Facebook Update: Nebrich's status

[uconnftbl33]

I just saw that Michael Nebrich commentted on his own facebook status saying that he is starting the second and fourth quarters for tomorrow's game.

Now is it true, who knows...but if it is does that mean McEntee gets two quarters or maybe Mac gets one and McCummings gets one...idk...we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[businesslawyer]

Good God. I hope he doesn't get suspended for telling the world what the coaches did not want revealed.

What is it with young people and technology? Seriously. A juror somewhere got sent to jail for a few nights for contempt because he "friended" a party to the suit he was trying. Why is it so hard for young people to understand that statements made and acts taken via social media are part of real life, and not part of a reality TV show or whatever.

 

[Jax Husky]

Good God. I hope he doesn't get suspended for telling the world what the coaches did not want revealed.

What is it with young people and technology? Seriously. A juror somewhere got sent to jail for a few nights for contempt because he "friended" a party to the suit he was trying. Why is it so hard for young people to understand that statements made and acts taken via social media are part of real life, and not part of a reality TV show or whatever.

BL, it's Fordham....I doubt it is a big deal. I don't see this as giving up strategy.

 

[CTMike]

I don't imagine he will be suspended... but I would think he'll get a talking to.

 

[HuskyFan16]

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the secrecy? None of them have any game tape so even if there was a named starter how is a team to prepare for a QB who they've never seen anyway? You can't just assume if mccummings was in that we would be running the option, or if mac was in we would only run a pro set.

 

[businesslawyer]

I don't understand the secrecy. But that's not the point. It's P's decision whether to publicly reveal what is happening. It is not the players' decision.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the secrecy? None of them have any game tape so even if there was a named starter how is a team to prepare for a QB who they've never seen anyway? You can't just assume if mccummings was in that we would be running the option, or if mac was in we would only run a pro set.

I am with you. I don't get the secrecy. The only reason to keep it secret is if you still haven't made up your mind. You would hate to have it come out that Nebrich was playing the second and fourth quarter, then Johnny Mac blows it up and you decide to not put Nebrich in.

But if you are definitely going to play him, why not say it?

 

[Gregory Koch]

Good God. I hope he doesn't get suspended for telling the world what the coaches did not want revealed.

What is it with young people and technology? Seriously. A juror somewhere got sent to jail for a few nights for contempt because he "friended" a party to the suit he was trying. Why is it so hard for young people to understand that statements made and acts taken via social media are part of real life, and not part of a reality TV show or whatever.

Well, this is a little less serious than the juror case. Although frankly, the party to the case should also have been disciplined for accepting the juror's friend request instead of reporting it to the authorities. But in any case, it's Fordham. They really don't gain much from knowing Nebrich is starting the second and fourth quarters. They still don't know who's starting the first and third, so they'll be preparing for Nebrich, McEntee, and McCummings, which is exactly what they should have been doing anyway. And even if they did know who was starting, do you think they'd win?

 

[businesslawyer]

1. The defendant in the trial did report it to the court. Immediately.

2. I could care less about what Fordham knows or doesn't know. And of course Nebrich publicly disclosing what the coach says is a secret will not get him jailed fo contempt. But you are missing the point. If (and I am speculating, but from reports) the Coach has been saying this will not be revealed until game time, and if Nebrich did reveal it before game time, how could a coach be pleased? How could a coach not question the judgment of a QB?

 

[Gregory Koch]

1. The defendant in the trial did report it to the court. Immediately.

2. I could care less about what Fordham knows or doesn't know. And of course Nebrich publicly disclosing what the coach says is a secret will not get him jailed fo contempt. But you are missing the point. If (and I am speculating, but from reports) the Coach has been saying this will not be revealed until game time, and if Nebrich did reveal it before game time, how could a coach be pleased? How could a coach not question the judgment of a QB?

