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Donovan clingan version of young nikola jokic?

Former NBA players never think they’re better than the current guys, how strange.
Jokic had more quality passes in a good month than Howard had in his career.

This isn't even factoring in Howard's entire offensive game was put backs.

I will give Howard credit for having a much better body but for his physique he should have played a lot stronger.

Howard is wrong in his assessment.
 
Jokic had more quality passes in a good month than Howard had in his career.

This isn't even factoring in Howard's entire offensive game was put backs.

I will give Howard credit for having a much better body but for his physique he should have played a lot stronger.

Howard is wrong in his assessment.
Howard was on defense what Jokic was on offense. Then vice versa offense and defense.
 
I started the “Clingan upside” thread about a month ago, essentially comparing his game to a poor mans jokic or Walton. Most posters brought same scorn and dismissive comments.

It is a bit much,to compare him to best 2 passing bigs in history . Agreed. but his offensive upside has not been seen by most posters, who think hes a low block only, bad handed edey-type who needs to make his free throws lol. Theyve missed the point. You could see his acumen in high school. This yr uconn will see his offensive game & his passing/iq are going to bring those jokic comparisons pre-draft. But thats his potential upside. Gotta take a step at a time
 
Just because the thread started with overstated comparison doesn't mean it has to end with an understated comparison. Clingan is much, much better than Knight. Clingan would have been a top 20 pick this year if he left.
A truer statement is Clingan has more upside potential than Travis .
But Travis was able to play 25 minutes a game at a pretty high level
That 1996 team really had no backup 5.
We’re pretty sure he can double his minutes and maintain that level but until he actually does you never know for sure .
Stamina or rather lack of it for a guy that big has been the downfall of a few. That one of my big IFs for success next year .
 
I'm going to put myself in the "no" camp.

You're talking about perhaps the most skilled big man in the history of basketball. Clingan is a damn good player... but c'mon Scrappy.
Exactly
 
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Younger Joker… not remotely close

Younger thank Joker… absolutely
 
To the Clingan is a young version of Jokic crowd will Clingan be jogging the ball up the court, pushing the ball up the court on fastbreaks, pirouetting constantly in the lane for 8 foot teardrops, throwing no look lobs, be the main initiator on offense the entire game, shooting one legged jumpers from all over the court, making 83% of his ft's etc?

Scrappy picked basically the one player in history that there hasn't been any player comparison for and you're going along with it.
 
To the Clingan is a young version of Jokic crowd will Clingan be jogging the ball up the court, pushing the ball up the court on fastbreaks, pirouetting constantly in the lane for 8 foot teardrops, throwing no look lobs, be the main initiator on offense the entire game, shooting one legged jumpers from all over the court, making 83% of his ft's etc?

Scrappy picked basically the one player in history that there hasn't been any player comparison for and you're going along with it.
You’re treating the comp too literal. Comps are suppose to be best case projections that no one actually reaches.
 
More realistic maybe a more athletic slightly taller Brooke Lopez (if Clingan really can shoot the ball in game)?
 
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What we are gonna see this year is alot of 5 msn out offense , with DC setting high pick & roll & double screens at top of key. Pick the picker 3 man game. In addition he will receive ball at top of key, to be facilitator whille we run Princeton-like action. This is the spot where adama hit his 3s.

These are also the very sets that jokic thrives in.

Now surround him with the highest iq team we will have had in years. Hes not jokic, but the comparisons are coming.
 
You’re treating the comp too literal. Comps are suppose to be best case projections that no one actually reaches.
Huh?? I thought comps were supposed to be, you know, like, comparable
 
I'm going to put myself in the "no" camp.

You're talking about perhaps the most skilled big man in the history of basketball. Clingan is a damn good player... but c'mon Scrappy.
It's Scrappy, what else would you expect. Not a pessimistic bone in his body.
 
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Walker Kessler was a beast rookie in the nba this season with similar size dynamics to clingan. Tbh they kinda look alike i always thought in play style
 
Im assuming the comparison would be to Jokic when he was a freshman in college, not after ten years in the nba. I don't think he played college ball, so this is all just a fun thread starter.

All y'all need to lighten up.
 
Clingan - Joker
AK - Dirk
Cam Spencer - Luka
Newton - Shai
Castle - Bron

Bench
Solo- Wade
Stewart -Jimmy butler
Ross- Durant
Diarra - CP3

Bring on #6
 
For those that don’t like the Jokic comp, what other big man in the NBA that has good to great passing skills would be a better comp?
 
For those that don’t like the Jokic comp, what other big man in the NBA that has good to great passing skills would be a better comp?
Clingan can pass, but we are aware he averaged less than 2 assists per 40 last year right?
 
Clingan can pass, but we are aware he averaged less than 2 assists per 40 last year right?
I think similar to Hawkins, it was just because of the role he was asked to play.

Hawkins was a spot up shooter as a freshman because of guys in front of him. When the offense was about him we saw his ability to run off screens.

DC was a rim runner last year (rightfully so). I think when the offense is about him we’ll see a lot more of his passing skills. He showcased them some in his draft highlight reel.

 
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Im assuming the comparison would be to Jokic when he was a freshman in college, not after ten years in the nba. I don't think he played college ball, so this is all just a fun thread starter.

All y'all need to lighten up.
Jokic always played like this, he's just a lot better at it now that he's been in the league a long time. He didn't all of a sudden become a point guard trapped in a center's body as an NBA veteran.
 
At least it’s not a Marc Suhr or Dan Cyrulik comparison.
That's a very unfair comparison for Dan, especially if you were at opening night at Gampel in 1990. Sure it turned out to be Dan's career night, but what a night to have it.
And, we wouldn't have won the Big East tournament that year without Dan and Toraino Walker holding their own against Mutombo and Mourning in the semifinal and Owens and Coleman in the final.
 
To the Clingan is a young version of Jokic crowd will Clingan be jogging the ball up the court, pushing the ball up the court on fastbreaks, pirouetting constantly in the lane for 8 foot teardrops, throwing no look lobs, be the main initiator on offense the entire game, shooting one legged jumpers from all over the court, making 83% of his ft's etc?

Scrappy picked basically the one player in history that there hasn't been any player comparison for and you're going along with it.
So it's possible he can do all those things then?
 
For those that don’t like the Jokic comp, what other big man in the NBA that has good to great passing skills would be a better comp?

Before seeing real time how much better Clingan got this offseason, tbh I'd say his best comp is Walker Kessler but trade some defense for some offense, and with higher upside because of it

Clingan could/should be better next year than Kessler was at Auburn (which is a high bar), but Kessler broke out in the NBA averaging 9 PPG, 8 RPG, 2.3 BPG shooting 72% as a rookie

We expect Clingan to go lottery so the expectations are understandably higher, but I think that's our best comp for now and there'd be no shame if that's what he ends up being like.

There is no comp anywhere in America for Jokic, and probably in the history of American basketball. I'm sure there's some Jokic-lite somewhere in Europe that we'll learn about in a few years. Looking forward to see Clingan battle them in the NBA down the line
 
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