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IMind said:
Even if you just count the Pitino era... he's been coaching them since 2001. You'd think they would have put one star in to the league in the last decade.
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Very true. I thought Jennings would have had a chance, but no. Samuels was a waste of time. Glad he didn't come to UConn. I also forget that Pitino was there for that long. Thank God he left the Celtics, what a disaster.
 
After digging a little more... they do have Pervis Ellison, Darrell Grififith and Wes Unseld... but that's about it.
 
Sort of like Louisville, what about Michigan State? Zach Randolph is a beast, when he feels like it, Richardson and Peterson had decent careers, but those guys were drafted 12 years ago. Since then basically nothing, despite being constant national contenders.
 
Inyatkin said:
Sort of like Louisville, what about Michigan State? Zach Randolph is a beast, when he feels like it, Richardson and Peterson had decent careers, but those guys were drafted 12 years ago. Since then basically nothing, despite being constant national contenders.
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..and despite the media playing it up that Izzo only gets under the radar/blue collar guys because his players usually end up staying all 4 years, Izzo gets studs and is one of the best recruiters in the Midwest.
 
upstater said:
What I wrote was poorly written. It was George and Smith who had the cup of tea--- note no Oxford comma. (i.e. if I had written "Burrell, George, and Smith," that would mean Burrell had a cup of tea. Then again few people use the Oxford comma any more.
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Bloody academics. Always weaseling out of things on technicalities...
 
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aceboon said:
..and despite the media playing it up that Izzo only gets under the radar/blue collar guys because his players usually end up staying all 4 years, Izzo gets studs and is one of the best recruiters in the Midwest.
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Pretty much has Michigan on lock down, and that's a nice pool for talented tough guys.
 
intlzncster said:
Bloody academics. Always weaseling out of things on technicalities...
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I did say it was poorly written. But judging from the writing of my academic colleagues these days, that's not a surprise.
 
Inyatkin said:
Sort of like Louisville, what about Michigan State? Zach Randolph is a beast, when he feels like it, Richardson and Peterson had decent careers, but those guys were drafted 12 years ago. Since then basically nothing, despite being constant national contenders.
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They did have Steve Smith though who was a real nice nba player. Even had an all-star appearance and was on the olympic team I believe.
 
UConn Esq said:
They did have Steve Smith though who was a real nice nba player. Even had an all-star appearance and was on the olympic team I believe.
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He was drafted in 1991
 
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In the mid 2000s uconn had a legit claim as #1, now with some guys older and others not panning out as well as predicted, it may be in the 5-10 range (though I'll still argue for higher).

I think UCLA and Texas will definitely be considered around uconns general area, with Kevin love, Russell, Durant, Aldridge, and then more bit players.

it's rough for us uconn fans when you look around 05-06, ray was still elite, rip and Caron were very good all star level players, emeka and Ben looked like stars, and the Rudy Marcus josh Hilton class was very promising. That's a HUGE contingent of HIGH level NBA ball. Kemba and Drummond have to carry the torch now...

edit: forgot ab chuck V and thabeet, our level of busts/underperformers has increased way too much...
 
UConn Esq said:
So then he would count. It's draft year 1989 forward.
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OK, but my point was they haven't had any top-quality NBA players since Randolph. It sure sounded like you were responding to that by citing Steve Smith.
 
Inyatkin said:
OK, but my point was they haven't had any top-quality NBA players since Randolph. It sure sounded like you were responding to that by citing Steve Smith.
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Ah I gotcha.. i was just trying to add him to the potential MSU roster for this articles sake. If the article is really just trying to make the best 5 man roster from a school since 1989.. Steve Smith is pretty quality 2-guard to complement Zach Randolph and co
 
The fact that UConn in 2013 was second in alumni combined salaries in the NBA shows that we have to be close to the top of this list. Especially when you consider our combined salary was 15 million dollars higher than #3 (Florida) and only 1.2 million dollars behind #1 (Duke) even though Duke has 5 more players in the NBA currently.

Clearly we have serious elite talent in the NBA
 
My guess at the top 5:

Duke
Kentucky
UNC
UConn
Florida
 
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intlzncster said:
Duke's pipeline may be broad, but it is overrated in terms of talent. What really lifted them is Grant Hill, Deng and guys like Boozer and wrinkle head. And rent-a-players like Irving and Rivers are BS imo. Magette was alright.

