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I worried about Hamilton de-committing had we gotten Robinson.

Let's look at who will be starting in a year:

Calhoun is going to start.
Two of these three will start (Cassell, Samuel, Purvis)
Either Hamilton or Robinson had a starting spot had Robinson committed (unless you're sitting Purvis or Cassell). But both Robinson and Hamilton can start as freshman in college

One position is still in flux: Center. That's it! We can't take a top recruit at another position without another already committed recruit feeling like they should de-commit.
 
I honestly thought you guys were going to get this kid, but I do have one question after reading all the things about 3 versus 4. How the heck is a 6'8" 170lb kid a 4 on a high level college team, never mind the NBA? Unless he has no 3 skills whatsoever then I doubt he would be rated this high because a 170lb kid is going to be pushed all over the place. Your new PF can lift one of him in each arm for pete's sake.

Because UConn plays fast and NBA style. Deandre Daniels is the same height and came in at 180 pounds. 170 pounds is this kid's junior weight. Daniels is at the 4 now for UConn.
 
i really don't think deandre is going pro after this year. i loved how he played at the end of last year and hope he continues playing at that level but it was such a small sample size for everyone to think he's going pro.
 
Why do you have to have someone like DeAndre at the PF spot? I like him there, but its not necessary to have someone with his skillset at PF in order to win. We won a title with KFree, an athletic big who could finish inside, get garbage baskets and hit an occasional jumper. We won another title with Josh Boone starting at PF, who had no offensive game outside of garbage baskets and putbacks around the rim. We went to a FF with Jeff, who had a nice back to the basket game and could hit a jumper out to 15 ft. We won another title with Roscoe playing the bulk of the minutes at PF, Roscoe's offensive game was severely limited, he basically floated around on the perimeter on O shooting an occasional deep jumper. None of these guys were anything alike, so I'm not sure why you think going forward for hopefully the next 20 years of KO's coaching career he's going to feature the same type of player as DeAndre at PF.

Also, once again you're making baseless assumptions on players you've never seen play, as long as the NCAA doesn't strip Facey of all of his eligibility he will have a very good career here.
Of course this season will be the aberration to that formula for NC's. :)

It was obvious from the way the staff went after Abu and the various pg's what the priorities were after DHam committed. DHam was probably a surprise get. They wanted Robinson but he became expendable with the DHam commitment.

After the commitment of DHam and Purvis the staff wanted a PG and a PF and the primary targets for that were Abu and Perkins. They kept going down the line to get a PG and PF. I'm guessing the Swift thing was an overlap because the staff was not expecting Lubin to commit so quickly.
 
Of course this season will be the aberration to that formula for NC's. :)

It was obvious from the way the staff went after Abu and the various pg's what the priorities were after DHam committed. DHam was probably a surprise get. They wanted Robinson but he became expendable with the DHam commitment.

After the commitment of DHam and Purvis the staff wanted a PG and a PF and the primary targets for that were Abu and Perkins. They kept going down the line to get a PG and PF. I'm guessing the Swift thing was an overlap because the staff was not expecting Lubin to commit so quickly.
Was just about to type up the same thing. The staff probably expected to be in a few down to the wire races for some wings, but the DHam commitment allowed them to focus elsewhere.
 
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+100

I'm not sure people (or maybe just Tenspro...) realize that Daniels was put at the stretch 4 last year because of absolute necessity and not because that was the look KO necessarily wanted his front-court to have going forward in his career. As Ace rightly pointed out in his last post, when UConn has been it's most successful they've had two traditional big men at the 4 and 5. This idea that the front-court is in trouble because they might not have a 3 playing out of position at the 4 is a bit absurd.

Also, people seem to forget how awful UConn was at rebounding last year. At least some of that had to do with Daniels playing the 4. I'm completely ok with a front-court going forward of Facey, Nolan, Brimah, and Lubin assuming those guys will bang and grab boards.


I agree that DD was put at the 4 because of necessity, but I also think it's our best look going forward. The premier college 4's are guys like Terrence Jones, Otto Porter, our very own Deandre Daniels, who have an array of skills and will be a prototypical 3 in the NBA (LeBron, Carmelo, Durant -- though even those guys have started to play the 4 more often). Those guys aren't 3's playing out of position at the 4. Those guys are what the 4 position looks like in today's college basketball.

