Edsall re Indiana, don't blame me.

[John Greene]

Thanks. I didn't remember (if I ever knew) that the incentives are capped at $150,000 or that they were added to the prior years base.

A full list of Edsall’s incentives
Edsall can earn bonuses for the following achievements:
$10,000 for each win
$2,000 for scoring first in a given game
$2,000 for leading at halftime of a given game
$2,000 each for leading the opposing team in any of the following offensive categories:

• Points per possession
• Number of times in the red zone
• First-down efficiency
• Total offense

$2,000 each for leading the opposing team in any of the following defensive categories:

• Sacks
• Tackles for loss
• Points per possession
• Turnover margin
• Third down efficiency
• Red zone efficiency

Additional bonuses for average points per game over a full season

• 25-29 ppg — $20,000
• 30-34 ppg — $25,000
• 35-39 ppg — $30,000
• 40+ ppg — $50,000

And for points per game allowed over a full season

• 0-10 ppg — $50,000
• 11-15 ppg — $40,000
• 16-20 ppg — $30,000
• 21-25 ppg — $20,000
• 26-30 ppg — $10,000

$10,000 for ranking in the top six in the American Athletic Conference in each of the following offensive categories:

• Total yards per game
• Rushing yards per game
• Receiving yards per game
• Red zone efficiency

$10,000 for ranking in the top six in the AAC in each of the following special-teams categories:

• Punt return yardage
• Kick return yardage
• Punt coverage
• Kickoff coverage

I now know why the budget is so far in the red. How many assistant AD's does it take to keep track of all this?

 

[huskymedic]

Does anyone recall the last time we scored a touchdown from the red zone?

Illinois

 

[uconnell]

Illinois

Was it really this year? Whatever they did right , do it again!

 

[uconnyankee]

You should be careful about wishing Edsall gone. You just might get your wish. Consider that UConn hasn't got a snowball's chance of replacing him with someone better. Not since the University hit the football program over the head with a large rock and is currently holding it face down in a pool of water waiting for the thrashing to stop. Denials like "What rock?" and "Who's thrashing?" aren't what you could call credible.

Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't left already, having been submarined like he was. If he is riding this job to retirement, the Administration has only itself to blame.

speaking frankly... where is edsall going? maryland isn't coming through that door knocking.

 

[RSTuthill]

Unless he can show an upward trend line. If not I think Benedict hires one or more coordinator for him (probably OC) like what he did with Diaco.

I think he needs four wins to keep his job. That will give him 8 wins total over three years and no bowl compared to Disco's 11 wins and one bowl. But the trend will definitely be up. That means the games v USF, UMass, and ECU are critical. Maybe Houston is in reach also.

Three wins, thus a total of 7, a bit more than half of Disco's 11, and no bowl, will probably get him replaced. October 5 will be very interesting.

 

[crewbear742]

speaking frankly... where is edsall going? maryland isn't coming through that door knocking.

He might just go home and retire. He's made a lot of money. He should be financially secure. He certainly didn't come to UConn for the salary. I don't understand why he would stay after he was so obviously deceived by his employers. I wouldn't assume it's because he doesn't have viable options. Maybe he just feels loyalty to his recruits.

What is important to understand is this. UConn cannot do better. A quality coach is not going to come to UConn under the conditions currently specified.

 

[huskymedic]

What is important to understand is this. UConn cannot do better. A quality coach is not going to come to UConn under the conditions currently specified.

There are many quality/smart coaches that will take the job/challenge (coaches all have big egos) but the overwhelming vast majority of the BY and fanbase will be “WHO and FROM WHERE?”.

(I do think Edsall gets the full 5 unless something bizarre happens - flipping out coaches every 3 years isn’t the answer imo).

 

[Bongo Fury]

Could have sworn Whipple was announced to be HC at UConn once. Agree Edsall not here for the money hence the lower salary. Legacy or something like that. Think he was still getting paid by MD when he came here.

 

[Husky68]

and if that doesn't work, we have an audition in Storrs or the QB in game 5. And then, we bring D Williams back to play QB and after that .... we rotate someone in a play at a time. Such great reads here

I guess there is no set of results that will get some fans to question HCRE2.0's handling of the team to date. Year 1 starting QB lasts 1/2 of 1st game. Year 3 starting QB lasts 1 game and when replacement freshman QB has a 9.4 QBR he keeps his starting position. Sounds like PP with Johnny M. after the Vanderbilt game. See lot of parallels between PP and HCRE2.0; both had success earlier and got fired later in careers, both out of college for a while, both run very basic run/pro style offense with inferior offensive talent and both make strange picks for QB. Making of OL coach the OC by HCRE2.0 is like PP with his sidekick.