1) Wait... Businesslawyer, would you happen to be the lawyer in that case? Or are you not allowed to say because it's still pending? If the latter, don't say anything lest you wind up like the juror. Anyway, good for the defendant. If you're not speaking from personal experience, can you link to the story please?
2) Good point. But he's a freshman. He was excited about being a college quarterback for the first time. Perhaps a bit too excited. But if HCPP really didn't want the secret to get out, he could have said "Don't tell anybody about this outside the team." Had he said that, and had Nebrich still done it, I would question his judgement. But this is fine.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I hope for this young man's sake that he asked for and received permission to publish this information as while it may be a minor infraction (due to the opponent) it is something that very often coaching staffs do not want publicized.

 

[businesslawyer]

I had nothing to do with the case I mentioned. It was just reported in the news.

 

[UCweCONN]

I don't have a big issue with him saying he is going to play but he shouldn't have been so specific as to when. That could help the opponent. Honestly, I hope PP is not going to be like Belichek when it comes to information.

 

[sdhusky]

I think PP deliberately didn't name a starter to keep the pressure on in practice - that competition brings out the best in players and forcing young players to stay composed during uncertaintly and pressure is a good thing.

I don't think he didn't name a starter to keep Fordham guessing and struggling to game plan.

So I don't think its a big deal.

 

[Jax Husky]

1. The defendant in the trial did report it to the court. Immediately.

2. I could care less about what Fordham knows or doesn't know. And of course Nebrich publicly disclosing what the coach says is a secret will not get him jailed fo contempt. But you are missing the point. If (and I am speculating, but from reports) the Coach has been saying this will not be revealed until game time, and if Nebrich did reveal it before game time, how could a coach be pleased? How could a coach not question the judgment of a QB?

How do you know the coach told him this was a secret though? The coach has simply said he won't reveal the starter until gametime. Also, I see that statement as less of a strategical observation, and moreso a statement on the fact that Coach P didn't know which QB would win out.

 

[BlueMAB]

I don't think it's a big deal, but clearly this was a mistake (minor mistake) on Nebrich's part.

Coach P (as with his predecessor, and many other coaches) is more interested in collecting information than dishing it out. I assume he would like his QB to respect that no matter how trivial we may find the information.

 

[BlueMAB]

How do you know the coach told him this was a secret though? The coach has simply said he won't reveal the starter until gametime. Also, I see that statement as less of a strategical observation, and moreso a statement on the fact that Coach P didn't know which QB would win out.

How do you know that was a "fact", rather than your belief Coach P didn't know which one would win out.

Why would the coach repeatedly tell reporters he isn't naming a starter until game time, and then tell the QB's it's okay if they make an announcement?

 

[Jax Husky]

How do you know that was a "fact", rather than your belief Coach P didn't know which one would win out.

Why would the coach repeatedly tell reporters he isn't naming a starter until game time, and then tell the QB's it's okay if they make an announcement?

I didn't say is was a "fact", but that I saw the statement as a fact. My post states clearly (I believe) that it was my belief. I also do not see where Nebrich names a starter.

 

[BlueMAB]

I didn't say is was a "fact", but that I saw the statement as a fact. My post states clearly (I believe) that it was my belief. I also do not see where Nebrich names a starter.

You've only made your opinion more confusing to understand. Let's try and stay away from using the word "fact" if you're not talking about "facts", that will probably help avoid confusion.

If you want to play the semantics game, Coach P also didn't say if he was definitely going to play one, two, or three QBs. We now know he'll play at least two.

The larger point, which shouldn't be difficult to understand, is that the coach is keeping the information private (for whatever reason), and Nebrich has violated that. It shouldn't matter on Saturday, but it's a bad habit to get into, don't you think?

 

[Husky7793]

I don't see any mention of MN's QB status on his Facebook Wall or Fan Page. So, either he took it down (good move), or it was never there in the frst place, or I'm too stupid to find it (equally possible). However, from the original post it sounds like word may have gotten out via a Tweet he made. That wouldn't be good either because his Twitter account is locked, and you need his permission to communicate with him that way. Technology aside, this is about trust and confidentiality, and sometimes you have to learn those lessons the hard way. I already went through this with my 19 yr old son who thought nothing of putting my recent unemployed status on his Facebook Wall. I only found out about that from another family member a few days later. He won't be doing anything like that again.

