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Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

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I just glad that we have half their support. My friends out here think UConn fans have lost their mind for not wanting to join the Big 12
It's such a wide range of reactions that I get. Most of the time I have to bite my tongue to avoid going into the history of the big east, conference realignment, AAC, Television revenues, etc. every time it comes up. Save the table pounding and name calling for twitter and boneyard.
 
I have to laugh at some of these posts.

When the OBE broke up, we were left with the AAC. Posters on this board were screaming that UConn deserved a place at the P5 table. When the ACC took Louisville over UConn, people wanted Herbst and Manual out. They were asleep at the wheel watching the UConn women playing in an early tournament.

Now with the potential of an invite to the Big 12, people want football to say independent and basketball to stay in the NBE.

You do not pass up and invite to the Big 12 if it comes.
 
Unfortunately there is a portion of the UConn fanbase that would like nothing more than the football program's death
That same portion doesn’t realize that it will be death by $40 million annually that will sink the rest of our sports. As soon as more P5 schools choose to throw a few bucks in the pot, we’re sunk.
 
It has been reported that the networks will accept UConn as a P-5 team as far as payments to the conference go.
That is some myth that was brought about because ten years ago the Big 10 supposedly agreed to consider UConn a P5 opponent for a season. It was never confirmed and has zero to do with a TV contract in a completely different league. The Big 12 contract specifically states P5 will get the same additional money per team. In fact, the current teams who just joined caused the other teams some money and won't get the same payout for years simply because of that reason. Do you actually believe that BYU is not considered P5, but for some odd reason UConn is?
 
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The ACC has no need to rush on any of SMU, Tulane and Memphis. They may get there eventually but only if the ACC has no other options. (Tulane was a part of the bridge too far additions that prompted the catholics to leave the Big East/AAC and form the current incarnation of the Big East, they aren't going to be any more appealing to Syracuse, BC, Wake or any of the ACC left-behinds)
They now look prestigious. That's why they take their time. Have the right and the opportunity.
 
That is some myth that was brought about because ten years ago the Big 10 supposedly agreed to consider UConn a P5 opponent for a season. It was never confirmed and has zero to do with a TV contract in a completely different league. The Big 12 contract specifically states P5 will get the same additional money per team. In fact, the current teams who just joined caused the other teams some money and won't get the same payout for years simply because of that reason. Do you actually believe that BYU is not considered P5, but for some odd reason UConn is?
Not quite. it was reported currently there are select G5s the Big12 TV partners will pay pro rata for. It probably has to do with our BB success and "TV power". They mentioned UConn specifically, don't know who the others are.
 
because the ACC members at the top don't see things like that. They see it as one more mouth to feed.
And yet they have a media deal that automatically pays a pro rata share increase for new members.
 
That is some myth that was brought about because ten years ago the Big 10 supposedly agreed to consider UConn a P5 opponent for a season. It was never confirmed and has zero to do with a TV contract in a completely different league. The Big 12 contract specifically states P5 will get the same additional money per team. In fact, the current teams who just joined caused the other teams some money and won't get the same payout for years simply because of that reason. Do you actually believe that BYU is not considered P5, but for some odd reason UConn is?
BYU is already considered a P5 school they don't need to be "agreed" to be. Plus the Big 10 also mentions BYU with UConn sooooo,....
 
BYU is already considered a P5 school they don't need to be "agreed" to be. Plus the Big 10 also mentions BYU with UConn sooooo,....
As well they should... How many programs have grown men up and down the lineup as they do? The take time off for those Mormon Missions then come back fully grown...
 
BYU is already considered a P5 school they don't need to be "agreed" to be. Plus the Big 10 also mentions BYU with UConn sooooo,....
Big 12 Teams took a revenue share cut to add BYU.

The whole Big 10 thing was because Cincinnati and UConn had a ton of games scheduled with Big 10 teams and the Big 10 changed the rules and just made an exception so they didn't blow up the schedules of their conference teams. Army and Navy were also eventually included in the exceptions group because of scheduling. Only BYU and Notre Dame were actually included in the rule, but they simply made exceptions for the other teams.
 
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Not quite. it was reported currently there are select G5s the Big12 TV partners will pay pro rata for. It probably has to do with our BB success and "TV power". They mentioned UConn specifically, don't know who the others are.
Prove it. They literally just took a per school payout cut to add BYU, which completely disproves your point. Even with the BIG 10 rule, it was only Notre Dame and that counted as games under the rule and they gave exceptions to other teams like us and Cinci because we had so many games scheduled. Even with that, the Big 12 took a per team contract haircut to add BYU.
 
That is some myth that was brought about because ten years ago the Big 10 supposedly agreed to consider UConn a P5 opponent for a season. It was never confirmed and has zero to do with a TV contract in a completely different league. The Big 12 contract specifically states P5 will get the same additional money per team. In fact, the current teams who just joined caused the other teams some money and won't get the same payout for years simply because of that reason. Do you actually believe that BYU is not considered P5, but for some odd reason UConn is?
Wrong
 
Prove it. They literally just took a per school payout cut to add BYU, which completely disproves your point. Even with the BIG 10 rule, it was only Notre Dame and that counted as games under the rule and they gave exceptions to other teams like us and Cinci because we had so many games scheduled. Even with that, the Big 12 took a per team contract haircut to add BYU.
Not that i have to prove anything, but the tweet i saw was from a news source. Too hard to find now

 
Prove it. They literally just took a per school payout cut to add BYU, which completely disproves your point. Even with the BIG 10 rule, it was only Notre Dame and that counted as games under the rule and they gave exceptions to other teams like us and Cinci because we had so many games scheduled. Even with that, the Big 12 took a per team contract haircut to add BYU.
Isn't the new contract the Big 12 signed, that will not include OU and Tex, paying more per school?
 