But look at the results, no one else could have gotten UConn to 5-22 over the last couple of years. That even includes 2 FBS wins. I'm stoked for UCF, got to win us that trophy game.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

No attack here Whaler, I like that you preface not defending him and then proceed to do so! Agree.....
The coaching staff can only do so much with what they have at this point. He probably said that to fend off those that can't take the truth call it throwing the players under the bus. 27 point underdogs and there were people expecting an upset or even a closer game was simply silly at this point.

The announcer man at least twice mentioned their O line averaged 6'5" 326lbs, anyone who has seen our team in real life knows we don't match up to that. There were key players hurt, replaced by freshmen.
Some are posting like we are still in the old Big East and think we are still getting the same level players. The ones we got then had to be given time and coached up and who we get now even more so.

Coming up, 42 point dogs to UCF, can't wait to see threads like Missed Opportunity or Why? No rocket science needed on this at all. We lost a great RB coach to a bigger school, lost a OC to the NFL, not replacements one can pull out of a hat to come here. This is not all on Randy.....

Their OLine was double teaming both DTs. Curious to see how we rotate the DLine going forward.

 

[Pudge]

How people say it's not all on Randy when he's the guy leading the program is comical. He is in control of HIS program - he has to sell it to potential coaches, sell getting better salaries to the AD, sell the conference/opportunity to recruits, hire the right strength guy, etc, etc.

Admittedly, I don't think he's a good coach, so I have a bias, but the above is true for any coach, because if you're the boss man you own it. Every. Single. Bit of it.

Goodness I'd rather flounder around with a young kid at coach who's trying to figure it out than RE at this point.

I always think - the kids should be waring Spotbilt shoes and RE and staff should be wearing the polyester Bike coaching shorts and all have crew cuts.

Move the guy into some role in the AD (quality control - was that his gig with the Lions) so the guy isn't without a paycheck, but goodness this cluster is 100% on him so fix it.

I had more fun with BD because I'd at least laugh at the goofy stuff he said - boy that's a statement I never thought I'd say.

We had a Young Kid as Coach. It was a classic whiff. He lacked confidence ... didn’t know either positional recruitment nor what market UCONN should Fish ... hires poor offensive strategists ... and we stunk as we were boring.

I’m not telling anyone to shut up. Yell. Be loud. Care. But the first HCRE 1.0 is a good standard ... he can’t do much without lines, depth, defensive playmakers. I don’t know who is preferable ... both PP & Diaco were wrong. I like the Leipold at Buffalo or Creighton at Eastern Michigan. A guy wins big at the lower division. At UConn, you have to develop players. You’re not gonna sell 4 & 5 Stars over B1G.

 

[uconndogs]

I think Edsall inherited a team devoid of talent with a total lack of speed. Diaco's recruiting was beyond horrendous.

I think it's fair to question why Crocker was hired and retained and the defense was allowed to be bad in historical terms. I think it's also fair to question whether the whole thing had to get to this point. It's fair to hang that on Edsall.

I have little doubt he is improving the athleticism of this program and overall talent level from the abysmal level he inherited. He'll improve the program, but I don't know if the patience is there with the fan base.

 

[Northbound]

We had a Young Kid as Coach. It was a classic whiff. He lacked confidence ... didn’t know either positional recruitment nor what market UCONN should Fish ... hires poor offensive strategists ... and we stunk as we were boring.

I’m not telling anyone to shut up. Yell. Be loud. Care. But the first HCRE 1.0 is a good standard ... he can’t do much without lines, depth, defensive playmakers. I don’t know who is preferable ... both PP & Diaco were wrong. I like the Leipold at Buffalo or Creighton at Eastern Michigan. A guy wins big at the lower division. At UConn, you have to develop players. You’re not gonna sell 4 & 5 Stars over B1G.

I’m guessing that the goofy bastard, BD, has a better record at the end of this year that RE2.0.

The program under RE2.0 isn’t REstorred, its REvolting and REdiculous.

 

[Pudge]

I’m guessing that the goofy bastard, BD, has a better record at the end of this year that RE2.0.

The program under RE2.0 isn’t REstorred, its REvolting and REdiculous.