We've succeeded in the past with two traditional bigs, but those bigs have been All-American or NBA caliber: Okafor, Villanueva, Boone, Armstrong, Thabeet. Obviously I have no idea how our bigs will develop over the next year, and how the class of 2013 and 2014 will perform, but we're counting on hitting home runs with 2 out of 4 unheralded guys. It's happened in the past, it's not impossible, but I think we're asking for a lot out of them. Getting a guy like Robinson or Larrier would have negated those concerns.
 
i really don't think deandre is going pro after this year. i loved how he played at the end of last year and hope he continues playing at that level but it was such a small sample size for everyone to think he's going pro.


No one knows how good DD will be, if he blows up and gets a lot of media attention, you can be sure that he'll think about it.
 
Amore needs to edit his title!
http://courantblogs.com/uconn-men/k...n-magazine-and-other-huskies-notes-and-links/
Ollie is an Overachiever not an underachiever.

Yeah that makes no sense. Some chubby old guy who writes crappy articles for a newspaper calling Kevin Ollie whom has had great success in college, the NBA and now a head coach for one of the best basketball programs in the country is an underachiever. And dont forget about his servitude and emphasis on the importance of family. Underachiever my a**.
 
UConn is in on a lot of bigs for 2015. Some will be coming for First Night. That being said, it is always very difficult to land a top 50 center. There are only a handful of those.

Hope they can land one of Cheick Diallo, Carlton Bragg, Ivan Rabb, Doral Moore, Moustapha Diagnem, Jesse Govan, Chance Comanche.

I'll bite. There are 50 top 50 centers in a given year..... We have a winner!
 
Rudy would have been an ideal stretch 4. Strong, athletic, can rebound and block shots, no college 4 could guard him around the perimeter. But he never played a minute there. Sticks even more so - I think he saw a few minutes at the 4 his senior year (backing up Gavin) when we tinkered trying to find the right personnel, but he was exclusively a 3 on the Adrien-Thabeet teams.

We should have had a pretty good spread offense with floor spacing last year and guards who can drive, but it was still flawed, since our 5s didn't occupy defenders at all. We could spread the floor with four shooters, and find open driving lanes, but the other team's 5 was always waiting as a one-man zone, so getting to the rim was a challenge. It's more important to have the bigs be guys that can finish (lobs, or quick catches and finishes, little 5-10 footers, etc.) so defenders have to worry about them and be indecisive - maybe be a step or two later sliding over to help. Ben got to the rim a lot with Emeka/Boone - neither of whom stretched the defense much.
 
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Apologies to D$, as I had previously questioned him on this.

Aside from that, I continue to believe people are jumping the gun on DeAndre bolting after this season. He's not a first round pick on any mock board from what I can tell, so it just doesn't quite add up to me. There are a ridiculous supply of wings who are going to be declaring after this season, and Napier, Boat, and Omar are all going to be taking as many shots as him, or close to it. If he puts up 14 and 7 - which seems realistic - he could come back the following season and blow up.

But, we'll find out about that seven months from now. For now - while I'm disappointed in the Devin news - I'm almost relieved in a sense that all the recruiting hysteria for 2014 is over with. Now we can focus on actual basketball, and we figure to be pretty damn good for the next two seasons.

13/14:
Bazz/T-Sam
Boat/Kromah
Omar/Giff
DD/Facey/Tolk
Phil/Tyler/Brimah

14/15, worse case scenario:
Purvis/T-Sam
Omar/Cassell
D-Ham/Tolk
Facey/Lubin
Nolan/Brimah

We're fine.
 
Just recd the following text from my source who heard this straight from DRob's coach.

Lack of connection, logjam at position , not feelin them as much AAC as a conference

Should be taken with a grain of salt since they might be embarrassed that uconn stopped recruiting him
 
Apologies to D$, as I had previously questioned him on this.

Aside from that, I continue to believe people are jumping the gun on DeAndre bolting after this season. He's not a first round pick on any mock board from what I can tell, so it just doesn't quite add up to me. There are a ridiculous supply of wings who are going to be declaring after this season, and Napier, Boat, and Omar are all going to be taking as many shots as him, or close to it. If he puts up 14 and 7 - which seems realistic - he could come back the following season and blow up.