That is some myth that was brought about because ten years ago the Big 10 supposedly agreed to consider UConn a P5 opponent for a season. It was never confirmed and has zero to do with a TV contract in a completely different league. The Big 12 contract specifically states P5 will get the same additional money per team. In fact, the current teams who just joined caused the other teams some money and won't get the same payout for years simply because of that reason. Do you actually believe that BYU is not considered P5, but for some odd reason UConn is?
There have been multiple tweets that UConn would get pro-rata. Here is one of them:

 
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Not that i have to prove anything, but the tweet i saw was from a news source. Too hard to find now


That tweet is not from a news source. I think you are confused about what twitter is. Its some guy who tweet a lot and has a very small following.
 
Isn't the new contract the Big 12 signed, that will not include OU and Tex, paying more per school?
Here are the details quoted from an actual news source:

"Each of the eight legacy Big 12 schools agreed to forego $16 million total ($8 million annually in 2023-24 and 2024-25), approximately 19% of their $42.6 million annual distributions, sources said. Each of the four new Big 12 members are set to receive $18 million to $19 million annually, approximately 40% of the original annual distribution."

"The legacy Big 12 programs shared money from their current distributions knowing Fox and ESPN likely wouldn't pay equal value for the four new members. Those schools didn't bring pro rata (equal) value to the existing deal. League sources said the conference did not ask its partners for increased rights fees."
 
Here are the details quoted from an actual news source:

"Each of the eight legacy Big 12 schools agreed to forego $16 million total ($8 million annually in 2023-24 and 2024-25), approximately 19% of their $42.6 million annual distributions, sources said. Each of the four new Big 12 members are set to receive $18 million to $19 million annually, approximately 40% of the original annual distribution."

"The legacy Big 12 programs shared money from their current distributions knowing Fox and ESPN likely wouldn't pay equal value for the four new members. Those schools didn't bring pro rata (equal) value to the existing deal. League sources said the conference did not ask its partners for increased rights fees."
According to that story, the conference didn't ask Fox and ESPN for pro-rata for the added schools. It says "knowing Fox and ESPN likely wouldn't pay equal value for the four new members". Seems strange that the conference wouldn't ask. In any case, maybe they DID ask this time and that is why the stories have come out that Fox and ESPN will pay pro-rata.
 
Here are the details quoted from an actual news source:

"Each of the eight legacy Big 12 schools agreed to forego $16 million total ($8 million annually in 2023-24 and 2024-25), approximately 19% of their $42.6 million annual distributions, sources said. Each of the four new Big 12 members are set to receive $18 million to $19 million annually, approximately 40% of the original annual distribution."

"The legacy Big 12 programs shared money from their current distributions knowing Fox and ESPN likely wouldn't pay equal value for the four new members. Those schools didn't bring pro rata (equal) value to the existing deal. League sources said the conference did not ask its partners for increased rights fees."
What was that news source?
 
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That tweet is not from a news source. I think you are confused about what twitter is. Its some guy who tweet a lot and has a very small following.
The guy from K-STATE has 19k followers. We will find out soon enough. Benedicts comment lead me to believe he knows what networks are willing to pay for UConn in a P5.
 
Here are the details quoted from an actual news source:

"Each of the eight legacy Big 12 schools agreed to forego $16 million total ($8 million annually in 2023-24 and 2024-25), approximately 19% of their $42.6 million annual distributions, sources said. Each of the four new Big 12 members are set to receive $18 million to $19 million annually, approximately 40% of the original annual distribution."

"The legacy Big 12 programs shared money from their current distributions knowing Fox and ESPN likely wouldn't pay equal value for the four new members. Those schools didn't bring pro rata (equal) value to the existing deal. League sources said the conference did not ask its partners for increased rights fees."

If I recall correctly this was for this year only .. under the old contract because the conference is a 14 team league this year with the new arrivals and Texas & OU. The new contract that starts next season is actually for more money per team per year.
 
The discussion about money, TV money, exit fee etc... are being handled by the people responsible. No doubt it's being looked at at every angle. As a BB fan , most probable would like to stay in the BE. As a UConn athletic fan, football fan, why would anybody want to stay independent instead as p5 member? UConn finally has a great football coach in Jim Mora. If one listened to HC Mora since he came to UConn, one would know Coach Mora came to UConn to stay and to win ( among other things). He is not going anywhere. UConn football recruitment will be better as a p5 member. If and when a b12 invite materializes, UConn will accept if the football program is to stay relevant. A b12 invite will arrive sooner than expected according to twitter rumors.
 
He’s here until he’s not. Money for him at the moment isn’t a top priority but if he has continued and increased success then you need to pay him out of respect. If not, he will go somewhere that shows more respect.
Especially as HC and DC. The DC monies maybe being spread around the program?
 
He’s here until he’s not. Money for him at the moment isn’t a top priority but if he has continued and increased success then you need to pay him out of respect. If not, he will go somewhere that shows more respect.
100%. Mora knows he could get paid more at some other school right now. There are intrinsic factors that motivate him such as building a legacy for himself and UConn Football. But if and when UConn wins between 7-9 games every year, or at least for the next 2-3 years, UConn AD has to make it known to him that they are willing to increase his pay and that they appreciate his contributions. UConn isn't going to win a bidding war, at least not now they are not, to retain Mora. As long as they show they are making good faith efforts for him to increase his pay for him as well as the rest of the staff and they are investing in and committed to football, I think that will keep Mora at UConn, at least I hope it does.
 
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