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jleves said:
If you're playing Russian Roulette, do you want 1 or 2 bullets in the gun?
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He was already hi fiving, touching, spitting with the whole team for over 8 hours prior to being removed. Do you understand how early they get to the ballpark?

to think 30 min celebration is going to cause the spread rather than the 8-10 hours prior is ludicrous
 
methodology said:
He was already hi fiving, touching, spitting with the whole team for over 8 hours prior to being removed. Do you understand how early they get to the ballpark?

to think 30 min celebration is going to cause the spread rather than the 8-10 hours prior is ludicrous
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You didn't answer the question, do you want 1 or 2 bullets in the gun?
 
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superjohn said:
The team all wanted him out there, you think you should get to choose instead of the team?

Nobody said it would be a tragedy if he didn't celebrate with the team but it's their choice.
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No, I shouldn't choose. Neither should Dave Roberts or baseball players. Science and medical professionals and their protocols should. I'm guessing a lot of doctors and nurses that have sacrificed so much, sometimes being sequestered from their families, think it wasn't the greatest of ideas. I mean he's cheek to cheek hugging his teammates.
 
My general point is he could have celebrated with his team but been a lot smarter about it. Keep his mask on at all times. Kept his distance a bit. He was practically rolling around with people. That's tough to defend.
 
navery12 said:
Alright then get rid of the analogy. Do you think Justin Turner should be allowed to walk around the field with no mask since he probably already infected some teammates already?
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No but it's not my decision to make. If MLB and the Dodgers allow it then he should be out there with his team, he should've worn a mask though.
 
superjohn said:
No but it's not my decision to make. If MLB and the Dodgers allow it then he should be out there with his team, he should've worn a mask though.
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That's my only point, he should have had a mask on. I don't think he should have been on the field but it's outside and his choice, but he was irresponsible not having a mask on
 
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UCfor3 said:
My general point is he could have celebrated with his team but been a lot smarter about it. Keep his mask on at all times. Kept his distance a bit. He was practically rolling around with people. That's tough to defend.
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I think we all agree on this. Social distancing and masks work, he should've been smarter about the way he was on the field celebrating.
 
navery12 said:
Alright then get rid of the analogy. Do you think Justin Turner should be allowed to walk around the field with no mask since he probably already infected some teammates already?
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I’ve already said once he was informed of test he should have put on mask but I have no issue with him celebrating
 
superjohn said:
If MLB and the Dodgers allow it then he should be out there with his team, he should've worn a mask though.
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I read MLB didn't want him out there. "Security decided they would not forcibly remove Turner over concerns of contact with someone with COVID and recognizing what the optics of a potential tussle with Turner and his teammates could look like on national TV. "
 
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Waquoit said:
I read MLB didn't want him out there. "Security decided they would not forcibly remove Turner over concerns of contact with someone with COVID and recognizing what the optics of a potential tussle with Turner and his teammates could look like on national TV. "
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MLB released a statement. Turner was removed from the game and placed in quarrantine. When the game ended he broke the mutually agreed upon quarrantine protocols and joined the team on the field to celebrate. MLB security then raised the matter with Turner on the field and Turner refused to comply or leave the field. An investigation is forthcoming. Talk about selfish. Impossible to defend.
 
Don’t know what difference it makes since he was out there already. It’s a complex situation and I don’t blame Turner for celebrating. There is a flaw in system there needs to be more rapid testing.
 
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Analytics cost the Rays a game 7. Maybe the Dodgers still win but Snell was cruising on 70 pitches. There’s just way too many variables when you go to the pen early.
 