But, we'll find out about that seven months from now. For now - while I'm disappointed in the Devin news - I'm almost relieved in a sense that all the recruiting hysteria for 2014 is over with. Now we can focus on actual basketball, and we figure to be pretty damn good for the next two seasons.

13/14:
Bazz/T-Sam
Boat/Kromah
Omar/Giff
DD/Facey/Tolk
Phil/Tyler/Brimah

14/15, worse case scenario:
Purvis/T-Sam
Omar/Cassell
D-Ham/Tolk
Facey/Lubin
Nolan/Brimah

We're fine.
I was with you until you got to center.
 
This has been one of the stranger recruiting years.

We started off hitting a home run with Hamilton and a triple with Purvis.

We then struck out in our next 74 at-bats.

We've taken a kid no one has ever heard of and our head coach never laid eyes on before he came for a visit. We lost a kid to Oregon, then unlost him to Oregon and then decided that we didn't want him. We ended up with our Plan F point guard who will likely turn out to be as good as anyone else.

We get dropped from our last remaining target and decide to fold up the tent for the year. That will last until spring when coaches start getting fired and UConn stalks their dislodged recruits.

My whole take on the recruiting year is....Rakim Lubin better be good.
 
Still can't believe we missed out on Chatman, Larrier, Robinson, and Abu. Two months ago it seemed like a question of which one. Seems like we put a lot of our eggs in the Abu basket.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but don't be surprised if a top 2015 kid reclassifies to 2014 (like Shabazz). We have several 2015 studs on campus for Midnight Madness so lets see what happens. There are rumors the staff is feeling really good about a recruit no one is talking about on here.
 
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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but don't be surprised if a top 2015 kid reclassifies to 2014 (like Shabazz). We have several 2015 studs on campus for Midnight Madness so lets see what happens. There are rumors the staff is feeling really good about a recruit no one is talking about on here.
Is it me???? OK, I may be considered a project being 40, but I have 4 years of eligibility left and can still knock down the three.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but don't be surprised if a top 2015 kid reclassifies to 2014 (like Shabazz). We have several 2015 studs on campus for Midnight Madness so lets see what happens. There are rumors the staff is feeling really good about a recruit no one is talking about on here.


Who are some of the 2015 guys that could re-classify?
 
Who are some of the 2015 guys that could re-classify?

No clue but Jessie Govan, Will Jackson, Malachi Richardson, Donovan Mitchell, Jared Reuter, and Curtis Cobb are all 2015's on campus for late night
 
Just recd the following text from my source who heard this straight from DRob's coach.

Lack of connection, logjam at position , not feelin them as much AAC as a conference

Should be taken with a grain of salt since they might be embarrassed that uconn stopped recruiting him

If the kid goes to IU then we know that is a bunch of BS. Florida makes sense, not I U. I can't wait for UConn to beat those hillbilly's after we embarrass Calhoun's favorite team BC.
 
As I posted in the Melvin Swift thread the other night,these are the things he wrote me on Twitter. When I joked and asked if I can send him a direct message after he commits to UConn, he wrote "yeah you can do that".

Then after I said I thought he'd be a great fit with Purvis and Hamilton, he said "I know that is going to be great with the three of us together" He could be just placating fans from various schools but he could have been a little more noncommittal with his comments. He confirmed that we offered him and is looking forward to his visit. Hopefully there's fire with the smoke.
 
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[quote="champs99and04, post: 718090, member: 48]

worse case scenario:
Purvis/T-Sam
Omar/Cassell
D-Ham/Tolk
Facey/Lubin
Nolan/Brimah

We're fine.[/quote]
I think you're wrong about starting 5 next year. KO will play 5 best players, regardless of position. That's how he recruited Cassell, saying that more than one point can be on the court pushing the ball.

So I see Cassell making the starting 5 with one of the bigs sitting.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but don't be surprised if a top 2015 kid reclassifies to 2014 (like Shabazz). We have several 2015 studs on campus for Midnight Madness so lets see what happens. There are rumors the staff is feeling really good about a recruit no one is talking about on here.

