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ucjoet said:
Maybe I am too optimistic, but I see it the exact opposite. We are probably at top of his list, but he doesn’t ( and shouldn’t) pronounce it to everyone who asks.
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This is it. He almost seems defensive about it--he's probably sick of the questions. I would imagine the IDEA of places like Michigan is probably really appealing. But anyone who thinks we're out of this isn't thinking--the kid wouldn't leave BRISTOL for high school, let alone the state or New England. The hometown school is going to be in it until the end.

If I were his parent, Michigan would have to be high on my list though. Fantastic academics, great basketball and a recent history developing bigs that can pass the rock like Donovan.
 
Road2Five said:
The question was basically what’s going on with Connecticut what do you like about them. Nothing remotely about us being in the lead. You don’t think every recruit gets asked those questions by hometown people? He’s the only one that I’ve seen mention it specifically almost every time when not being asked by a reporter.
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My assumption, and all we can do is see this through our own lens, is that I think it may just be auto pilot. Hear the school UConn (regardless of the detail of the question)...response #3. Hear the school Michigan...response #7. Hear the school Rutgers...mention Pikell. In truth, just my supposition because like everyone else here...making up my own narrative.
 
uconnfan68 said:
This is just wrong. Very good academics, like UConn. 4 NCs since 1999? Nah. Recent history of developing bigs? 1 guy?
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Michigan's academics blow UConn's out of the water. Don't be an idiot. You can't possibly think UConn's academics are on par with UMs. I GO TO UConn and know that. Their endowment is bigger, the town is way better, their undergrad rankings are higher than UConn everywhere you look.

Yes, 1 guy. And the 4 championships don't mean nearly as much as you'd think. It was a different era. Our current coach, as much as I love him, has no history developing NBA bigs. Howard does.

The reason we're recruiting at a high level is because of our brilliant staff and the big east conference. Our history is great for our reputation, but plenty of schools (including Michigan) have a good rep historically.
 
ucjoet said:
Maybe I am too optimistic, but I see it the exact opposite. We are probably at top of his list, but he doesn’t ( and shouldn’t) pronounce it to everyone who asks.
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We think just about writers, but also think about his classmates and friends; some of whom (I hope) are UConn fans
 
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tcf15 said:
I said no such thing...just taking an opportunity to post the guys highlights, although I do disagree with you. And it's the Boneyard, we latch on to the most minute details in a post, regardless of the overall point.
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Were you setting a trap for me by omitting the apostrophe in "guys?" Well played, if so.
 
husky429 said:
Michigan's academics blow UConn's out of the water. Don't be an idiot. You can't possibly think UConn's academics are on par with UMs. I GO TO UConn and know that. Their endowment is bigger, the town is way better, their undergrad rankings are higher than UConn everywhere you look.

Yes, 1 guy. And the 4 championships don't mean nearly as much as you'd think. It was a different era. Our current coach, as much as I love him, has no history developing NBA bigs. Howard does.

The reason we're recruiting at a high level is because of our brilliant staff and the big east conference. Our history is great for our reputation, but plenty of schools (including Michigan) have a good rep historically.
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Does it matter for a basketball player?

Talked to a couple D1 ADs on a sports field this week. Not from my school. Both were talking about the extreme pressures on athletes in the top sports. They now, they know. I should say UM v. UConn academics discussion is impractical. As it stands, the athletes can only choose from a few majors anyway.

Just have a look at the majors of the kids on the rosters now.
 
upstater said:
Does it matter for a basketball player?

Talked to a couple D1 ADs on a sports field this week. Not from my school. Both were talking about the extreme pressures on athletes in the top sports. They now, they know. I should say UM v. UConn academics discussion is impractical. As it stands, the athletes can only choose from a few majors anyway.

Just have a look at the majors of the kids on the rosters now.
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No academics don't matter to most athletes. Their tutors do half the work anyways. That's why my first post said "his parent"
 
husky429 said:
No academics don't matter to most athletes. Their tutors do half the work anyways. That's why my first post said "his parent"
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Case in point about how “Public Ivy” level academic status and athletics have nothing to do with each other- North Carolina
 
husky429 said:
Michigan's academics blow UConn's out of the water. Don't be an idiot. You can't possibly think UConn's academics are on par with UMs. I GO TO UConn and know that. Their endowment is bigger, the town is way better, their undergrad rankings are higher than UConn everywhere you look.

