Edsall re Indiana, don't blame me.

[superjohn]

@gioff2323 goodness you need reading comprehension classes.

Where did I say we'd be better off with BD - I'll wait for that in quotes. I've stated that 1) at least he was goofy enough to make me laugh after games with his hair brained ideas and I've also said that 2) it's likely that BD will have a better record after 3 years than RE2.0. Point 1 is a fact, point 2 we'll see at the end of the year.

In Randy's ENTIRE coaching career he's had TWO, TWO winning records in conference. Think about that, out of 16 seasons when his teams were in a conference he's had a winning record twice - 13% of the time. That's the guy you want to die on the hill fighting for - jesus you have low expectations.

He's objectively a horrible coach, there is no getting around the eye test and the numbers. As for his character, do as I say not as I do.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I think Edsall inherited a team devoid of talent with a total lack of speed. Diaco's recruiting was beyond horrendous.

I think it's fair to question why Crocker was hired and retained and the defense was allowed to be bad in historical terms. I think it's also fair to question whether the whole thing had to get to this point. It's fair to hang that on Edsall.

I have little doubt he is improving the athleticism of this program and overall talent level from the abysmal level he inherited. He'll improve the program, but I don't know if the patience is there with the fan base.

I agree he has improved the talent....but by how much? Will they be a competitive FBS school in 1 or 2 years? Meaning...maybe 40-60. Or...Will all this work just result in the team not being historically bad and they are ranked around 100?

Either way, he will get the chance to do it. He isn’t going anywhere this year...even if they don’t win another game. The only way he loses his job is if the team gives up on him like they did PP. I don’t see that happening.....so I agree with HM...he will get 5 years.

 

[uconndogs]

I agree he has improved the talent....but by how much? Will they be a competitive FBS school in 1 or 2 years? Meaning...maybe 40-60. Or...Will all this work just result in the team not being historically bad and they are ranked around 100?

Either way, he will get the chance to do it. He isn’t going anywhere this year...even if they don’t win another game. The only way he loses his job is if the team gives up on him like they did PP. I don’t see that happening.....so I agree with HM...he will get 5 years.

totally agree with all that

 

[uconnell]

I guess there is no set of results that will get some fans to question HCRE2.0's

But look at the results, no one else could have gotten UConn to 5-22 over the last couple of years. That even includes 2 FBS wins. I'm stoked for UCF, got to win us that trophy game.

I don’t believe that no one could have gotten UConn to 5-22 wins. You don’t know that either.

 

[uconnell]

You're 84, and know how to use the internet this well? God Bless you.

Thanks! I’m old not brain dead. Just trying to save myself from boredom.

 

[Waquoit]

Did he not apologize for that as his 1st order of business when rehired?

I was there. Not really.

 

[uconnell]

I was there. Not really.

I was there also, I thought he did.

 

[tiger8mush]

It’s RE’s program, he has a OL coach as OC. It’s what he’s chosen and what he is responsible for.

He was given a decent salary with which to attract a quality OC and he told Admin no, he'd prefer the OL coach (with zero OC experience) do double-duty? That is what he chose?

 

[AAC Guru]

He was given a decent salary with which to attract a quality OC and he told Admin no, he'd prefer the OL coach (with zero OC experience) do double-duty? That is what he chose?

That’s not true. He had Dunn as OC and agreed to give him 150k raise from his salary because the budget was evidently that tight. Dunn ended up leaving to coach TE’s for the Jets.

 

[Hoophound]

This whole low pay thing is a dumb discussion. We weren’t paying decent money when we hired Edsall because of the Diaco buyout. Edsall understood that and wanted the job anyway.

We continue to pay poorly because there has been a presidential change and there is an ongoing sense that we may not have the right head coach in place. In order for Randy and staff to be paid market, they have to produce clear progress in the win column. Until then, no rash decisions will be made to pay the staff more. The funds will be preserved to pay a new staff or to pay Randy and Co., once they earn the faith of the administration and Board. This is the truth. UConn does not intend to continue paying below market salaries to football coaches in perpetuity. They just won’t waste money on another bad coach. They’ve learned. This is a conscious decision coming from the very top and frankly, I’m fine with it.

 

[uconnyankee]

He might just go home and retire. He's made a lot of money. He should be financially secure. He certainly didn't come to UConn for the salary. I don't understand why he would stay after he was so obviously deceived by his employers. I wouldn't assume it's because he doesn't have viable options. Maybe he just feels loyalty to his recruits.

What is important to understand is this. UConn cannot do better. A quality coach is not going to come to UConn under the conditions currently specified.

I love when people speak in absolutes out their arse.... Uconn cannot do better? seriously?
there are probably a couple hundred boneyarders that think they could do better than edsall.

 

[Husky68]

I don’t believe that no one could have gotten UConn to 5-22 wins. You don’t know that either.

You got I was being sarcastic right?

 

[Chief00]

You just said above - its's Edsall's program and his responsibility?

The OC is on the staff that Edsall chose. The staff is an extension of him. If the OC doesn’t have some connection to the QB then it’s a problem. This isn’t that hard.

 

[Chief00]

Frankly guys … nobody was happy under Jeff Hathaway. He just was not a fit for OUR Cash Cow times. How he consistently annoyed the top line HCs AND did not significantly have success raising CAPITAL from our State U stakeholders is amazing. It was a period of just … Zzzzz. Or maybe the comparable is the Disco era that existed when I was on campus.

Basically, Hathaway was Lew’s Administrative Assistant and when Lew left the coaches said great - elevate this guy and we can continue doing what we did when Lew was here. Unfortunately, power corrupts some people and the Administrative Assistant never had any strategic vision about anything other than getting himself some free wheels. Instead he managed stupid, meaningless stuff that annoyed people and got in the way.

 

[crewbear742]

there are probably a couple hundred boneyarders that think they could do better than edsall.

Yeh. You better hope they can do better because "a couple hundred boneyarders" is exactly the population from which the next football coach will be drawn if Edsall leaves.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

The OC is on the staff that Edsall chose. The staff is an extension of him. If the OC doesn’t have some connection to the QB then it’s a problem. This isn’t that hard.

Your disdain for RE is causing you to reach on this. Engaging a high profile alumni like Dan O is nothing but a good thing here.

There is plenty to get upset about with the program without reaching on this.