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Fagnano and Bell are out for the Wasabi Bowl

Here's where the comparison is wrong:

1) You are comparing a regular season game to a bowl game. A better comparison would be the if the men's basketball team decides not to play in the NIT over the Crown tournament. Would that be entitlement?

2) the schools and the NCAA have bent over backwards to make sure they are not treated like employees. Since they are not employees, the schools cannot control where and when they play, even if they are getting paid. If you were to ask UConn if they prefer this system over considering the athletes as employees, they would 100% choose to keep the status quo. So who really is in the wrong here?
I’m not playing lawyer on a Sunday but I’ll address the first part. WTF difference does it make if it’s regular season or post-season. Does anyone think the players are being paid for regular season only, and they’ll have to negotiate a new deal for the post season?
 
I’m not playing lawyer on a Sunday but I’ll address the first part. WTF difference does it make if it’s regular season or post-season. Does anyone think the players are being paid for regular season only, and they’ll have to negotiate a new deal for the post season?
Well they are not getting paid to play, otherwise they would be considered employees and we all know the schools don't want that. As long as the NCAA/Schools keep playing this game where the players are not employees, criticizing the players for prioritizing their self interests is a fools errand.
 
Well they are not getting paid to play, otherwise they would be considered employees and we all know the schools don't want that. As long as the NCAA/Schools keep playing this game where the players are not employees, criticizing the players for prioritizing their self interests is a fools errand.
No, they are being paid to play. You can’t possibly believe otherwise. Yes, I understand the legal framework for it is different, but so what? Why doesn’t reality matter?
 
No, they are being paid to play. You can’t possibly believe otherwise. Yes, I understand the legal framework for it is different, but so what? Why doesn’t reality matter?
Guess the sarcasm wasn't clear enough. Yes, they are obviously getting paid to play, everyone can see that. Yet the schools and the NCAA keep trying to live in this alternate reality where the athletes are not employees for their own self interests. As long as the schools and the NCAA continue to prioritize their self interests, why should we criticize the athletes for prioritizing their own?
 
Parsing fault (kids versus schools) is a fool’s errand. College revenue sports are just like the pros - squeezing the fan’s wallet and loyalty for a diminishing regular season product. Maximizing revenue via the playoffs/tourney when the casuals show up to watch. When they start killing off non-revenue sports for this, I’m out.
 
Why? Any reason given?
When the team comes first coach did what he did, the wheels came off. We would have been better off declining the bowl game given the circumstances. Even the interim coach leaves. Bowls are not going to be quick to pick us after this mess. At some point too, there is an unwritten compact with the fans - next time have a $5-7 million buyout clause. I will argue Mora did that much damage to the program or more. I have zero respect for him, doing everything he teaches young men not to do.
 
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Guess the sarcasm wasn't clear enough. Yes, they are obviously getting paid to play, everyone can see that. Yet the schools and the NCAA keep trying to live in this alternate reality where the athletes are not employees for their own self interests. As long as the schools and the NCAA continue to prioritize their self interests, why should we criticize the athletes for prioritizing their own?
They aren't doing it for their own self interest, they don't want the athletes as employees because it would be the end of college sports.

You should criticize healthy athletes who quit on their teammates whether they are getting paid a ton of money or not. Same goes for high school players quitting on their teammates if there aren't legitimate outside reasons for why they quit. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.
 
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Fwiw, it wasn't very long ago the NFL players fought very hard to get paid for their 17th game. If the money people think the bowls are important, they'll work their way into the nil deals. But the players are gonna get theirs.
 
They aren't doing it for their own self interest, they don't want the athletes as employees because it would be the end of college sports.

You should criticize healthy athletes who quit on their teammates whether they are getting paid a ton of money or not. Same goes for high school players quitting on their teammates if there aren't legitimate outside reasons for why they quit. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.
In a world where conferences and schools are making deals with private equity, paying hundreds of millions of dollars in buyouts, and killing rivalries, you think that the reason they refuse to treat athletes and employees is out of the goodness of their heart? C'mon man. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.

If the schools really cared about college sports, they would go to Congress and say, "Give us an anti trust exemption and in exchange we will give 10% of all our media revenue to fund Olympic sports".
 
In a world where conferences and schools are making deals with private equity, paying hundreds of millions of dollars in buyouts, and killing rivalries, you think that the reason they refuse to treat athletes and employees is out of the goodness of their heart? C'mon man. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.

If the schools really cared about college sports, they would go to Congress and say, "Give us an anti trust exemption and in exchange we will give 10% of all our media revenue to fund Olympic sports".
The NCAA has nothing to do with that.

Making athletes employees would be the end of college sports.
 
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If this is the thought process? Then why does the school want its fans to buy tickets (through the school) and show up? Can't have it both ways.

I don’t know you tell me? The fans can’t expect the great players to play in a game when it means absolutely nothing. This isn’t the days of waking up and watching the parades for the Cotton, Rose, Orange, Peach, Tangerine etc etc now is it? The NCAA and their playoff format made this reality this is on them not me, it’s real get used to it!
 
The NCAA has nothing to do with that.

Making athletes employees would be the end of college sports.
The courts have already decided that they are employees. That was the ruling from the SCOTUS, and what college sports have come to.
 
Here's where the comparison is wrong:

1) You are comparing a regular season game to a bowl game. A better comparison would be the if the men's basketball team decides not to play in the NIT over the Crown tournament. Would that be entitlement?

That might be a reasonable analogy for Notre Dame’s situation. But not for UConn and especially not for a reason like not getting the bowl location they were hoping for, which has been reported. I hope that’s not the reason because that’s weak.
 
Been catching up on the thread.

My excitement for the bowl game is now at an all time low. I wasn’t thrilled about the opponent choice to begin with and now it has even less appeal. I’ll probably still watch it but … ugh. 10 wins not looking good now.
 
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So, on the question of a g5/g6 playoff, would you opt out of getting waxed in the big boy playoff for a chance to win the little brother trophy?
 
We also were Houston's only loss that year under Diaco. We have and will continue to play meaningful games.
 
Good point but still agree to disagree. The football team has multiple “paid players” not getting the hoops players money or close. If they can get to the next level that’s where their livelihoods are and the potential to change their lives not at UConn football.

So why did Bell and Fagnano play in the last game against FAU or the game against Air Force? Both were identified as having a shot at the next level before the end of the regular season.

Travis just signed a $40.5M NFL contract and I’m fairly certain he did not sit out any games based on future livelihood. Playing paid off for him. He will always be a Husky for me even if it means he is playing for the Ravens.
 
So why did Bell and Fagnano play in the last game against FAU or the game against Air Force? Both were identified as having a shot at the next level before the end of the regular season.

Travis just signed a $40.5M NFL contract and I’m fairly certain he did not sit out any games based on future livelihood. Playing paid off for him. He will always be a Husky for me even if it means he is playing for the Ravens.
Travis never had to worry about sitting out any bowl games during his time here because it coincided with REstored.
 
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