 

[Jax Husky]

You've only made your opinion more confusing to understand. Let's try and stay away from using the word "fact" if you're not talking about "facts", that will probably help avoid confusion.

If you want to play the semantics game, Coach P also didn't say if he was definitely going to play one, two, or three QBs. We now know he'll play at least two.

The larger point, which shouldn't be difficult to understand, is that the coach is keeping the information private (for whatever reason), and Nebrich has violated that. It shouldn't matter on Saturday, but it's a bad habit to get into, don't you think?

I absolutely think it is a bad habit, but also think that we don't know for sure what Coach P has told the team to keep secret. I'd guess that, if Nebrich wasn't supposed to say anything, he wouldn't have. I don't see the Coach's statement to the media a week ago as necessarily meaning he wanted to "keep it a secret". We don't know what he is telling the team, and it very well may be different from what he tells the media. I would suspect that, if asked today, he would disclose the starter for tomorrow.

 

[mattp]

keep in mind, when he said we wouldn't know until opening game, that game was to be played last night. if he did it for motivation in practice, the secrecy may have outlived it's usefulness and maybe that's why he told them who would be starting.

that all being said kids nowadays really do need to start keeping things to themselves. i don't think kids realize how dangerous this can be to them. this rant has nothing to do with Nebrich, or anyone on the team, but it seems like in general whenever someone age 12-25 does anything they have to announce it to the world. am i the only grump that likes to keep everything to myself? this morning you have Bruschi saying that he'd intentionally work Foster's injury if he was still playing since it was tweeted, you have people's houses getting broken into b/c they tell the world their on vacation on their facebook, and way down the line you have a Fordham coach with a better idea how to prepare for this saturday.

 

[upstater]

Good God. I hope he doesn't get suspended for telling the world what the coaches did not want revealed.

What is it with young people and technology? Seriously. A juror somewhere got sent to jail for a few nights for contempt because he "friended" a party to the suit he was trying. Why is it so hard for young people to understand that statements made and acts taken via social media are part of real life, and not part of a reality TV show or whatever.

The weirdest thing is that the accused ratted out the juror. If I were on trial, and a juror expressed romantic interest in me, I'm not sure I would hold it against the juror.

 

[upstater]

Well, this is a little less serious than the juror case. Although frankly, the party to the case should also have been disciplined for accepting the juror's friend request instead of reporting it to the authorities. But in any case, it's Fordham. They really don't gain much from knowing Nebrich is starting the second and fourth quarters. They still don't know who's starting the first and third, so they'll be preparing for Nebrich, McEntee, and McCummings, which is exactly what they should have been doing anyway. And even if they did know who was starting, do you think they'd win?

OT: why is it incumbent for someone on trial to report that a juror is friending them? (BTW, the accused did report the friend request, but I don't see why she couldn't have kept her mouth shut on it).

 

[Husky68]

Hmmmmm. Judgement under pressure seems like a big deal for a QB. Judgement here, if true, under no pressure, sure seems a bit weak. Depending on the understanding between P and the QB's, this should have repercussions if "no tell 'till tip off" was the rule. If Maryland, probably put him on scout team, if Ohio State, probably make him count to ten and miss next team tattooing, if Miami probably cut his lap dance allowance; not sure what P will do.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Hmmmmm. Judgement under pressure seems like a big deal for a QB. Judgement here, if true, under no pressure, sure seems a bit weak. Depending on the understanding between P and the QB's, this should have repercussions if "no tell 'till tip off" was the rule. If Maryland, probably put him on scout team, if Ohio State, probably make him count to ten and miss next team tattooing, if Miami probably cut his lap dance allowance; not sure what P will do.

