Do we move up?!?

[auror]

I know Purdue beat good teams, but their loss is significantly worse than ours. We looked like a buzzsaw until going into the toughest environment in the country, top 5 team, and lost on a buzzer beater. I think that context matters too, but the difference between Purdue and UConn is marginal either way.

They're ranked higher in the predictive models, the resume models, and they were near unanimous #1 in the human polls this week before they (and us) lost. There's no justification for us ahead of them except "better loss", which is only 1 piece of resume. If we had a better win than N-Texas, then maybe there would be a conversation, but their resume is lightyears beyond ours at this point. Their 3rd best win is better than our best win.

 

[Huskyforlife]

They're ranked higher in the predictive models, the resume models, and they were near unanimous #1 in the human polls this week before they (and us) lost. There's no justification for us ahead of them except "better loss", which is only 1 piece of resume. If we had a better win than N-Texas, then maybe there would be a conversation, but their resume is lightyears beyond ours at this point. Their 3rd best win is better than our best win.

Are those predictive models still using data from last season? The human polls are subjective and have pre season bias that needs to start being baked out, now that we have current data and results to rank off of.

And I did acknowledge they have better wins, but I’d argue losing to the now 48th best team(Kenpom), is significant when we’re nitpicking 1 or 2 spot differences in the pole.

 

[auror]

Are those predictive models still using data from last season? The human polls are subjective and have pre season bias that needs to start being baked out, now that we have current data and results to rank off of.

And I did acknowledge they have better wins, but I’d argue losing to the now 48th best team(Kenpom), is significant when we’re nitpicking 1 or 2 spot differences in the pole.

But you're leaving out that it was also on the road in OT to 49th. so it's an overtime quad 1 loss. It's not a bad loss. Worse than at Kansas, sure, but it's 1 result and it does not make up the difference (their resume model WAB score is literally double ours).

And yes, if you remove pre-season bias on Torvik, Purdue's predictive rating is better than ours (but it's close).

 

[AntG168]

But you're leaving out that it was also on the road in OT to 49th. so it's an overtime quad 1 loss. It's not a bad loss. Worse than at Kansas, sure, but it's 1 result and it does not make up the difference (their resume model WAB score is literally double ours).

And yes, if you remove pre-season bias on Torvik, Purdue's predictive rating is better than ours (but it's close).

If roles were reversed they’d drop us 7 spots lol. Miss me with all this newfound “context” in AP voting

 

[HuskyHawk]

They're ranked higher in the predictive models, the resume models, and they were near unanimous #1 in the human polls this week before they (and us) lost. There's no justification for us ahead of them except "better loss", which is only 1 piece of resume. If we had a better win than N-Texas, then maybe there would be a conversation, but their resume is lightyears beyond ours at this point. Their 3rd best win is better than our best win.

I think you can make a case for UConn / Purdue next to each other in any order. I do think at AFH is the least bad loss you can have. And given that we had a chance to win if Spencer hits a 3 (or we make FTs) it's hard to ding us much for that. So I'd put UConn ahead of Purdue.

 

[brihman]

only Duke moves up when they lose, don't you know that?

They will still be number 18 or something

 

[BigTenFan]

Purdue plays Arizona in 2 weeks- that will be the real test

 

[mauconnfan]

Purdue beat Xavier, Tennessee, Gonzaga and Marquette and that counts right? They don’t only look at the losses. I’m good no matter where they put us we have so much more season and so much moving around. Wins, losses their all coming so no need to worry where we are on Dec 4.. just hope everyone is healthy soon!

 

[UConnSwag11]

Fanta has us at 4

 

[mauconnfan]

4

 

[HooperScooper]

Fanta has us at 4

Borges also. Says he would have had them #1 if they had beaten Kansas.

With a new No. 1 atop David Borges' AP Top 25 ballot, where does UConn men's basketball team land?

UConn men's basketball team was a missed 3-pointer away from being ranked No. 1 on David Borges' weekly AP Top 25 ballot.

www.nhregister.com

 

[connVA]

I’m guessing #5 behind Arizona, Kansas, Houston, and Purdue although it wouldn’t surprise me if we were 6 or 7. If we were Duke they’d put us at #3 where we belong but we’re not and they won’t. Even with a “good” loss, the pollsters love dropping us like we’re wearing concrete shoes.

 

[ctchamps]

Borges also. Says he would have had them #1 if they had beaten Kansas.

With a new No. 1 atop David Borges' AP Top 25 ballot, where does UConn men's basketball team land?

UConn men's basketball team was a missed 3-pointer away from being ranked No. 1 on David Borges' weekly AP Top 25 ballot.

www.nhregister.com

WTH! What does this have to do with ranking a team based on performance up to now:

"17. Duke: Coach K struggled in his first couple of seasons, too."

 

[CardiacAndre7]

#5

 

[elmcityboy]

looking at the rankings now -- is james madison just going to hang out in the top 25 all season? they have only beaten one "good" team and don't play anyone else for the rest of the season.

they're ranked #73 in kenpom.

 

[Waquoit]

Come on. Enough of the pity party. We are UConn.

Yeah, I hate that crap. I had a Red Sox fan at work doing the "poor me's" in 2005. C'mon man, buck up!

 

[Dibbie]

Zags and NC join the Top 10 at the perfect time. Winning those games would be huge going forward

 

[JohnnyJr]

Gonzaga and UNC are top 10 games now

 

[ucp990411]

Duke should move up, best 5-3 team ever and Ga Tech used to be good. Don’t forget in 2004 they were buried in the championship game by some team that Duke should have beaten in the semis but the refs gave the game to who ever they were playing.

 

[REB1094]

I’m not sure the voters actually watch basketball, but at the end of the day we have a top 10 matchup tomorrow and potentially another one next week

 

[auror]

looking at the rankings now -- is james madison just going to hang out in the top 25 all season? they have only beaten one "good" team and don't play anyone else for the rest of the season.

they're ranked #73 in kenpom.

Yes, which is why it was dumb to rank them at the time.

 

[Tenspro2002]

I’m not sure the voters actually watch basketball, but at the end of the day we have a top 10 matchup tomorrow and potentially another one next week

Big big big for cementing the perception of the program, essentially being a part of the biggest games of the week 3 weeks in a row.

 

[JB75]

I’ve said for past two weeks we gotta go 2-1 during this stretch. We can lose to either Kansas or zags on road but got to beat unc in garden tmrw night

 

[YoungFree]

Purdue at #3 is bogus. Lost to an unranked Northwestern team who is still unranked. Us dropping to #5 is understandable but we have a better loss then the Boilermakers.

 

[superjohn]

Purdue at #3 is bogus. Lost to an unranked Northwestern team who is still unranked. Us dropping to #5 is understandable but we have a better loss then the Boilermakers.

Well they're #4 so...