Does it bother anyone else......

[ABachelor6CR]

That when you scroll the TV guides that men's bball is called "College Basketball" yet the women's games are called "Women's Basketball" as if they are not "really college basketball"........

Why not call them "Men's College Basketball" and "Women's College Basketball" and be done with it.......or NCAAM basketball and NCAAW basketball....

 

[EricLA]

Honestly I never thought about it.

 

[mysticmajor]

ABSOLUTELY notice it. On many pages, wbb is not even on the main menu selection of basketball.

 

[BigBird]

Direct TV categorizes NCAA softball as "baseball." Same insult. I like the use of
"(M)" and "(W)" that ESPN3 uses.

 

[Farney]

Honestly I've liked it because I can find women's games faster. Your suggestion would still make it easy to distinguish but I really like being able to spot women's games faster when scrolling through.

 

[xHunt3r]

Does it bother anyone else?

No

 

[meyers7]

Honestly I've liked it because I can find women's games faster. Your suggestion would still make it easy to distinguish but I really like being able to spot women's games faster when scrolling through.

Agree, doesn't really bother me. As long as I can find what I want, they can call it Gibbers and Babsits.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Sports coverage is still evolving, and it will be a long time before even sports sites like ESPN that cover women's sports (unlike CBS Sports which has no women's presence at all) have the linking acces for men's and women's sports on even a remotely equal status. There is no NCAAW on the ESPN menu, so of course you have to choose the menu option of More Sports to see the Women's BB choice (and there is a second Men's Basketball selection in the Other Sports). But the Women's BB section is split to cover both WCBB and WNBA action, while Men's Basketball obviously just covers the MCBB action, and of course the pro action is covered in a separate NBA section. Everything is based on fan interest, as you would expect on a commercial venture.

But hey, as long as you can find what you need, no huge problem.

 

[reno tony]

Nope

 

[tomcat]

I've hated it ever since I first noticed it. The Gibbers are okay, but the damn Babsits are a real problem. What's worse, I would argue that WCBB, while still much less popular than the male version, is taken much more seriously by many more people than most other women's sports. If there is a woman's sport that deserves to be distinguished in some way, it is WCBB.

 

[BigBird]

I would argue that WCBB, while still much less popular than the male version, is taken much more seriously by many more people than most other women's sports.

Good point, but the USWNT in soccer has a fan following that borders on madness. WBB is taken as seriously as the media takes it seriously. And now, they are trying to sell us on cricket. Cricket? Spray Raid liberally.

 

[ThisJustIn]

I know folks here aren't bothered when the UConn women are called the Lady Huskies, so why should they be bothered by the lack of a (M). Words aren't powerful, and they don't reflect a culture's perception or bias.

 

[Eggman]

'Words aren't powerful, and they don't reflect a culture's perception or bias.'

Isn't that kind of asinine in a world that uses words as it's main form of communication?

You must have said that to see what kind of response you'd get, right? Tell me you're not serious.

 

[UcMiami]

I believe TJI was being sarcastic.
Yes, has always bugged me a bit.

 

[DobbsRover2]

These things work themselves out over time. The Old English equivalent of the word woman -- "wif-mann" -- originally meant female human, and there was a corresponding word "wer-mann" (as in werewolf, man-wolf), so they both would have been playing in ESPNW back in the 1100s I guess. But sadly, we men lost our wer side and were left as just plain old men, and that is what the game listings and ESPN reflects in their nomenclature, since man and mankind are still just a terms for humans.

Give it another 900 years to work things out better and maybe the male side will get a prefix back, maybe a (D) for "dunking-man", unless Stewie starts throwing them down too frequently.

 

[DGHuskyFan]

I know folks here aren't bothered when the UConn women are called the Lady Huskies, so why should they be bothered by the lack of a (M). Words aren't powerful, and they don't reflect a culture's perception or bias.

Haha great use of irony. As my daughter explained to me from her Women's Gender Studies class that in our culture the reference point is a (white) male. Then descriptors (gender, race, etc) follow from that to identify anyone different. Until there is a huge cultural shift our patriarchal language bias will continue.

Now... back to Mulkey's and Muffet's tourney outfits! (wink wink sarcasm)

 

[reno tony]

'Words aren't powerful, and they don't reflect a culture's perception or bias.'

Isn't that kind of asinine in a world that uses words as it's main form of communication?

You must have said that to see what kind of response you'd get, right? Tell me you're not serious.

I believe that was the best example of irony I have seen in a long time..... as well as sarcasm.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Unfortunately, folks today often simply don't get irony / sarcasm unless you accompany it with the appropriate emoticon.

Just another byproduct of our society as it is, not as it was.

Great post, TJI.

 

[Ozzie Nelson]

I have had some of my irony laced posts "disappear" here, and I have no idea why that happens.

Where is the damn irony emoticon?

 

[Icebear]

That when you scroll the TV guides that men's bball is called "College Basketball" yet the women's games are called "Women's Basketball" as if they are not "really college basketball"...

Why not call them "Men's College Basketball" and "Women's College Basketball" and be done with it..or NCAAM basketball and NCAAW basketball....

Women's basketball could be relabeled "Graduate School basketball."

 

[HoopsFan21]

Women's basketball could be relabeled "Graduate School basketball."

And men's basketball could be labelled freshmen basketball, especially Kentucky.

 

[Magy Cannon]

Yes it bothers me. Bothers me more when I use my ROKU on Watch ESPN and the NCAA's basketball section has no women's games. And when Sportscenter is all men's sports and male athletes it bothers me. And when the local TV stations cover sports it's all mens and boys sports. High school football gets a lot of coverage. The local college women's basketball team gets no coverage. YES IT BOTHERS ME.

 

[jsloanjr]

Does it really matter? WCBB has more issues to fix other than adjectives........

 

[vtcwbuff]

That when you scroll the TV guides that men's bball is called "College Basketball" yet the women's games are called "Women's Basketball" as if they are not "really college basketball"...

Why not call them "Men's College Basketball" and "Women's College Basketball" and be done with it..or NCAAM basketball and NCAAW basketball....

Doesn't bother me a bit. I don't look for offense when none I intended.

 

[ed4ourgirls]

Not a problem.