While on the surface your statement makes sense, in practice it is not always valid. Kenny Stabler was one of the better QB minds of his era (especially in critical situations) yet in his personal life he was infamous for poor decision making (he nearly killed himself scuba diving one summer and riding a motorcycle another offseason). Being able to respond positively in the heat of the moment during a football game does not necessary indicate that he will make wise choices when he is in the real world with time to think through his decisions.

 

[Gregory Koch]

OT: why is it incumbent for someone on trial to report that a juror is friending them? (BTW, the accused did report the friend request, but I don't see why she couldn't have kept her mouth shut on it).

Because the jurors are not supposed to associate with the involved parties during the trial, with the exception of what is necessary in court. And had the defendant not reported it, she could have been punished as well. So at the very least, the answer is to avoid punishment if the judge and/or plaintiff/prosecution found out about it. As for the justification of the law, if a juror is friends with the defendant on Facebook, that could bias him or her towards said defendant. Which is not a fair trial. So if there were no law about juror-party communication, perhaps the defendant would have been wise to keep her mouth shut. But she would be legally obligated to report something like that, as it is considered tampering, and rightly so. Did the juror deserve to go to jail for it? Probably not, although he should definitely have been kicked off the jury and replaced. And probably fined too. But that's besides the point.

 

[uconnftbl33]

I don't see any mention of MN's QB status on his Facebook Wall or Fan Page. So, either he took it down (good move), or it was never there in the frst place, or I'm too stupid to find it (equally possible). However, from the original post it sounds like word may have gotten out via a Tweet he made. That wouldn't be good either because his Twitter account is locked, and you need his permission to communicate with him that way. Technology aside, this is about trust and confidentiality, and sometimes you have to learn those lessons the hard way. I already went through this with my 19 yr old son who thought nothing of putting my recent unemployed status on his Facebook Wall. I only found out about that from another family member a few days later. He won't be doing anything like that again.

1.His grandma wrote on his wall saying that she heard he might be playing and his response/comment was: "Michael Nebrich yup im starting the 2nd and 4rd quarters!"
2.Comment on his his status latest: "Michael Nebrich Starting 2nd and 4th quarter coach Hoskins"

 

[weyuo]

I would hope that by now Coach P has decided on a starter and he's not going to keep dragging the rest of the offense through this QB carousel. I would also hope that Nebrich has a little more between the ears and leaking out info on Facebook is a tactic and not just some freshman brain fart.

 

[UCDaveD]

#1 Good for Nebrich, I'm happy for him and very curious to see what he can do.

#2 Some of the responses in the thread make me want to knock myself out on a concrete wall.

 

[2Infinity]

You've only made your opinion more confusing to understand. Let's try and stay away from using the word "fact" if you're not talking about "facts", that will probably help avoid confusion.

If you want to play the semantics game, Coach P also didn't say if he was definitely going to play one, two, or three QBs. We now know he'll play at least two.

The larger point, which shouldn't be difficult to understand, is that the coach is keeping the information private (for whatever reason), and Nebrich has violated that. It shouldn't matter on Saturday, but it's a bad habit to get into, don't you think?

You are so correct Wing! It's the coach's decision whether or not, and when, to release this kind of information. Since he has announced to the media over the last two weeks plus, that he won't name a starter until just before game time, then that has to be respected by ALL of his players, not just most of them. If he were to allow the player to release the information, then he would be passing along the judgement as to the importance of the information, whether the player knew if it was strategic in nature or not! To me, that is part of the coach's responsibility and prerogative, not the player's.

 

[CTMike]

#1 Good for Nebrich, I'm happy for him and very curious to see what he can do.

#2 Some of the responses in the thread make me want to knock myself out on a concrete wall.

Haha... had no idea the Situation was a UConn fan.

