Enoch Doing Well

[jibsey]

Even though most care not what he’s doing he’s playing almost 20 minutes per game. About 10 points, 5 boards, second on team in blocks per game, shooting 56% fg and 82% from the line. Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time) because he would still be on the team if he had the PT and coach support I truly believe. BTW This is against better competition in the ACC and Louisville is now in the top 25. I expect to be trashed for this.

 

[Stainmaster]

Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time)

Without even touching the transferred player obsession - Brimah was a better player at the time, and it wasn't even close.

 

[QDOG5]

And we're off....

 

[Austin316]

Good for him... not much else to say. Norwalk kid that is trying to make a name for himself. Is what it is.

 

[Chief00]

Even though most care not what he’s doing he’s playing almost 20 minutes per game. About 10 points, 5 boards, second on team in blocks per game, shooting 56% fg and 82% from the line. Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time) because he would still be on the team if he had the PT and coach support I truly believe. BTW This is against better competition in the ACC and Louisville is now in the top 25. I expect to be trashed for this.

With Chief you are singing to the choir. Losing Steve was a huge loss. So many well intended casual fans just don’t understand the importance of Bigs. Somehow if they don’t resemble a guard something is deemed to to wrong.

 

[Stainmaster]

With Chief you are singing to the choir. Losing Steve was a huge loss. So many well intended casual fans just don’t understand the importance of Bigs. Somehow if they don’t resemble a guard something is deemed to to wrong.

Your logical fallacy is strawman

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

So many well intended casual fans just don’t understand the importance of Bigs. Somehow if they don’t resemble a guard something is deemed to to wrong.

You know I'm a big Chief guy but absolutely no one thinks this.

 

[Madmannsucks]

With Chief you are singing to the choir. Losing Steve was a huge loss. So many well intended casual fans just don’t understand the importance of Bigs. Somehow if they don’t resemble a guard something is deemed to to wrong.

Nothing to do with "casual" fans. Even the most casual observer could see he was a liability in Storrs.

 

[Madmannsucks]

Without even touching the transferred player obsession - Brimah was a better player at the time, and it wasn't even close.

Correct.

 

[Chief00]

You know I'm a big Chief guy but absolutely no one thinks this.

My friend, read the posts below yours as one fan carries on a conversation with himself.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Even though most care not what he’s doing he’s playing almost 20 minutes per game. About 10 points, 5 boards, second on team in blocks per game, shooting 56% fg and 82% from the line. Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time) because he would still be on the team if he had the PT and coach support I truly believe. BTW This is against better competition in the ACC and Louisville is now in the top 25. I expect to be trashed for this.

If Enoch wanted to look for a villain all he had to do was look in the mirror.
I never saw a kid sabotage his minutes by fouling himself to the bench simply because of his own poor work ethic. His inability to stay on the floor forced Ollie to use Durham who was still rehabbing from his second ACL or kill Brimah
on what became a 7 man rotation..
The also had to give minutes to a lightly regarded guard out of NYC as the super sub on that team.
He was a guaranteed starter as a junior playing as many minutes as he could so minutes were not the reason he left. He wanted to screw KO and got his wish .
The only problem I have was the Enoch’s of the world as their brothers careers where collateral damage in their vindictiveness. Jackson’s departature made it even more difficult to hide our weak 5 .
Chief is right he screwed the team over big time by leaving and completely blindsided KO , who I’m sure would have been recruiting over him if he had an inkling.
We were left with having to throw lowly regarded 18 year old kids into the toughest schedule we’ve played since Big East days . The additions non starters like Cobb, KW ,and DO were desperation adds to fill that hole.
I was the biggest Enoch booster on the board as I saw the offensive moves and raw power of a growing kid. So no one was disappointed in him more than me.
Posting about his modest success as a grown man in my opinion is the same as a trolling.

 

[Mano]

Oh why do we torture ourselves so?

 

[Fan4ever]

Have to give credit where it's due. Perhaps the tenure in Storrs was an awakening for SE. Looking at him now, he has worked his off to get into great shape. Perhaps this was also in part due to a new coaching and oversight regimen? However it manifested itself, its fantastic for a young man that wanted to bleed Husky blue.

 

[imno1]

Even though most care not what he’s doing he’s playing almost 20 minutes per game. About 10 points, 5 boards, second on team in blocks per game, shooting 56% fg and 82% from the line. Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time) because he would still be on the team if he had the PT and coach support I truly believe. BTW This is against better competition in the ACC and Louisville is now in the top 25. I expect to be trashed for this.

Pretty similar stats to Carlton.

 

[awfuldan]

He's already scored more points at Louisville than he did in two seasons at UConn.

Good for him. I'll root for the kid for sure.

 

[borninansonia]

21. Louisville Cardinals

Chris Mack has brought a new system, new identity and new feel into The Ville, and the team and community are responding. The Bilastrator thinks it is the hair, but reasonable minds might disagree on that. Jordan Nwora is one of the best players in the ACC, and Steven Enoch is an NBA-caliber athlete with a terrific shooting touch. The keys have been togetherness and Christen Cunningham, one of the prime examples of why transfers should not be discouraged. Cunningham was a grad transfer from Samford, where he would have played in obscurity. Yet he transferred to Louisville and is respected nationally for his game and his character. Can only coaches aspire to move?

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[BlueDogs]

Wild thought- maybe he wasn’t being developed here, which seems to have been a consistent pattern under KO.

 

[intlzncster]

Even though most care not what he’s doing he’s playing almost 20 minutes per game. About 10 points, 5 boards, second on team in blocks per game, shooting 56% fg and 82% from the line. Shame he couldn’t get past Brimah in the starting lineup ( I screamed myself hoarse at the time) because he would still be on the team if he had the PT and coach support I truly believe. BTW This is against better competition in the ACC and Louisville is now in the top 25. I expect to be trashed for this.

