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sdhusky said:
I look at the offense and I see:

Sheriffs is a better passer than Frazier and not quite as good of a runner as Lorenzen but better than either. Edsall can win with BS

Newsome is as good or better than some backs who thrived under Edsall.

The TE core is good enough and the WR's are good enough.

How bad is the offensive line? How much is talent and how much is coaching? Do we need a total rebuild or can Edsall get these guys to medicore?
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Edsall even acknowledged the amount of TE's they have, so I'm assuming he'll actually make use of them rather than use them as depth chart decoration.
 
sub legacy said:
Edsall even acknowledged the amount of TE's they have, so I'm assuming he'll actually make use of them rather than use them as depth chart decoration.
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I want to know who recruited all those TE's - maybe they should stick around. How do you convince that many kids to come here to play TE when there's already a dozen of them and we didn't even use them?
 
It's going to be tough road back, but I do have faith in HCRE. Just having a competent coach on game day would have been worth 3 more wins last year. We'll have to see, but I'm hopeful that next season we'll play much more competitive football.
 
sub legacy said:
Edsall even acknowledged the amount of TE's they have, so I'm assuming he'll actually make use of them rather than use them as depth chart decoration.
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JMick said:
I want to know who recruited all those TE's - maybe they should stick around. How do you convince that many kids to come here to play TE when there's already a dozen of them and we didn't even use them?
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Returning TE/F players per roster:

Bloom (TE)
Chris Lee (TE)
Rhakim Williams (TE
Myers (F)
Davis (F)
Holman (F)
 
huskymedic said:
Returning TE/F players per roster:

Bloom (TE)
Chris Lee (TE)
Rhakim Williams (TE
Myers (F)
Davis (F)
Holman (F)
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Convert any of them to DE? Holman and his martial arts skills might thrive there.
 
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How about a call to Jay Rose? Did we ever get the full story on him?
Could have just been he saw how screwed up Fiasco was right away
 
huskysupporter said:
Actually it's about the caliber of the player.
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We went through this whole debate in Randy Part 1. If he recruited so well UConn would have done better against WVU, Cincy and Michigan. UConn had limitations. I admit Randy found some underrecruited players, but he would have done better with better recruiting. College football 101: recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Right now, I'd settle for BC,or Rutger recruits.
 
king conn said:
How about a call to Jay Rose? Did we ever get the full story on him?
Could have just been he saw how screwed up Fiasco was right away
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If I remember correctly word was his heart wasn't into what it would take at this level and there was also talk of a girlfriend involved in the decision.

If a g/f is in the mix, as far as a decision, then it's probably a good choice not to attempt to compete at an FBS level.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
but he would have done better with better recruiting. College football 101: recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Right now, I'd settle for BC,or Rutger recruits.
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Randy had way way way way way more talent on his rosters than an All Star team of today's BCU and Rutgers teams.
 
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TouchdownHusky said:
We went through this whole debate in Randy Part 1. If he recruited so well UConn would have done better against WVU, Cincy and Michigan. UConn had limitations. I admit Randy found some underrecruited players, but he would have done better with better recruiting. College football 101: recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Right now, I'd settle for BC,or Rutger recruits.
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By saying this you're being dismissive of our records against Pitt, RU, Syracuse, and Louisville.

We didn't recruit great as a BCS school according to the sites, why would you expect that to change as a G5? Let's get back to putting a bunch of kids in the league and we will be fine against the competition we play against.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
We went through this whole debate in Randy Part 1. If he recruited so well UConn would have done better against WVU, Cincy and Michigan. UConn had limitations. I admit Randy found some underrecruited players, but he would have done better with better recruiting. College football 101: recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Right now, I'd settle for BC,or Rutger recruits.
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So, you're of the opinion that the people doing high school recruiting websites know more than NFL people? Because the NFL people clearly thought UConn was recruiting better than a whole stack of schools.
 
sportsart said:
If I remember correctly word was his heart wasn't into what it would take at this level and there was also talk of a girlfriend involved in the decision.

If a g/f is in the mix, as far as a decision, then it's probably a good choice not to attempt to compete at an FBS level.
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I remember that being the rumor, but it always sounded far fetched to me.
What harm would a simple call do is all. Maybe his situation changed?
 
noeynox said:
By saying this you're being dismissive of our records against Pitt, RU, Syracuse, and Louisville.

We didn't recruit great as a BCS school according to the sites, why would you expect that to change as a G5? Let's get back to putting a bunch of kids in the league and we will be fine against the competition we play against.
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No thanks. I don't want Byron Jones's who make it NFL, I want UConn teams to make bowl games, to be the kind of team people get excited about and want to see and teams that gain national recognition.