I saw this dog the other day at Rucker Park in NYC shooting hoops and thought of you. Rumor has it Zeke has more game than Devin. Hopefully we land this kid. The comments section leads me to believe ZeKe is a 5 star recruit. Only time will tell.

 
This is just not smart. (Unless they know something we don't)
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but don't be surprised if a top 2015 kid reclassifies to 2014 (like Shabazz). We have several 2015 studs on campus for Midnight Madness so lets see what happens. There are rumors the staff is feeling really good about a recruit no one is talking about on here.


As I posted in the Melvin Swift thread the other night,these are the things he wrote me on Twitter. When I joked and asked if I can send him a direct message after he commits to UConn, he wrote "yeah you can do that".

Then after I said I thought he'd be a great fit with Purvis and Hamilton, he said "I know that is going to be great with the three of us together" He could be just placating fans from various schools but he could have been a little more noncommittal with his comments. He confirmed that we offered him and is looking forward to his visit. Hopefully there's fire with the smoke.

The idea that the staff thinks one of the 2015 recruits they're high on is going to reclassify is intriguing, but that seems like a longshot. Who knows?

I'm just as perplexed with the Robinson news as the rest of you, but it could be that the rumors from a while ago that UConn was backing off may have been bogus at that time, but might be dead on now because of Swift. It might be a case of taking the bird-in-the-hand if Swift has already told KO that he wants that ship as FLaHusky has proposed. Add that to the rumor that Robinson might have been looking for a promise that whoever takes him would play him at the 3 and not the 4, might have forced KO to go all in with Swift.

Another possibility might just be that KO sees more than enough overlapping talent for 2014, that he feels they're better off keeping more ships for the 2015 class than to add another player that would carve up the minutes into too many slices. It's good to try to balance off each class where you are always bringing in 4 to 5 recruits each year. There's 13 ships each year. If you're an elite program, you can expect about 2 players jumping early to the NBA each season and a transfer every couple years. Right now we have only 2 juniors (Boatright & Daniels) and both might leave after this season. That means we only have 2 ships to offer the talented 2015 class unless there's a combination of not filling all our 2014 ships, someone leaves early in 2014 and/or someone transfers between now and then. Looking at the current roster and the incoming 2014 class, the only one I can see possibly jumping early into the 2015 NBA draft would be DHam. I don't think Omar is enough of an athlete to jump early, but I'm just guessing. Although Purvis was a Burger AA, I think he's going to need more than 2014-15 season to develop his PG skills to make that jump.

I'd be shocked if DD doesn't move on early. All he has to do is continue what he did at the end of last season consistently throughout this season and he's going to be a lottery pick. As for Bazz, who knows. I think he needs all 3 years, but then again, no one expected Kemba to blow up his junior season.

If I were to take a stab at this, I'd say that KO might be in fact done with the 2014 class. What that means for Swift? I don't know. Maybe they want to see what he can do scrimmaging with the current team and if he seems like a real sleeper, they'll take him. Maybe he's an option if they think that Facey is declared completely ineligible. I hope not.
 
Jeez, do I need to start giving envelopes to players to seal the deal? Just kidding.....maybe......If I see another Twitter filled posts saying we're leading with a kid, I think I'll lose it. I'd love to know our offer to commit percentage compared to others like UNC, Duke, Kansas etc. It seems like we offer everybody and take the first one that bites. It may just be my impression but it seems like we're offering a new player everyday.
 
This has been one of the stranger recruiting years.

We started off hitting a home run with Hamilton and a triple with Purvis.

We then struck out in our next 74 at-bats.

We've taken a kid no one has ever heard of and our head coach never laid eyes on before he came for a visit. We lost a kid to Oregon, then unlost him to Oregon and then decided that we didn't want him. We ended up with our Plan F point guard who will likely turn out to be as good as anyone else.

We get dropped from our last remaining target and decide to fold up the tent for the year. That will last until spring when coaches start getting fired and UConn stalks their dislodged recruits.

My whole take on the recruiting year is....Rakim Lubin better be good.

I thought I read that Ollie saw Lubin play in the spring. That's what his commit article said.
 
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