Leaving aside better coaching, one of the biggest reasons he's doing better is because he had a year off to develop, mentally and skillwise. He desperately needed that at UCONN but would not have gotten it.

 

[Robertelamin]

The environment was toxic so I can’t blame him for leaving but I wish he actually produced a little while he was here.

 

[Chief00]

Wild thought- maybe he wasn’t being developed here, which seems to have been a consistent pattern under KO.

Additionally, quite frankly, his position coach left a lot to be desired and he hindered Steve’s development.

 

[Matrim55]

I'll say it before and I'll say it again: Steve wanted to be a Husky for life and would've been if things under Ollie hadn't gone to hell. I'm thrilled to see him doing well, I'll always root for him and I wish him the best.

 

[Pudge]

Cuts both way

The few that remember: I saw the talent Enoch had. Quick strong hands. Athletic talent with feel. For a big man.

He did not play for Calhoun who would have roasted him. The Mediocre Uninspired Play. Sure Coaching. But ... Stephen didn’t impress with his own work ethic and effort.

I’m pleased he improved and impresses now. That’s a good thing.

 

[upstater]

I don't think anyone here wanted him to move on. Of course they could use him.

But this is effectively his 4th year in college.

People grow. What was Hilton Armstrong like his 4th year? What about his 2nd year? Night and day. I wouldn't want 2nd year Hilton starting over Amida either.

 

[jibsey]

This was a KO problem because he was married to the notion that he was going to win another championship with Brimah who was getting thrown to the floor like a rag doll for 4 years. I never said Enoch was great but he had offensive feel and touch and was a solid body. He was the future as it stood for us, the only future offensive 5 we had. Him and Carlton at the 5 would have filled in the black hole., but he needed coaching, encouragement and floor time which never happened then of course his father got involved when he wasn’t used as much. As far as stats go Carlton has disappeared against better opponents but I would have still liked to see him paired with Steve. Woulda complimented each other.

 

[Madmannsucks]

Additionally, quite frankly, his position coach left a lot to be desired and he hindered Steve’s development.

All down hill from Howie D and then Clyde Vaughn. He has paid his price, I wish they would bring Vaughn back.

 

[Chin Diesel]

All down hill from Howie D and then Clyde Vaughn. He has paid his price, I wish they would bring Vaughn back.

Some women in Hartford wish he'd come back too.

Was a huge Clyde Vaughn fan when he played at Pitt. Would watch him play and try to mimic his moves.

 

[Madmannsucks]

Some women in Hartford wish he'd come back too.

Was a huge Clyde Vaughn fan when he played at Pitt. Would watch him play and try to mimic his moves.

OMG, I really LOL's at that. You know 20 bucks doesn't go as far as it used to. Yeah I remember he played with Sam Clancy on his team.

 

[boog204]

All three transfers were very talented players and in many ways it's the biggest indictment on KOs performance after 2014. 2 of the 3 actually transferred up and are completely different players and in Vance we have heard a great deal about KOs lack of interest in coaching him. Obviously, a year + of practice/evolution is evident, but even the most casual of the casual could see that there was talent that was not being cultivated or inspired. With those 3 here we are a top 20 team.

 

[mauconnfan]

All three transfers were very talented players and in many ways it's the biggest indictment on KOs performance after 2014. 2 of the 3 actually transferred up and are completely different players and in Vance we have heard a great deal about KOs lack of interest in coaching him. Obviously, a year + of practice/evolution is evident, but even the most casual of the casual could see that there was talent that was not being cultivated or inspired. With those 3 here we are a top 20 team.

Love ya boog but to me hardly an indictment on KO the coach at all. Every one of them would be the same at UConn as we speak if they were here. The stats are a bit overrated in these cases considering they are all 2 years older and have matured in many ways.

Enoch - huge game against UNC and still that 9/5 guy no doubt would've been at least the same here with KO coaching. He still plays awful D or he wouldn't get just 20 minutes a game but he has that same weakness. Let's blame the kids sometime.

Jackson - His 3pt% is down and he shoots a lot, only gained .15 on his overall % which is 10 under 50. His defense is awful if you've watched him but he does rebound no doubt.

Durham - always liked him the most but why just 14 minutes? Not a great ND team and his 6.3/4.5/3.3 are nice for 14 minutes but what does he lack in order no to play more?

Alls I am saying is the improvement for all is only over 2 years but some things, which we deem to be on the coach, have not changed at all. I'm certainly not saying that KO was good for them or for UConn the last couple of years. What I am saying, just like I did in the past, sometimes these kids need to take responsibility too and it looks like most of them are the same players with more time to get some numbers. Now having gone there we WOULD be a top 25 team with these 3 I have no doubt because no matter what they lack they make up for everything we don't have (shooting, rebounding, blocking shots etc). So the only indictment on KO is whatever happened to lose all of them and I don't know the answer to that as it seems all are different cases. This tells us how much we lack with what KO left Danny up front.

 

[jibsey]

All three transfers were very talented players and in many ways it's the biggest indictment on KOs performance after 2014. 2 of the 3 actually transferred up and are completely different players and in Vance we have heard a great deal about KOs lack of interest in coaching him. Obviously, a year + of practice/evolution is evident, but even the most casual of the casual could see that there was talent that was not being cultivated or inspired. With those 3 here we are a top 20 team.

And even though they were far from perfect players, with development they would go to the heart of our inadequacies in the front court. Who knows how much better our guards would be performing with those guys?