 

[Husky7793]

uconnftbl33-ok, so you or someone else who got the info has to be a FB "friend" of MN's. I can't see it and neither can anyone else unless MN granted them "friend" status. So, I guess it comes down to his decision to make this information public and whether or not Coach P wanted it public or not. Not the end of the world but, personally, I think MN could have informed his grandma the "old fashion" and more personal way, via the telephone. I get it though . . . he's 19, and has worked his butt off and made big personal sacrifices to get to this point. I can only imagine how I'd act if I was told by my college head coach, and former NFL coach, that I would play QB as a true freshman on opening day for a team that just played in a BCS game. Let's hope he can channel that enthusiasm into on-the-field success tomorrow. I'm sure hoping he can.

 

[BlueMAB]

1.His grandma wrote on his wall saying that she heard he might be playing and his response/comment was: "Michael Nebrich yup im starting the 2nd and 4rd quarters!"
2.Comment on his his status latest: "Michael Nebrich Starting 2nd and 4th quarter coach Hoskins"

Thanks for posting that.


Like I said earlier, minor mistake. Kid is excited to be playing, good for him. Email grandma next time.

 

[upstater]

Because the jurors are not supposed to associate with the involved parties during the trial, with the exception of what is necessary in court. And had the defendant not reported it, she could have been punished as well. So at the very least, the answer is to avoid punishment if the judge and/or plaintiff/prosecution found out about it. As for the justification of the law, if a juror is friends with the defendant on Facebook, that could bias him or her towards said defendant. Which is not a fair trial. So if there were no law about juror-party communication, perhaps the defendant would have been wise to keep her mouth shut. But she would be legally obligated to report something like that, as it is considered tampering, and rightly so. Did the juror deserve to go to jail for it? Probably not, although he should definitely have been kicked off the jury and replaced. And probably fined too. But that's besides the point.

It's tampering when YOU tamper with a witness. What law are you citing about punishing a defendant who says nothing? I can certainly see that the trial could be overturned, but if anything that would HELP the defendant. Not a fair trial? Fair trial's are a burden for the state and the prosecutor, not the defense. The defendant is entitled to a FAIR TRIAL. Not the reverse. Is there a law?

 

[BlueMAB]

It's tampering when YOU tamper with a witness. What law are you citing about punishing a defendant who says nothing? I can certainly see that the trial could be overturned, but if anything that would HELP the defendant. Not a fair trial? Fair trial's are a burden for the state and the prosecutor, not the defense. The defendant is entitled to a FAIR TRIAL. Not the reverse. Is there a law?

+1

 

[RedStickHusky]

If you want to play the semantics game, Coach P also didn't say if he was definitely going to play one, two, or three QBs. We now know he'll play at least two.

Actually, since the alleged posts or tweets make no mention of the first and third qtr, you don't really know anything more than that MN will play. You may have more confidence in your previous assumption that three will play since, with the potential for red shirting, he seemed the most likely to sit out.

 

[jpm25]

If you follow Jesse Joseph on twitter, you would know he is not playing tomorrow.

 

[BlueMAB]

Actually, since the alleged posts or tweets make no mention of the first and third qtr, you don't really know anything more than that MN will play.

Edsall is gone, we'll definitely have a quarterback on the field for all four quarters.

 

[businesslawyer]

It was a civil trial, not a criminal trial. And any party risks contempt sanctions if they have improper contact with a juror and don't report it, even if they don't initiate it. The judge gives people instructions as to how to behave at the beginning, and can punish those who don't comply.

It's good to be king

 

[upstater]

It was a civil trial, not a criminal trial. And any party risks contempt sanctions if they have improper contact with a juror and don't report it, even if they don't initiate it. The judge gives people instructions as to how to behave at the beginning, and can punish those who don't comply.

It's good to be king

you know what they say... if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does it make a sound?
someone sends me an email or friend request, I might not even notice. It's happened before.

Then again, what are the consequences of NOT friending him?

 

[sportsart]

It will be tough to beat this thread for "hijacked thread of the year"

The trophy please.