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But Kia Nurse doesn't even make 3rd team All American? Come on!!!!

Something is very wrong here.

Which player would you knock off 3rd team in favor of Nurse?

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Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State, G, 6-foot-1, senior
2017-18: 19.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 48.5 field goal percentage

Megan Gustafson, Iowa, F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 25.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.1 BPG

Marie Gulich, Oregon State, C, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 17.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 2.8 BPG

Jordin Canada, UCLA, G, 5-foot-6, senior
2017-18: 16.8 PPG, 6.9 APG, 3.2 SPG

Lexie Brown, Duke, G, 5-foot-9, senior
2017-18: 20.1 PPG, 4.4 APG, 3.5 SPG
 

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Not so sure I understand who you would demote in favor of Sophie. I think Cunningham had a very good year for Mizzou but on the third team her position of Guard is covered by 3 people-Lexie Brown (no way Sophie is better than her), Victoria Vivians (again, that shouldn't even be a discussion) or Jordin Canada, as a senior who had a good year and was pre-season consideration. I am not sure Sophie had a better year than Jordin. Gulich and Gustafson played different positions and both had great years. Mizzou is better than Iowa but Gustafson split Big10 player of the year with Mitchell (coaches and sportswriters). Gulich is a center on a strong OSU team. So who do you leave off?
 
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This is laughable because the storytellers have been spinning it toward her player from before the season started so she has nothing to complain about. What she should be concerned about is her team and her coaching. If it was all about numbers then Mitchell should get it as neither team won everything and we all know that doesn't mean either are the best players.
Like the team winning everything has to do with the best player in the country. I think Diana Taurasi won it once when UConn did not win it all. (Facts) Also, Lebron is still widely acclaimed as the best player though he does not have the supporting cast this year to win it all. Hint: It is a player award, not what team has won it all award. Clue: Kelsey Plum
 

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And yet you ignore the fact that I was questioning why she is complaining hmmm.
 
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Which player would you knock off 3rd team in favor of Nurse?

Options are:
Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State, G, 6-foot-1, senior
2017-18: 19.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 48.5 field goal percentage

Megan Gustafson, Iowa, F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 25.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.1 BPG

Marie Gulich, Oregon State, C, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 17.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 2.8 BPG

Jordin Canada, UCLA, G, 5-foot-6, senior
2017-18: 16.8 PPG, 6.9 APG, 3.2 SPG

Lexie Brown, Duke, G, 5-foot-9, senior
2017-18: 20.1 PPG, 4.4 APG, 3.5 SPG
While this won't be popular here, and I love Kia Nurse's play and hard work especially on defense, I personally don't see her replacing any of these five players.
Yes they are not going to put four U Conn players amongst the top fifteen but when you just look at talent and performance, I'm sorry to say Nurse isn't a better player than any of those five.
This doesn't minimize her rather significant contributions to this U Conn team. But being the fourth or maybe the fifth or sixth best player on your team doesn't lead to being in top 15.
Yes it's unfair that she may well not qualify for the Wall, any fan of U Conn women's team appreciate her and her work.
Bronx23
 

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Which player would you knock off 3rd team in favor of Nurse?

Options are:
Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State, G, 6-foot-1, senior
2017-18: 19.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 48.5 field goal percentage

Megan Gustafson, Iowa, F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 25.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.1 BPG

Marie Gulich, Oregon State, C, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 17.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 2.8 BPG

Jordin Canada, UCLA, G, 5-foot-6, senior
2017-18: 16.8 PPG, 6.9 APG, 3.2 SPG

Lexie Brown, Duke, G, 5-foot-9, senior
2017-18: 20.1 PPG, 4.4 APG, 3.5 SPG
Jordan Canada.
 

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Like the team winning everything has to do with the best player in the country. I think Diana Taurasi won it once when UConn did not win it all. (Facts) Also, Lebron is still widely acclaimed as the best player though he does not have the supporting cast this year to win it all. Hint: It is a player award, not what team has won it all award. Clue: Kelsey Plum
A'ja deserves to win POY but you certainly aren't helping her.
Fact checker:
1) DT did not win POY in a season in which UCONN did not win a Championship. Clue: DT was a 3 time champion.
2) Lebron has not won NBA MVP for 5 season now.
3) Kelsey Plum won the POY award largely because she broke the ALLTIME NCAA scoring record.
 
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I wouldn't replace any of those players from the 3rd team for Kia Nurse. She does her role. She hits open shots, can play solid defense, and be an excellent teammate. Not trying to rustle feathers, but she's not an AA. How good would she do if she was the first or second option on a team instead of the 4th or 5th? I'm sure teams don't want to leave her open, but they have to because of all of the other great players. She is going to be a good pro (I believe) because she will have a similar role to the one she has now. (Knockdown shooter and defender.)
 
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I'll rephrase that. If I had a vote, I would vote for the three UConn nominees to be Kia Nurse. Her success this year has been AS worthy IMO. That remains to be seen by whoever picks. The point I was trying to make is that she has other All-Americans ahead of her, so her stats aren't as impressive. I haven't read any comment after mine, so there is a chance that no one replied to me. I just wanted to try to give some reasoning behind my comment. If I had an AA vote, these would be my Huskies... KLS , Gabby, and Kia.
 

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A'ja deserves to win POY but you certainly aren't helping her.
Fact checker:
2) Lebron has not won NBA MVP for 5 season now.

You are misreading the poster you quote. They wrote " Lebron is still widely acclaimed as the best player". That is true and that is not the same as being the MVP. See, for example, this article: MVP or not, LeBron James is the best basketball player in the world

Or this one: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/lebron-james-proved-again-that-hes-the-nbas-real-mvp-051917
 
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You are misreading the poster you quote. They wrote " Lebron is still widely acclaimed as the best player". That is true and that is not the same as being the MVP. See, for example, this article: MVP or not, LeBron James is the best basketball player in the world

Or this one: https://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/lebron-james-proved-again-that-hes-the-nbas-real-mvp-051917
I'm not misreading or misquoting anything. The post was about A'Ja being player of the year in college which I correctly equate to the MVP in the NBA. When the "best player" in the world doesn't win an MVP in 5 seasons, maybe he is not!
 
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Which player would you knock off 3rd team in favor of Nurse?

Options are:
Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State, G, 6-foot-1, senior
2017-18: 19.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 48.5 field goal percentage

Megan Gustafson, Iowa, F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 25.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.1 BPG

Marie Gulich, Oregon State, C, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 17.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 2.8 BPG

Jordin Canada, UCLA, G, 5-foot-6, senior
2017-18: 16.8 PPG, 6.9 APG, 3.2 SPG

Lexie Brown, Duke, G, 5-foot-9, senior
2017-18: 20.1 PPG, 4.4 APG, 3.5 SPG
As much as I like Nurse I can't justify removing any of these kids in favor of Kia. A reminder - SI put Gustafson on their 1st team.
 
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Not sure what Dawn is worried about. Wilson will win most, if not all, of the NPOY awards. I don't know what she is getting at with "storytellers", but the narrative was written for Wilson before the season even started.
Might things change if SC does not win the NC?
 

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Now there is something Dawn should be pissed about. All about Miss St.
 

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