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Ziebell was on fire!
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That was a great exhibition of shooting the three. She had a couple open jumpers standing, she had a couple catches and a hop to a shot and the last one going the opposite of the natural shooting direction and none of them really touched much rim. I like how she understands what she is on the three point line for and is ready to complete the play the minute she receives the pass. Pretty nice package in a player that still has a year of HS to perfect her craft.
 
They are screening for her like UConn does for their guards Paige, Lou, Azzi. I like the way she adjusted down to the corner to give the player driving from the opposite baseline a target when she got closed down. She will definately fit in at UConn. Can't you just see KK Crossing over and goin to the hoop and when she gets closed out she kicks it to Allie, Ashlynn and Qadence and they will be raining three's.
 
USA Czech Republic starting now. Czech only loss to Canada 66 - 61 .... should be a good game.

 
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Rowdy831 said:
That was a great exhibition of shooting the three. She had a couple open jumpers standing, she had a couple catches and a hop to a shot and the last one going the opposite of the natural shooting direction and none of them really touched much rim. I like how she understands what she is on the three point line for and is ready to complete the play the minute she receives the pass. Pretty nice package in a player that still has a year of HS to perfect her craft.
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Looks like an outstanding 3-pt shooter we have on the squad now, always ready to square up and drain 3 pointers! What a pair of outstanding recruits we have coming in next year, Allie and Morgan with complementary skills.
 
An observation on Ziebell while watching the Czech game. For kids who have not experienced the faster, more physical international game it can usually take awhile to make all the adjustments and learn to play at that pace. For Ziebell it's been just the opposite. With each game she plays faster with more physicality and quicker decision making, especially on defense. Her hands and feet are really quick. And her BB IQ looks to be very high. This isn't really normal for all kids. It shows how some US HS players have to play in a lower gear matching the slower pace of their winter HS competition. Now that she realizes that she can cut loose and play well at this level I think her development for UConn will really accelerate.
 
BobbyJ said:
An observation on Ziebell while watching the Czech game. For kids who have not experienced the faster, more physical international game it can usually take awhile to make all the adjustments and learn to play at that pace. For Ziebell it's been just the opposite. With each game she plays faster with more physicality and quicker decision making, especially on defense. Her hands and feet are really quick. And her BB IQ looks to be very high. This isn't really normal for all kids. It shows how some US HS players have to play in a lower gear matching the slower pace of their winter HS competition. Now that she realizes that she can cut loose and play well at this level I think her development for UConn will really accelerate.
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I had the same thought... in the exhibition games she looked like she would need another year or two to really compete at this level but now she looks like she more than belongs. Not sure if she scored or did much offensively today (i only watched the first half) but defensively she was so active and disruptive- which she was really struggling with early on. I've been so impressed with Allie and agree she has one of the higher bb IQs on the team.
 
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Future Huskie opponents are going to have to cover the WHOLE offensive zone
when ALLIE is on the floor. I particularly enjoyed the highlight of
Allie circumnavigating the entire offensive zone to get the open
three pointer... looks just like Geno would draw it up!!
P.S. I believe that ALLIE is hitting nine for 15 from three-point land over
the last two games. Allie was three for four today and 6 for eleven against Argentina.
Way to go, ALLIE!
 
The reason she doesn't turn the ball over is that she plays within the offense and doesnt try and drive thru multiple player. Her entry passes are accurate and her defense is pretty good right now. She also goes to the right spot to spread the defense all the time. I really like her game.
 
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Bald Huskie said:
Allie played 20 minutes against Germany, looking much more confident from her first outing. Learning a bit about some of her teammates who were highly regarded players that I have not seen much of. Joyce Edwards is all around the basket, Brea Cunningham is a great rebounder, but the player that impressed me the most was Chloe Kitts. Good all-around game, around the basket, good handle, and can shoot from outside. She also looks taller than I imagined. McMahon is a ball hog, and too much one on one by a few players for my taste. But, my sole major interest is only in Allie and Jana. I just learned during yesterday's game that although there are 3 17 year olds, only Allie won't be moving on to college ball this season. That is a huge complement for her, and I can't wait for her and Morgan to get here in 23-24. She looks like she belongs.
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A small correction here, Allie isn't the only one of the three 17-year-old players who won't be moving on to college ball this season, there's also Joyce Edwards, the youngest of the three. Edwards is also the only one who could be back at the U19 World Championship in two years' time, as she was born in 2006. Allie is 17, but she was born in 2005, so she won't be able to play at the next U19 World Cup. The same goes for Jada, who was born a day before Allie (attachment). Sometimes you have to be wary of a player's class, as it only indicates the year she is finishing. The best example is Jerzi Robinson (class 2026) and Sydney Douglas (6'5 class 2028) who are less than a week apart at birth (attachment), yet when Robinson starts her Junior season in the NCAA, Douglas will be taking her first steps.

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At the risk of sounding ungrateful or churlish, I have to say, the point guard play on the US U 19 team was imo, shockingly poor. PGs are supposed to get the ball to shooters and/or other players in position to score. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen more wild, out of control drives into a crowd! To be fair, they often scored or were rescued by Kitts, Edwards, Booker, or Van Slooten and obviously brought home the gold but it sure wasn’t pretty. They were simply more physically talented than most of the other teams!

I suppose I’m going to be accused of favoritism here but it was truly shocking how many times I saw a PG (all of them) completely ignore (or not see) our Allie with no one within 12 feet of her and rather than passing it to the wide open, best three point shooter on the floor, try some wild reverse left handed scoop shot in the middle of three players 6 inches taller than them!