Win Loss

But Diaco blew up the foundation. The bathrooms are sketchy. The house was shaky. The deferred maintenance would take any successor years to rebuild. Edsall has a very functional mindset and Roster recruitment. For all the whining here about bringing in FCS players ... kids actually develop in a HCRE system. When we saw them last week, we were woefully exposed as not B1G level lines & playmakers. At one point - say 2004-2008 - we were. There’s no mystery: we only have about a handful of opportunities for top kids in NE & NY. Contrary to an earlier post discussion, you need GA & FL. And QC. And that’s also not top studs immediately.

If we sunset Edsall today ... we are better off than when he arrived. Or PP exit. 7/8 DBs. Young DL. The major knock - frankly - RE hasn’t grabbed the GR transfer or pure transfer route as much as he should.

I’m sorry we are all discouraged. And we have a DAUNTING AAC schedule upcoming.

 

[Chief00]

Ummm, didn't HCRE2.0 PICK "JZ" as the starter?

Didn't HCRE2.0 have 2 years to bring in QB's? The experienced guy he brings in and makes 1st game starter, gets hurt and is assumedly ok to play again and can't beat out a freshman who played all but one series in the Indiana game and had a QB rating of 9.4.

Why not start SK against Illinois (is he really that bad/unready), if he plays like JZ played in the Indiana game "he had his chance as next guy up" and you go to JZ or put the 1st game starter in against Indiana if he's ok. HCRE2.0 has boxed himself into playing JZ until the kid really, really blows up (since Indiana was not blowing up enough as he is still the starter).
Boy I hope JZ really has "IT" 'cause he is going to need it against UCF.

It’s RE’s program, he has a OL coach as OC. It’s what he’s chosen and what he is responsible for.

 

[Chief00]

So much for his OC connecting with the QB.

 

[huskymedic]

Alex Putterman @AlexPutterman 22h
Edsall said he could have done a better job preparing Zergiotis, who seemed a little flustered.

So much for his OC connecting with the QB.

You just said above - its's Edsall's program and his responsibility?

 

[Northbound]

Win Loss

But Diaco blew up the foundation. The bathrooms are sketchy. The house was shaky. The deferred maintenance would take any successor years to rebuild. Edsall has a very functional mindset and Roster recruitment. For all the whining here about bringing in FCS players ... kids actually develop in a HCRE system. When we saw them last week, we were woefully exposed as not B1G level lines & playmakers. At one point - say 2004-2008 - we were. There’s no mystery: we only have about a handful of opportunities for top kids in NE & NY. Contrary to an earlier post discussion, you need GA & FL. And QC. And that’s also not top studs immediately.

If we sunset Edsall today ... we are better off than when he arrived. Or PP exit. 7/8 DBs. Young DL. The major knock - frankly - RE hasn’t grabbed the GR transfer or pure transfer route as much as he should.

I’m sorry we are all discouraged. And we have a DAUNTING AAC schedule upcming.

Yes, we are all discouraged, that is one thing we all can agree on.

The university cut loose a coach that won a national title because of poor performance. Now, he was dopey enough to break rules that gave the university a “with cause” out, but we all know it was because the program was going in the wrong direction.

I just don’t believe that RE should be immune to that same scrutiny and result.

And I realize the barometer for success at each program is wildly different.

 

[gioff2323]

I’m guessing that the goofy bastard, BD, has a better record at the end of this year that RE2.0.

The program under RE2.0 isn’t REstorred, its REvolting and REdiculous.

You clearly did not watch the last year under goofy Bob. Once Paul's guys graduated or frankly realized what he was at Navy, he was done. Let's not EVER suggest we'd be better off with that a$$clown again

 

[gioff2323]

I am not sure what value there is to arguing whether we would be better off if RE did not come in as the hard he has always been when he starts somewhere and, instead, allowed for a transition, including more PT to Diaco's guys en route to 3-9 records. I truly don't. I get that your upset with the program, but they have been very transparent with this thing - this is a complete rebuild with next decade firmly in mind. You can continue to fight it, but there is no turning back now. If we are not playing in a bowl in 21, he should be fired. Everyone, including RE, knows it is his program. And everyone knows he will never seek what he perceives to be a shortcut. Trusting the process sucks, but there is no argument we are bringing in better players now than we did with prior regime.

 

[ktuck911]

What are you talking about? The guy is a coward, what does Edsall being a coward have to do with boot camp?

Hold 19 year olds to a standard he won't hold himself to...I've never dealt well with frauds.

