled AS aside or coached to it. Maybe it was during film study. I dont know.
Even my 10 yo grandson saw that at the time.
The staff is talented and strong but have been way too reactive in certain areas. The same can be said about getting Solo to take the ball to the hoop and play defense with his feet rather than all arms and hands.
Nobody is perfect, Dan Hurley and staff do not walk on water - they stick to burning sage 🙃 😂
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Oh so from someone that was at practice you didn’t see them emphasizing it? Lol

Thank you GT. Common sense watching the game could’ve answered that question but people love the “trust the coaches” and acting like these players are dummies who are incapable of learning.

Even when it comes to someone as smart as Adama freaking Sanogo
 
Mr. French said:
I bet Josh Allen, QB goat, who was considered reckless and erratic with the ball his first few years but incredibly talented, was never taught anything about ball security until his 4th year in the NFL.

At that point, his coaches, for the very first time, told him not to throw interceptions and he said “wow! Why didn’t you tell me that before! Ok, I’ll stop.”

Now he’s a ball security machine, simply because in his 4th or 5th year he was told not to throw picks.
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Did you just call Josh Allen the QB GOAT, and you believe that? He may the QB GOAT from the neck down.
 
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OK, we have officially entered the frantic Boneyard Preseason Practice Prediction Phase right now. If you all remember this is when due to lack of eyeballs on the new team additions and bare tidbits of information leaked by the coaches, loyal members of The Yard make 100% “accurate” prognostications on who starts, playing time, anticipated improvements of returners, AND who will be NBA drafted and at what number.

Later stages of this phase include impugning of intelligence and character.
BTW, the second the first jump ball goes up in a couple weeks this phase will officially be over and we will enter The Boneyard Second Guessing Hurley Phase. Can’t wait.
 
Mr. French said:
That's the most bothersome to me.

He literally sees something change and concludes "this was never discussed prior, and now the coaching staff realizes it's a need" as opposed to "they probably were talking about this a lot but it never quite materialized."

It indicates a low level of experience or knowledge of actual sports coaching, playing and development. Coaching or playing almost any level above 5 years old would make you understand that sometimes things are emphasized for 2 years and they NEVER develop. That doesn't mean it wasn't worked on, emphasized and thoroughly dissected.

Also, you don't just let every player work on every weakness they have in game until they "figure it out." This is a national championship aspiring program every year, that's not at all how it works. If Solo or any other player doesn't show with utmost confidence that he can do something, it won't be pushed in a game setting.

They work on these things IN PRACTICE where HW611 has no clue what's emphasized.
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I find it interesting that you and others responding to HW feel the need to change him. For me the issue isn't the things he states. As OTT as they may be his intent is clearly to have a debate with people. He enjoys the process and understands the more preposterous the statement the greater the likelihood he'll get responses. Even if I'm incorrect he has demonstrated that none of you will ever succeed in altering his opinions.

To me he's not the ridiculous individual. Those of you that are frustrated with him and feel the need to refute him in a futile effort are the fools. Aggravating as he is why are you spending so much of your time on a cause that is inconsequential and futile? Now if you enjoy this interaction and your statements of exasperation are made for the intent of drama have fun.
 
ctchamps said:
I find it interesting that you and others responding to HW feel the need to change him. For me the issue isn't the things he states. As OTT as they may be his intent is clearly to have a debate with people. He enjoys the process and understands the more preposterous the statement the greater the likelihood he'll get responses. Even if I'm incorrect he has demonstrated that none of you will ever succeed in altering his opinions.

To me he's not the ridiculous individual. Those of you that are frustrated with him and feel the need to refute him in a futile effort are the fools. Aggravating as he is why are you spending so much of your time on a cause that is inconsequential and futile? Now if you enjoy this interaction and your statements of exasperation are made for the intent of drama have fun.
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He is the most Interesting Man on the Boneyard. Stay thirsty Yarders.
 
ctchamps said:
I find it interesting that you and others responding to HW feel the need to change him. For me the issue isn't the things he states. As OTT as they may be his intent is clearly to have a debate with people. He enjoys the process and understands the more preposterous the statement the greater the likelihood he'll get responses. Even if I'm incorrect he has demonstrated that none of you will ever succeed in altering his opinions.

To me he's not the ridiculous individual. Those of you that are frustrated with him and feel the need to refute him in a futile effort are the fools. Aggravating as he is why are you spending so much of your time on a cause that is inconsequential and futile? Now if you enjoy this interaction and your statements of exasperation are made for the intent of drama have fun.
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I’m in no way frustrated. He’s making definitive statements that are ridiculous, so I’m engaging in his thirst for debate.
 
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