Yes, 1 guy. And the 4 championships don't mean nearly as much as you'd think. It was a different era. Our current coach, as much as I love him, has no history developing NBA bigs. Howard does.

The reason we're recruiting at a high level is because of our brilliant staff and the big east conference. Our history is great for our reputation, but plenty of schools (including Michigan) have a good rep historically.
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Wild how you can’t say anything on this board without irrational responses. You said nothing about UConn but mentioned UM’s academics. They’re a top tier academic school, there shouldn’t be any argument there.

Then it gets into a bunch of further discussion that you never brought up. Super annoying. Let’s not acknowledge that other schools have positives, it’s UConn or you’re an idiot.
 
husky429 said:
This is it. He almost seems defensive about it--he's probably sick of the questions. I would imagine the IDEA of places like Michigan is probably really appealing. But anyone who thinks we're out of this isn't thinking--the kid wouldn't leave BRISTOL for high school, let alone the state or New England. The hometown school is going to be in it until the end.

If I were his parent, Michigan would have to be high on my list though. Fantastic academics, great basketball and a recent history developing bigs that can pass the rock like Donovan.
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Agree. Also if you are planning to take officials to other schools, why would you announce to them that they’re only secondary choices to you?
 
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husky429 said:
Michigan's academics blow UConn's out of the water. Don't be an idiot. You can't possibly think UConn's academics are on par with UMs. I GO TO UConn and know that. Their endowment is bigger, the town is way better, their undergrad rankings are higher than UConn everywhere you look.

Yes, 1 guy. And the 4 championships don't mean nearly as much as you'd think. It was a different era. Our current coach, as much as I love him, has no history developing NBA bigs. Howard does.

The reason we're recruiting at a high level is because of our brilliant staff and the big east conference. Our history is great for our reputation, but plenty of schools (including Michigan) have a good rep historically.
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If you think their academics are so superior, you’re the idiot.
 
uconnfan68 said:
If you think their academics are so superior, you’re the idiot.
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Can you even pump your own gas with this level of critical thinking ability? Good lord. I am aware you are never going to agree with me because you're a turdburglar that won't back down from a fallacious point, but it's a long weekend and I'm in a mood, and happen to have all this data in a spreadsheet right now. So here ya go:

The Center for University Performance
Michigan #6
UConn - #34-50

US News ranking:
Michigan #24
UConn #63

Niche "best academics"
Michigan: #36
UConn: #162

Niche "best colleges"
Michigan: #23
UConn: #158

Niche "best public universities"
Michigan: - #1
UConn: - #48

Wall Street Journal:
Michigan - #23
UConn - #104

Forbes:
Michigan - #20
UConn - #130

Education Corner:
Michigan - #36
UConn - Not in the top 100

Princeton selectivity ranking:
Michigan - 97/99
UConn - 89/99

Princeton top 20 public colleges
Michigan - #10
UConn - outside top 20

TopUniversities.com
Michigan #18
UConn #71

Money best public colleges
Michigan - #1
UConn - #30

Money best colleges overall
Michigan - #4
UConn - #46

CollegeConsensus
Michigan - #15
UConn - Outside top 100

Washington Montly
Michigan - #29
UConn - #87

Acceptance rate:
Michigan - 23%
UConn - 49%

FWIW my fiance got into Yale for her Ph.D. She was rejected from Michigan. UConn is ranked #35. Obviously, grad studies are less relevant here, but it's just more info I happen to have.

And let me repeat: academics don't really matter to these kids. Frankly, the guys we recruit aren't generally the brightest bulbs on the bush.

I go to UConn. I like my classes, enjoy the work, and have had great professors except for one that I really despised. I am not here to disparage out flagship state school, but it is not Michigan. We do not invest in our state schools like they do in other places in this country--it's a totally different game.
 
husky429 said:
Can you even pump your own gas with this level of critical thinking ability? Good lord. I am aware you are never going to agree with me because you're a turdburglar that won't back down from a fallacious point, but it's a long weekend and I'm in a mood, and happen to have all this data in a spreadsheet right now. So here ya go:

The Center for University Performance
Michigan #6
UConn - #34-50

US News ranking:
Michigan #24
UConn #63

Niche "best academics"
Michigan: #36
UConn: #162

Niche "best colleges"
Michigan: #23
UConn: #158

Niche "best public universities"
Michigan: - #1
UConn: - #48

Wall Street Journal:
Michigan - #23
UConn - #104

Forbes:
Michigan - #20
UConn - #130

Education Corner:
Michigan - #36
UConn - Not in the top 100

Princeton selectivity ranking:
Michigan - 97/99
UConn - 89/99

Princeton top 20 public colleges
Michigan - #10
UConn - outside top 20

TopUniversities.com
Michigan #18
UConn #71

Money best public colleges
Michigan - #1
UConn - #30

Money best colleges overall
Michigan - #4
UConn - #46

CollegeConsensus
Michigan - #15
UConn - Outside top 100

Washington Montly
Michigan - #29
UConn - #87

Acceptance rate:
Michigan - 23%
UConn - 49%

FWIW my fiance got into Yale for her Ph.D. She was rejected from Michigan. UConn is ranked #35. Obviously, grad studies are less relevant here, but it's just more info I happen to have.

And let me repeat: academics don't really matter to these kids. Frankly, the guys we recruit aren't generally the brightest bulbs on the bush.

I go to UConn. I like my classes, enjoy the work, and have had great professors except for one that I really despised. I am not here to disparage out flagship state school, but it is not Michigan. We do not invest in our state schools like they do in other places in this country--it's a totally different game.
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This isn’t even a debatable point.
 
CL82 said:
Connecticut: “People think that UConn is already my decision because they are close to home but that doesn’t mean they are. Coach Hurley and his staff have done a really good job of building the program back up and recruiting me.” [Sounds positive to me. He's just acknowledging it's not a done deal.]

Georgetown: “I mean it is Patrick Ewing, he’s a Hall of Fame big man. It is also a good school and I can’t wait to go visit.” [Given how they have struggle. I doubt GT is a leader.]

Michigan: “Juwan Howard was a great big man and Michigan is a great school and a great program that is doing really good things. Also, look at what they are doing with Hunter Dickinson.” [Worrisome he's seriously considering them.]

Notre Dame: “Mike Brey and and his staff are great. I’ve stayed in decent contact with them through all of this traveling. Hopefully I’ll get out there and visit.” [Strictly a tourism opportunity.]

Ohio State: “Coach Holtmann and Coach Diebler I talk to them a lot. They are a real good school. I mean it’s Ohio State and the Big Ten.” [?]

Providence: “Coach Cooley, he was one of the first coaches to offer me, trust me and believe in me from the beginning. He’s a real cool coach, really an even better person than he is a coach. They have a really nice staff over there.” [No commentary about quality of program or looking forward to visit.]

Rutgers: “Coach Pikiell has done a lot for that program. He’s brought them from the dirt into the NCAA Tournament this year. He can coach, he produces good players and I like the school.” [Surprisingly positive.]

Syracuse: “They were the first school to offer so that is always going to mean something. They believed in me and trusted me from the beginning, they have a Hall of Fame coach and they produce good players.” [Always going to mean something? Faint praise. The Fruit is already out.]

“Visiting all eight is the goal. It is just going to be what feels right," said Clingan. "I want to step on the campus and just feel like I want to go here. Also, the coaching staff and who is around me and all of that stuff.”
[I like our chances.]
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husky429 said:
Can you even pump your own gas with this level of critical thinking ability? Good lord. I am aware you are never going to agree with me because you're a turdburglar that won't back down from a fallacious point, but it's a long weekend and I'm in a mood, and happen to have all this data in a spreadsheet right now. So here ya go:

The Center for University Performance
Michigan #6
UConn - #34-50

US News ranking:
Michigan #24
UConn #63

Niche "best academics"
Michigan: #36
UConn: #162

Niche "best colleges"
Michigan: #23
UConn: #158

Niche "best public universities"
Michigan: - #1
UConn: - #48

Wall Street Journal:
Michigan - #23
UConn - #104

Forbes:
Michigan - #20
UConn - #130

Education Corner:
Michigan - #36
UConn - Not in the top 100

Princeton selectivity ranking:
Michigan - 97/99
UConn - 89/99

Princeton top 20 public colleges
Michigan - #10
UConn - outside top 20

TopUniversities.com
Michigan #18
UConn #71

Money best public colleges
Michigan - #1
UConn - #30

Money best colleges overall
Michigan - #4
UConn - #46

CollegeConsensus
Michigan - #15
UConn - Outside top 100

Washington Montly
Michigan - #29
UConn - #87

Acceptance rate:
Michigan - 23%
UConn - 49%

FWIW my fiance got into Yale for her Ph.D. She was rejected from Michigan. UConn is ranked #35. Obviously, grad studies are less relevant here, but it's just more info I happen to have.

