Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

[RSTuthill]

If you look around, it’s done all the time. We did it in fact in the AAC.

UConn pulled a sport from the AAC and left the rest in? I don't think so. But then again you may be engaging in sarcasm. Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake.

 

[noeynox]

Why are you rooting for being a big fish in a small pond? Go big or go home.

Yeah, why am i doing that?

 

[CL82]

They could tie it up in court for decades though.

On what basis? If approvals are required, then, definitely. But in this case, on this particular spot they are not needed.

 

[RSTuthill]

On what basis? If approvals are required, then, definitely. But in this case, on this particular spot they are not needed.

I don't really need to answer this do I?

 

[CL82]

I don't really need to answer this do I?

Yes, preferably in short essay form.

 

[RSTuthill]

Yes, preferably in short essay form.

Lawyers have ways. Ask the EPA every time it issues a Advanced Notice of Rulemaking. How long ago did they say that CO2 would be treated as a criteria pollutant? Long time ago. Still has not happened.

Have you heard about all the snail darters in the brooks of Mansfield? There are wetlands. There is a vernal pool. Air quality would be a huge concern. There are a plethora of bases. We are talking decades of delay.

 

[John]

Anyone who thinks that the NBE would let UConn pull iits basketball programs out and leave the remaining sports is doing too much recreational smoking. It's either leave or stay, no middle ground.

There's other decent conferences to park these other sports.

 

[John]

UConn pulled a sport from the AAC and left the rest in? I don't think so. But then again you may be engaging in sarcasm. Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake.

Field hockey

 

[LetsGoUC]

I am ready for some type of announcement this week. Pretty tired of random twitter "sources"

 

[RSTuthill]

Field hockey

OK, but that was when exactly? When the AAC formed in 2013? Field hockey reamined an associate BE member? So they were never really pulled out. And I would submit that the response would have been different for a revenue sport.

 

[John]

OK, but that was when exactly? When the AAC formed in 2013? Field hockey reamined an associate BE member? So they were never really pulled out. And I would submit that the response would have been different for a revenue sport.

Yes.

 

[DoctorWho85]

UCLA and USC play off campus.

Don't tell that to half this board they'll say that they'll need to build an on campus stadium to play on the Big 10

 

[DoctorWho85]

Having $40 million a year extra to spend on sports would sure put UConn in a good position for the future.

It would allow DB to actually pay thr FB assistants so we can keep thr good ones on house for longer.

 

[CL82]

Lawyers have ways. Ask the EPA every time it issues a Advanced Notice of Rulemaking. How long ago did they say that CO2 would be treated as a criteria pollutant? Long time ago. Still has not happened.

Have you heard about all the snail darters in the brooks of Mansfield? There are wetlands. There is a vernal pool. Air quality would be a huge concern. There are a plethora of bases. We are talking decades of delay.

Fwiw they did a study for Toscano. There are no ecological issues on the tract.

 

[Waquoit]

Don't tell that to half this board they'll say that they'll need to build an on campus stadium to play on the Big 10

They're doing that now!

 

[Urcea]

Don't tell that to half this board they'll say that they'll need to build an on campus stadium to play on the Big 10

they would say that we need it to AAC let us in football-only

 

[Bongo Fury]

I don’t necessarily believe better pay always brings better coaches. They may be better known. I could see Charlton being lured as a HC again or OC at a larger program if he is successful.

 

[Dizzy21]

I don’t necessarily believe better pay always brings better coaches. They may be better known. I could see Charlton being lured as a HC again or OC at a larger program if he is successful.

It keeps better coaches.

 

[DoctorWho85]

It keeps better coaches.

If a P5 school comes calling for a HC, I don't blame them, but UConn has had a tough time keeping coaching talent hired to continue success. If you're constantly turning coaches there's no consistency and hurts the team.

 

[mikedog10]

If a P5 school comes calling for a HC, I don't blame them, but UConn has had a tough time keeping coaching talent hired to continue success. If you're constantly turning coaches there's no consistency and hurts the team.

