But if we switch to Sagarin and Massey (which I know aren't official) Baylor has 3 wins better than any of Notre Dame's. Yes they are all Texas, but that still counts for something. It is all arbitrary.
How about a "Play in" 1-seed game to settle this argument. Game could be played at a neutral court, with NCAA referees from the Western conferences .
If it is really down to these 2, then theoretically they should be placed in the same regional so this would happen. Unfortunately, the NCAA will probably play for money and prevent this for geographic reasons. I'm afraid Baylor could end up with Mississippi State, putting 2 of the likely top 3 teams in one bracket and keeping one of them out of the final four.
The great thing about the NCAA 64 team tournament, is that both Baylor and Notre Dame will have to win a few other games before they will play each other. Upsets happen, and each team will need to win before they get the chance at settling this for the Baylor and Notre Dame fans.
I accept this. But if the RPI is the metric, then Baylor should get a 1 seed too as they are ranked number 4.
That's my point. If you use arbitrary cutoff points you can find a number for anything. The point of the RPI is to do the comparisons for you, so we don't have to make this sort of arbitrary comparison.
I give up. By your logic, who cares about the "ranking" of Notre Dame or Baylor? What matters is their body of work, and that's what the committee used last season as Maryland didn't measure up.
While I understand your reasoning. SC has Wilson, a better player than anyone on Baylor, Texas or Oregon. Plus she is a senior and has a good supporting cast with championship experience. SC also has Dawn , probably a better coach also. SC is going to be a very tough out, and will not give up the title easily. People will think I'm crazy, but I don't want any part of them until the FF. After watching non stop wcbb since last week. I thought they along with Louisville performed the best.
I'm really tempted to go into an in-depth rant about the arbitrary nature of RPI as a whole, but this probably isn't the place for that. It is what it is and it won't be changing this year. I do enjoy a good debate about rankings, especially now that we have no basketball to watch for a week. I hope our teams meet in the tournament so this argument can be played out on the floor.
I don't want it to be 100% formula based, there has to be a place for human insight. Otherwise, Notre Dame would be ranked over Louisville despite the repeated results on the floor. My issue is that every formula, every ranking, every poll, and pretty much everyone's "eye test" has Baylor in the top 4. Why shouldn't they be a 1 seed? If they evidence was split I wouldn't have a problem but all evidence outside of Charlie Creme points to the same thing. I still hold out hope that Creme will be just as surprised by the final bracket as he was in the first reveal.
I'm sorry if you feel that presenting evidence to back up an argument is trolling. My point is valid. Show me a poll or metric that doesn't have Baylor in the top 4.
Well, I don't really care how any team performs against others. I do care how specific teams perform against UConn, and SCar and Wilson have always had their troubles with UConn's style of play. That is the point.
I understand, but like how they're playing now !
What can I say. I'm a big SCar/A'ja/Dawn fan myself.
Obviously I'm not, but I know good bb when I see it