Obviously, I’m happy for the US team and was certainly impressed by some of the players. Edwards, Kitts, Booker, Van Slooten were all extremely impressive but the play at the point was pretty rough. Hidalgo, though equally afflicted with the reluctance to pass, nevertheless showed that she may be a real treasure for ND. They are going to have a serious PG duo there between her and Miles! Anyway, rant over! I’m proud they won and especially happy for our Allie! Seventeen! The basketball world is her oyster!
 
Cuango said:
At the risk of sounding ungrateful or churlish, I have to say, the point guard play on the US U 19 team was imo, shockingly poor. PGs are supposed to get the ball to shooters and/or other players in position to score. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen more wild, out of control drives into a crowd! To be fair, they often scored or were rescued by Kitts, Edwards, Booker, or Van Slooten and obviously brought home the gold but it sure wasn’t pretty. They were simply more physically talented than most of the other teams!

I suppose I’m going to be accused of favoritism here but it was truly shocking how many times I saw a PG (all of them) completely ignore (or not see) our Allie with no one within 12 feet of her and rather than passing it to the wide open, best three point shooter on the floor, try some wild reverse left handed scoop shot in the middle of three players 6 inches taller than them!

Obviously, I’m happy for the US team and was certainly impressed by some of the players. Edwards, Kitts, Booker, Van Slooten were all extremely impressive but the play at the point was pretty rough. Hidalgo, though equally afflicted with the reluctance to pass, nevertheless showed that she may be a real treasure for ND. They are going to have a serious PG duo there between her and Miles! Anyway, rant over! I’m proud they won and especially happy for our Allie! Seventeen! The basketball world is her oyster!
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Agreed, Allie had the statistical disadvantage of trying to be a good role playing team member, while many of her teammates were looking for the limelight. Almost all of them will need to adjust their game and attitude substantially at the next level. Rice and I think maybe one other player were already in college, but most will not be immediate stars as freshmen, or the first offensive option as they are used to.

Allie may have deferred a little as one of the younger team members, and a player not heading next to college but coming back for her final HS year. But I see it more as someone who had a good grasp of her role, and tried to play it, despite the lack of team play by many teammates. In the long run her approach will serve her well, and in some ways one of the youngest appears to be more mature.
 
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Didn't they cut Kelis in the last round and left them with almost no true PGs? It seemed like they only had combo guards.
 
Cuango said:
At the risk of sounding ungrateful or churlish, I have to say, the point guard play on the US U 19 team was imo, shockingly poor. PGs are supposed to get the ball to shooters and/or other players in position to score. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen more wild, out of control drives into a crowd! To be fair, they often scored or were rescued by Kitts, Edwards, Booker, or Van Slooten and obviously brought home the gold but it sure wasn’t pretty. They were simply more physically talented than most of the other teams!

I suppose I’m going to be accused of favoritism here but it was truly shocking how many times I saw a PG (all of them) completely ignore (or not see) our Allie with no one within 12 feet of her and rather than passing it to the wide open, best three point shooter on the floor, try some wild reverse left handed scoop shot in the middle of three players 6 inches taller than them!

Obviously, I’m happy for the US team and was certainly impressed by some of the players. Edwards, Kitts, Booker, Van Slooten were all extremely impressive but the play at the point was pretty rough. Hidalgo, though equally afflicted with the reluctance to pass, nevertheless showed that she may be a real treasure for ND. They are going to have a serious PG duo there between her and Miles! Anyway, rant over! I’m proud they won and especially happy for our Allie! Seventeen! The basketball world is her oyster!
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Most, if not all, of these kids haven’t even started college yet so you’re basically watching high school games. The players are so enormously talented, their high school coaches probably told their teammates, “Give [the star player] the ball and get out of their way”. So, the kids are playing the way they’ve most likely been allowed, which is lots of one on one stuff. It’s not their fault, it’s what they know how to do. Once they get into college, their style of play will most likely change

As a side note, that’s why Geno loves coach’s kids. They cut the college learning curve down tremendously
 
HuskyNan said:
Most, if not all, of these kids haven’t even started college yet so you’re basically watching high school games. The players are so enormously talented, their high school coaches probably told their teammates, “Give [the star player] the ball and get out of their way”. So, the kids are playing the way they’ve most likely been allowed, which is lots of one on one stuff. It’s not their fault, it’s what they know how to do. Once they get into college, their style of play will most likely change

As a side note, that’s why Geno loves coach’s kids. They cut the college learning curve down tremendously
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All 5 starters plus Londynn Jones have a year of college ball behind them. Other than Lepolo and Ziebell, the rest of the guards don’t understand ball movement and Taylor let them do what they wanted.
 
BobbyJ said:
All 5 starters plus Londynn Jones have a year of college ball behind them. Other than Lepolo and Ziebell, the rest of the guards don’t understand ball movement and Taylor let them do what they wanted.
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Wow, I lost a year somewhere. I could have sworn Chloe Kitts, for example,was just coming out of high school.

I still maintain every game I see looks like a high school/AAU game. Lots of ball-hogging and one one one play with flashes of showing off.

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HuskyNan said:
Most, if not all, of these kids haven’t even started college yet so you’re basically watching high school games. The players are so enormously talented, their high school coaches probably told their teammates, “Give [the star player] the ball and get out of their way”. So, the kids are playing the way they’ve most likely been allowed, which is lots of one on one stuff. It’s not their fault, it’s what they know how to do. Once they get into college, their style of play will most likely change

As a side note, that’s why Geno loves coach’s kids. They cut the college learning curve down tremendously
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The whole starting 5 played in college for a season, as well as some of the bench players. Rice, Van Slooten, Kitts, McMahon, LaPolo and Jones all played last year. Could be forgetting some.
 
I thought Hidalgo played really good in the second half. Not perfect, but made game-winning plays. A nice block, steals, the deflection that stopped them from getting a shot off, transition passes, some drop off passes, a transition pull-up and a 3.
 
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