If you’re constantly seeing your coaches move on to bigger opportunitie$… then you’re having a lot of success, and seen as the type of place talented young coaches can advance their career. Glass half full!

 

[DoctorWho85]

If you’re constantly seeing your coaches move on to bigger opportunitie$… then you’re having a lot of success, and seen as the type of place talented young coaches can advance their career. Glass half full!

Good point. I don't see we're getting the next Kirby Smart or Brent Veneables as an assistant. So that makes sense

 

[Urcea]

It keeps better coaches.

Almost as important, it allows you have more coaches

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Almost as important, it allows you have more coaches

I remember when Purdue came into East Hartford, they had a lot more stuff on the sidelines. Support staff, cooling equipment, medical.... everything.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Looks like Arizona and Colorado are getting the invite and UConn once again is getting left behind.

 

[Urcea]

Looks like Arizona and Colorado are getting the invite and UConn once again is getting left behind.

Hard to say that yet. Hearsay and limited sourcing on some articles. You also figure that if Arizona is coming so is ASU, which means there's a fourth slot open

 

[NHRich]

Hard to believe that the awful negatives would come out like that if there was any chance. There
are better ways to say you are going in a different
direction. No need to be total jerks . F… the big 12.

 

[mikedog10]

There is a TON of UConn talk in this new article from CBS Sports this morning:

Inside the Big 12's pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn as Brett Yormark aims to increase league's basketball dominance

Whether Yormark has the support from the rest of the Big 12 remains to be seen

www.cbssports.com

————————
“Blue blood? Gonzaga? Small sample size? All of it is still up for debate, but the Zags' worth is reflected in the Big 12's shift of priorities. While the league's interest in recruiting Pac-12 teamsremains, adding Gonzaga (basketball only) and UConn (full membership) is dominating league conversations.”

“The feeling locally regarding a UConn move has been described as mixed.

On one hand, migration to the Big 12 would cause the school to lose its identity; it would be losing at least some ties to the Northeast and Big East rivals to play in such far-flung outposts as Stillwater, Oklahoma, and Ames, Iowa.

UConn, entering Year 4 in its return to the Big East, would reportedly owe the conference at least $30 million in exit fees if it departed before its seventh year as a member. That's for an athletic department reportedly $53 million in the red already.

The Huskies are a snapshot themselves of realignment. Prior to this year, their last national championship was achieved in 2014 as a member of the American where they played with two of the Big 12's four most recent expansion teams: Houston and UCF.

The Big East has regained a lot of its old swagger and respect because UConn is a member. With Georgetown (Ed Cooley) and St. John's (Rick Pitino) adding significant coaches this offseason, the league has gotten even stronger. One veteran Big East source even suggested a move to the Big 12 would not only enable suitors to come after UConn coach Danny Hurley, the coach might even begin looking elsewhere himself.

On the other hand, well, there's that Big 12 money. Per a 12-year deal signed with Fox in 2012, the 11-team Big East averages $42 million annually or $3.8 million per school. (UConn left the Big East for the American in 2013 and returned to the Big East in 2020.) The Big 12 just distributed $440 million in total revenue to its 10 members for 2022-23 fiscal year, an average of $44 million per school. Though again, that is powered by football rights.

UConn wouldn't get that anytime soon, but think of any new additions to the Big 12 as a growth stock if handled the right way. With the SEC and Big Ten dominating college athletics, the idea may be to round up as many brands as possible to become a solid No. 3 conference in the pecking order. That matters in terms of security, finances and access to both the NCAA Tournament and College Football Playoff.

In the end, the Big 12 may appeal to UConn's sensibilities. In the realignment merry-go-round, the school has seldom been courted like this. Yormark is a Northeast guy with big ideas and extensive ties to New York.

His league is already considering a series of exhibition basketball games in New York's famed Rucker Park next summer. Think of Kansas, Baylor, UConn and Gonzaga taking part. That's the last three national champions plus a Zags team that has twice played for the national title since 2017 and been to eight consecutive Sweet 16s.”

“Would UConn be persuaded with more Big 12 money and "nearby" teams in Cincinnati, West Virginia and UCF?