But they've had more duds than we have: Laettner, Hurley, Jay Williams (don't matter the reason), Dunleavy, Duhon, Singler, Thomas, Ewing, Sheldon Williams...

Got to give credit to that anus JJ Redick. He made himself into a decent role player.
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While I despise dook, I have to concede they do produce NBA players. They may not make headlines but they do know how to milk the pedigree for a few seasons. Coach K produces team concept players, playing within their limitations (i.e. role), which helps longevity. After all he does know about coaching and player development (not necessarily NBA development) but players do seem to leave better than they came in.

Note: Please forgive me for defending them, it won't happen again.
 
Kitaman said:
While I despise dook, I have to concede they do produce NBA players. They may not make headlines but they do know how to milk the pedigree for a few seasons. Coach K produces team concept players, playing within their limitations (i.e. role), which helps longevity. After all he does know about coaching and player development (not necessarily NBA development) but players do seem to leave better than they came in.

Note: Please forgive me for defending them, it won't happen again.
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Well it helps to have about 30 McDonald's All Americans during that time frame.
 
HooperScooper said:
Well it helps to have about 30 McDonald's All Americans during that time frame.
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Exactly. It's the old maxim: Coach K does less with more, while JC does more with less.

Also, I'm not sure how much they (most of them) develop as individuals over their time at Duke. They do learn how to play in the framework of Duke basketball and get better at that over their normal 3-4 years.
 
intlzncster said:
Exactly. It's the old maxim: Coach K does less with more, while JC does more with less.

Also, I'm not sure how much they (most of them) develop as individuals over their time at Duke. They do learn how to play in the framework of Duke basketball and get better at that over their normal 3-4 years.
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to be fair jc got aa too
 
Kitaman said:
While I despise dook, I have to concede they do produce NBA players. They may not make headlines but they do know how to milk the pedigree for a few seasons. Coach K produces team concept players, playing within their limitations (i.e. role), which helps longevity. After all he does know about coaching and player development (not necessarily NBA development) but players do seem to leave better than they came in.

Note: Please forgive me for defending them, it won't happen again.
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For the amount of top 100 players they get year after year they have well under produced in the NBA mid-high rated players.
 
How many players has Coach K put in the NBA who wasn't a burger AA?
 
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Chin Diesel said:
How many players has Coach K put in the NBA who wasn't a burger AA?
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Another way to look at it is how many Duke recruits are named to the burger game just because they commit to Duke?
 
I'm as big a proponent of Calhoun being considered K's equal as anyone, but diminishing K's accomplishments because he gets McDonald's All-Americans is dumb. He's a fantastic developer of talent.
 
champs99and04 said:
I'm as big a proponent of Calhoun being considered K's equal as anyone, but diminishing K's accomplishments because he gets McDonald's All-Americans is dumb. He's a fantastic developer of talent.
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That's the point. I don't actually think he's a great developer of talent. I think he's a very, very good coach, who knows how to make a group of kids play well together, be team first, and play exceedingly hard (and hug). That's his skill set. But making better basketball players? He's closer to average in that department imo.
 
intlzncster said:
That's the point. I don't actually think he's a great developer of talent. I think he's a very, very good coach, who knows how to make a group of kids play well together, be team first, and play exceedingly hard (and hug). That's his skill set. But making better basketball players? He's closer to average in that department imo.
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Yeah, Coach K is an average developer of talent. You realize how ridiculous that sounds?

The guy has the most wins in NCAA history.
The guy has four national titles.
He has his team in contention every single season.

There is absolutely nothing about K that is close to average... except Final 4 games against Calhoun!
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Yeah, Coach K is an average developer of talent. You realize how ridiculous that sounds?

The guy has the most wins in NCAA history.
The guy has four national titles.
He has his team in contention every single season.

There is absolutely nothing about K that is close to average... except Final 4 games against Calhoun!
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Not sure you can prove otherwise despite how it sounds CHB? Developing from McD's AA and developing from Top 150 are worlds apart....he's a great coach but there's plenty of names coming from the program who would seem to prove he has a history of marginal improvement if at all....it could be on the kids themselves I guess?
 
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