Scoe said:
Analytics cost the Rays a game 7. Maybe the Dodgers still win but Snell was cruising on 70 pitches. There’s just way too many variables when you go to the pen early.
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yeah was it analytics or a manager overthinking? seems weird to blame statistics....that are based on previous results. analytics are there as a guideline, there isn't a single all encompassing stat that says "pull your pitcher when he's dominating". when guys get pulled to avoid going through the order for a third time, it's usually because batters are starting to square him up, or he's losing spin/movement (like kershaw against the braves game 4). that wasnt the case here, this was just a manager overthinking.

and they got beat by one of the most analytically driven teams in baseball, so not sure you can blame math for this. analytics are legit what got both of these teams to where they are (dodgers payroll helps tho). look at how they develop talent. look at the rays starting lineup....all acquired through trades. you think those were just hunches? they were numerically driven. and when you combine that with (normally) good coaching and player development, that usually gets you good results.

people act like it's one or the other. the best teams are utilizing both numbers and eye-test stuff to the best of their ability. analytics should provide context to what you're seeing, and if what you're seeing is sustainable long-term and how it projects.
 
goskis2018 said:
Yeah, I wouldn't skip the world series celebrations due to testing positive for Covid either. Work your butt off your whole life to climb on top of the mountain only to not share in the success with your brothers for fear of giving them a disease that is of no real threat to any of them? Yeah, right.
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There is no 'I' in Team.

His teammates do have families, some who may have vulnerable members.
 
Kitaman said:
There is no 'I' in Team.

His teammates do have families, some who may have vulnerable members.
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Well hopefully thy are all responsible adults and celebrate accordingly its not like they can go out into public in California at least. Maybe go to an island for 2 weeks and celebrate. I dont blame Turner here they just won the world series.

Should he have worn a mask probably looked like he was trying to then decided to take it off, tough spot to be in in the heat of the moment. He was told during the game in the 7th inning not before. It would be like telling Shabazz in 2014 championship with 5 minutes to go, "you have to come out of the game".
 
Scoe said:
Well hopefully thy are all responsible adults and celebrate accordingly its not like they can go out into public in California at least. Maybe go to an island for 2 weeks and celebrate. I dont blame Turner here they just won the world series.
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I'm not sure how to celebrate safely, and of course no one is thinking right at that moment. Best thing for him is to own it, apologize and try and make things right. Hopefully nothing results from it.

I can't blame him, but it doesn't stop it from being a bad stupid action/decision.
 
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Brochacho said:
Justin Turner was completely irresponsible to be participating in the celebrations maskless and kissing people.
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Theres a lot of that going on. Im honestly not surprised. Id make further comments but i dont want to get banned.
 
There is a direct correlation between mortality rate and viral load as well. If one brief encounter may have gotten someone sick, a series of encounters would contribute to higher viral loads. Higher viral loads are associated with worse outcomes especially with covid.
 
David 76 said:
I missed the part where each of his teammates were polled and unanimously wanted him out there.
Just wear a freaking mask!
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I mean honestly everyone was already exposed to him, probably several times... Yeah it was foolish for him to go back out there but realistically the players would have already been exposed. He also just won the World Series... Would be surprised if he was the only player with Covid at the time unless it was a false positive also- if the virus is as contagious as they say.
 
I have a hunch this will be a false positive. Still seems selfish, though. Some have made far greater sacrifices then missing a baseball celebration during this pandemic.
 
glastonbury50 said:
I have a hunch this will be a false positive. Still seems selfish, though. Some have made far greater sacrifices then missing a baseball celebration during this pandemic.
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This was a world series celebration not just a baseball celebration. They pour their blood, sweat and tears into this for 30 years at the opportunity to reach that mountain top and some never get there. He/ the team may never experience this again. This is a once in a lifetime achievement for most

Theres a different type of brotherhood/ family in baseball than any other sport. 9 months playing sometimes and away from your real family while grinding and traveling for 162 games
 
methodology said:
This was a world series celebration not just a baseball celebration. They pour their blood, sweat and tears into this for 30 years at the opportunity to reach that mountain top and some never get there. He/ the team may never experience this again. This is a once in a lifetime achievement for most

Theres a different type of brotherhood/ family in baseball than any other sport. 9 months playing sometimes and away from your real family while grinding and traveling for 162 games
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Boohoo ppl are losing their businesses, livelihoods and family members.
 
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