So you don't think 19 year olds at other FBS schools aren't made to be accountable for their actions? You don't think that exists? I'm not sure where the coward part comes to play in the point Edsall is trying to get across.. I really don't. I've seen his show before (the first time he was here). Same guy... He called out guys... Got them to grow and man up a little more. That's the idea.. If that's not what you're seeing then I don't know what else to tell you. Focusing on just words he says (the talk) and not the actions (the walk) just doesn't make sense when you're talking FBS level football and beyond.. Just doesn't.. not to me anyways...

 

[ktuck911]

You clearly did not watch the last year under goofy Bob. Once Paul's guys graduated or frankly realized what he was at Navy, he was done. Let's not EVER suggest we'd be better off with that a$$clown again

Amen

 

[ktuck911]

So much for his OC connecting with the QB.

That, to me , might be the BIGGEST issue for us... HOLDING ON TO our Coordinators! We gotta get guys (coaching wise) who's primary responsibility is to run either our offense or defense... hell, BOTH! Stick around for awhile...

 

[uconndogs]

You clearly did not watch the last year under goofy Bob. Once Paul's guys graduated or frankly realized what he was at Navy, he was done. Let's not EVER suggest we'd be better off with that a$$clown again

This is exactly right. DB had to move Diaco out. Diaco was in no way ready to lead a program and we are paying an immense price for his complete inability to assess, recruit and develop talent.

P was a different story. He lost the program and I have no idea why, but he did. You don't get canned along with your key guy four games into a season unless something is dramatically wrong...........and something must have been dramatically wrong.

Criticize Edsall if you want, but comparing him to those two makes no sense to me.

 

[noeynox]

I don’t care where the school gets the money to hire a GOOD coach! Just get it. Fire some of the overbloated ADMINISTRATORS in the Athletic Dept. There has to be somewhere we can reduce the $72 million from the budget to come up with $2-3M.

I’m not ready to lose football. This school does things so axe backwrds it drives me crazy. They can’t seem to get anything right... . Hiring Herbst! Benedict! Ollie.Pasquloni. Disco. All got paid good $$$. We found the money then. You don’t always get what you pay for.

Sorry for the rant. I am so upset. I am 84 and I would lime to see a good competent football coach before I leave this earth and a good football winning team.

You're 84, and know how to use the internet this well? God Bless you.

 

[superjohn]

So you don't think 19 year olds at other FBS schools aren't made to be accountable for their actions? You don't think that exists? I'm not sure where the coward part comes to play in the point Edsall is trying to get across.. I really don't. I've seen his show before (the first time he was here). Same guy... He called out guys... Got them to grow and man up a little more. That's the idea.. If that's not what you're seeing then I don't know what else to tell you. Focusing on just words he says (the talk) and not the actions (the walk) just doesn't make sense when you're talking FBS level football and beyond.. Just doesn't.. not to me anyways...

Redirect Notice

Maybe you're a new fan of the program and never heard about this.

If that's not the case I can only infer you are okay with gutless behavior and want a guy to hold kids to a completely different standard than they hold themselves to.

 

[ktuck911]

Redirect Notice

Maybe you're a new fan of the program and never heard about this.

If that's not the case I can only infer you are okay with gutless behavior and want a guy to hold kids to a completely different standard than they hold themselves to.

and maybe you're the guy that never wanted him back since your focus is on an article from 2011 when he left for a better opportunity (at the time)...
I think we need to agree to disagree...Your point is moreso about what he did when left instead of what he did when he was first here and he's trying to re-establish (with, again, less talent than others)...

 

[gioff2323]

Did he not apologize for that as his 1st order of business when rehired? I’m sorry you can’t let go of what all agree was a very poor move on his part, but at some point you have to move on. For your own sanity.

 

[Pudge]

Frankly guys … nobody was happy under Jeff Hathaway. He just was not a fit for OUR Cash Cow times. How he consistently annoyed the top line HCs AND did not significantly have success raising CAPITAL from our State U stakeholders is amazing. It was a period of just … Zzzzz. Or maybe the comparable is the Disco era that existed when I was on campus.

 

[Northbound]

@gioff2323 goodness you need reading comprehension classes.

Where did I say we'd be better off with BD - I'll wait for that in quotes. I've stated that 1) at least he was goofy enough to make me laugh after games with his hair brained ideas and I've also said that 2) it's likely that BD will have a better record after 3 years than RE2.0. Point 1 is a fact, point 2 we'll see at the end of the year.

In Randy's ENTIRE coaching career he's had TWO, TWO winning records in conference. Think about that, out of 16 seasons when his teams were in a conference he's had a winning record twice - 13% of the time. That's the guy you want to die on the hill fighting for - jesus you have low expectations.