All of it might depend on your definition of younger, hipper, cooler.”

 

[Urcea]

There is a TON of UConn talk in this new article from CBS Sports this morning:

Inside the Big 12's pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn as Brett Yormark aims to increase league's basketball dominance

Whether Yormark has the support from the rest of the Big 12 remains to be seen

www.cbssports.com

————————
“Blue blood? Gonzaga? Small sample size? All of it is still up for debate, but the Zags' worth is reflected in the Big 12's shift of priorities. While the league's interest in recruiting Pac-12 teamsremains, adding Gonzaga (basketball only) and UConn (full membership) is dominating league conversations.”

“The feeling locally regarding a UConn move has been described as mixed.

On one hand, migration to the Big 12 would cause the school to lose its identity; it would be losing at least some ties to the Northeast and Big East rivals to play in such far-flung outposts as Stillwater, Oklahoma, and Ames, Iowa.

UConn, entering Year 4 in its return to the Big East, would reportedly owe the conference at least $30 million in exit fees if it departed before its seventh year as a member. That's for an athletic department reportedly $53 million in the red already.

The Huskies are a snapshot themselves of realignment. Prior to this year, their last national championship was achieved in 2014 as a member of the American where they played with two of the Big 12's four most recent expansion teams: Houston and UCF.

The Big East has regained a lot of its old swagger and respect because UConn is a member. With Georgetown (Ed Cooley) and St. John's (Rick Pitino) adding significant coaches this offseason, the league has gotten even stronger. One veteran Big East source even suggested a move to the Big 12 would not only enable suitors to come after UConn coach Danny Hurley, the coach might even begin looking elsewhere himself.

On the other hand, well, there's that Big 12 money. Per a 12-year deal signed with Fox in 2012, the 11-team Big East averages $42 million annually or $3.8 million per school. (UConn left the Big East for the American in 2013 and returned to the Big East in 2020.) The Big 12 just distributed $440 million in total revenue to its 10 members for 2022-23 fiscal year, an average of $44 million per school. Though again, that is powered by football rights.

UConn wouldn't get that anytime soon, but think of any new additions to the Big 12 as a growth stock if handled the right way. With the SEC and Big Ten dominating college athletics, the idea may be to round up as many brands as possible to become a solid No. 3 conference in the pecking order. That matters in terms of security, finances and access to both the NCAA Tournament and College Football Playoff.

In the end, the Big 12 may appeal to UConn's sensibilities. In the realignment merry-go-round, the school has seldom been courted like this. Yormark is a Northeast guy with big ideas and extensive ties to New York.

His league is already considering a series of exhibition basketball games in New York's famed Rucker Park next summer. Think of Kansas, Baylor, UConn and Gonzaga taking part. That's the last three national champions plus a Zags team that has twice played for the national title since 2017 and been to eight consecutive Sweet 16s.”

“Would UConn be persuaded with more Big 12 money and "nearby" teams in Cincinnati, West Virginia and UCF?

All of it might depend on your definition of younger, hipper, cooler.”

nitpicking, but "as a member of the American where they played with two of the Big 12's four most recent expansion teams: Houston and UCF" - missing somebody?

also, the One veteran Big East source even suggested a move to the Big 12 would not only enable suitors to come after UConn coach Danny Hurley, the coach might even begin looking elsewhere himself" conjecture is going to fuel anti-Big 12 rhetoric for the next week, great

 

[John]

also, the One veteran Big East source even suggested a move to the Big 12 would not only enable suitors to come after UConn coach Danny Hurley, the coach might even begin looking elsewhere himself"

so is he a UConn guy or not? The whole article is ridiculous.

 

[Palatine]

nitpicking, but "as a member of the American where they played with two of the Big 12's four most recent expansion teams: Houston and UCF" - missing somebody?

also, the One veteran Big East source even suggested a move to the Big 12 would not only enable suitors to come after UConn coach Danny Hurley, the coach might even begin looking elsewhere himself" conjecture is going to fuel anti-Big 12 rhetoric for the next week, great

Everyone knows his dream job is Providence.