And let me repeat: academics don't really matter to these kids. Frankly, the guys we recruit aren't generally the brightest bulbs on the bush.

I go to UConn. I like my classes, enjoy the work, and have had great professors except for one that I really despised. I am not here to disparage out flagship state school, but it is not Michigan. We do not invest in our state schools like they do in other places in this country--it's a totally different game.
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Rankings mean nothing. UConn is better academically.
 
DrZzzz said:
Rankings mean nothing. UConn is better academically.
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Maybe in some given department, UConn would give you a better education. But measuring the education you get is basically impossible to do. It's all about research $, graduation rates, job placement, all that good stuff.

My fiance adjuncts an extra class at a UConn satellite campus to pay for our travel and (in my biased opinion) is a better teacher of content than any college professor I had at any of the 3 schools I've been to. But name matters. If I'm hiring anywhere in this country and see MICHIGAN, it matters. If I'm hiring and see UConn, it means nothing outside of the state of Connecticut. And even then, if we're talking an undergrad degree? I'm not sure I care much about whether a kid went to UConn or Central or UVM--I want to know their grades and what experience they have.

This is a ridiculous argument. Only on the Boneyard do I feel obligated to argue AGAINST the school I attend, for . This place is worse than the cesspool and town facebook pages sometimes.
 
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husky429 said:
Maybe in some given department, UConn would give you a better education. But measuring the education you get is basically impossible to do. It's all about research $, graduation rates, job placement, all that good stuff.

My fiance adjuncts an extra class at a UConn satellite campus to pay for our travel and (in my biased opinion) is a better teacher of content than any college professor I had at any of the 3 schools I've been to. But name matters. If I'm hiring anywhere in this country and see MICHIGAN, it matters. If I'm hiring and see UConn, it means nothing outside of the state of Connecticut. And even then, if we're talking an undergrad degree? I'm not sure I care much about whether a kid went to UConn or Central or UVM--I want to know their grades and what experience they have.

This is a ridiculous argument. Only on the Boneyard do I feel obligated to argue AGAINST the school I attend, for . This place is worse than the cesspool and town facebook pages sometimes.
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Poe's law.
 
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husky429 said:
Maybe in some given department, UConn would give you a better education. But measuring the education you get is basically impossible to do. It's all about research $, graduation rates, job placement, all that good stuff.

My fiance adjuncts an extra class at a UConn satellite campus to pay for our travel and (in my biased opinion) is a better teacher of content than any college professor I had at any of the 3 schools I've been to. But name matters. If I'm hiring anywhere in this country and see MICHIGAN, it matters. If I'm hiring and see UConn, it means nothing outside of the state of Connecticut. And even then, if we're talking an undergrad degree? I'm not sure I care much about whether a kid went to UConn or Central or UVM--I want to know their grades and what experience they have.

This is a ridiculous argument. Only on the Boneyard do I feel obligated to argue AGAINST the school I attend, for . This place is worse than the cesspool and town facebook pages sometimes.
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I think, hope, he was being facetious.
 
Dean Wormer said:
I think, hope, he was being facetious.
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There are so many idiots on here, I can't tell. The opinions I would take as a joke with most people (ie. Michigan is a lesser academic school than UConn) are somehow taken seriously here. I'm pretty sure I could write that Sanogo should be our PG and 15% of this place would agree. I put him on ignore because I am trying to make my Boneyard experience more tolerable... so it's entirely possible he followed up with a clarification.
 
husky429 said:
There are so many idiots on here, I can't tell. The opinions I would take as a joke with most people (ie. Michigan is a lesser academic school than UConn) are somehow taken seriously here. I'm pretty sure I could write that Sanogo should be our PG and 15% of this place would agree. I put him on ignore because I am trying to make my Boneyard experience more tolerable... so it's entirely possible he followed up with a clarification.
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No follow up... he's an idiot.
 
Rocktheworld said:
This belongs on your Mount Rushmore of bad posts. And that’s really really really really really saying something.
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Do you really think the difference is that significant? The hardest part is usually getting in.
 
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