And, BTW I liked B. Jones. Hes a great young man and athlete.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
No thanks. I don't want Byron Jones's who make it NFL, I want UConn teams to make bowl games, to be the kind of team people get excited about and want to see and teams that gain national recognition.

And, BTW I liked B. Jones. Hes a great young man and athlete.
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nail in the coffin. Ignore is a very useful button
 
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noeynox said:
Post makes no sense.
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Point is: UConn should be more concerned about improving its recruiting to win in college. Gettting to NFL is a by product. I'm sure UConn has more players in NFL than many of the 11 teams in AAC that finished above them.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
No thanks. I don't want Byron Jones's who make it NFL, I want UConn teams to make bowl games, to be the kind of team people get excited about and want to see and teams that gain national recognition.

And, BTW I liked B. Jones. Hes a great young man and athlete.
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wut
 
TouchdownHusky said:
Point is: UConn should be more concerned about improving its recruiting to win in college. Gettting to NFL is a by product. I'm sure UConn has more players in NFL than many of the 11 teams in AAC that finished above them.
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Byron Jones, Geremy Davis, Andrew Adams, Obi Melifonwu, Noel Thomas were NFL caliber players who had the misfortune of playing for a coach in Diaco who sucked, couldn't get plays in time and didn't know how to use timeouts. We need more players like that, not less. Edsall while not your favorite or mine has shown he can win with those caliber of players.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
We went through this whole debate in Randy Part 1. If he recruited so well UConn would have done better against WVU, Cincy and Michigan. UConn had limitations. I admit Randy found some underrecruited players, but he would have done better with better recruiting. College football 101: recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Right now, I'd settle for BC,or Rutger recruits.
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Wait a minute............I want to make sure I've got this..........what you're saying is.........if Randy recruited better his teams would have done better..........

Ponderous man.........wow!
 
noeynox said:
Byron Jones, Geremy Davis, Andrew Adams, Obi Melifonwu, Noel Thomas were NFL caliber players who had the misfortune of playing for a coach in Diaco who sucked, couldn't get plays in time and didn't know how to use timeouts. We need more players like that, not less. Edsall while not your favorite or mine has shown he can win with those caliber of players.
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I agree with you on players. I agree with you on BD (I was one of the first to call for he to be fired . . . last season). I agree with you that we need more players like that (kind of my point). Where we disagree is on Edsall being able to recruit well enough. Also, was it me or did you fail to name a QB on your list? Oh wait, Randy has shown that other than Dan O, he can't recruit top QBs .
 
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king conn said:
How about a call to Jay Rose? Did we ever get the full story on him?
Could have just been he saw how screwed up Fiasco was right away
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In terms of Jay Rose, he wanted to go back home in order to be closer to his gf....no joke. I've heard he plans on playing at CCSU next year
 
uconndogs said:
Wait a minute..I want to make sure I've got this.....what you're saying is....if Randy recruited better his teams would have done better.....

Ponderous man....wow!
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Yes!!!! You got it. No one said he couldn't coach . . . . defense. But watch the excitement in tonight's Rose Bowl . . . nothing about Randy should lead anyone to think his offense will be much better that Bobby-Boy D's.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
I agree with you on players. I agree with you on BD (I was one of the first to call for he to be fired . . . last season). I agree with you that we need more players like that (kind of my point). Where we disagree is on Edsall being able to recruit well enough. Also, was it me or did you fail to name a QB on your list? Oh wait, Randy has shown that other than Dan O, he can't recruit top QBs .
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I'm in no mood to take a chance on an unproven coach. I want to see competence on game days. The UVA game this year and the Boise game his 1st year were 2 home games I really wanted to punch myself in the face in the stands.

I get it about the QBs. P recruited a couple good ones Cochran and Lagow. You want him back?
 
noeynox said:
I'm in no mood to take a chance on an unproven coach. I want to see competence on game days. The UVA game this year and the Boise game his 1st year were 2 home games I really wanted to punch myself in the face in the stands.

I get it about the QBs. P recruited a couple good ones Cochran and Lagow. You want him back?
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P may have recruited them, but in Cochran's case, he didn't put him on the field till he was fired. TJ finally used him and for three games at the end of the season, UConn had an exciting offense and won all three games.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
No thanks. I don't want Byron Jones's who make it NFL, I want UConn teams to make bowl games, to be the kind of team people get excited about and want to see and teams that gain national recognition.

And, BTW I liked B. Jones. Hes a great young man and athlete.
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So do we... but essentially you are saying you want to do it without future NFLers, so we are confused about your overall point.
 
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