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Gus Mahler said:
Orang: Refresh us, please: Was this injury the result of a collision or fall last year? Seems like it happened right before the UCONN game.
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The injury last year happened in the Maryland game. She got tied up trying to grab a rebound and the Marland player ripped the ball away.
 
The ND girls will come out early fired up on adrenaline! Which will only carry them so far! Close early then UCONN's bigs will take over and lead a charge to a big win, possibly 25 to 30pts.
I don't want to hear "if we had Reimer & Turner we would have beaten UCONN!" Even with those 2 players UCONN would win by 25+ pts.!
As I stated earlier, the only 2 players that would make the 1st 2 teams on UCONN is Turner & Allen!
 
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billnaples said:
I think the psychology of the victory may be diminished with key people not playing or at least limited availability. Clearly UConn is no stranger to the injury bug. At various times we lost Ralph, Bird, Abrosimova, Tuck, and perhaps some I missed. In hindsight that 2001 loss without Svet and Shea may have cost UConn the shot at 4 or 5 NC's in a row. So anyway we can lament the loss that ND appears to have suffered but expect nothing in the UConn effort to change. Those who touted the recruting class of the Irish need them to step up big and fast
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Thomas, Valley, Chong, Butler, Tina. More. Uconn has not been without physical problems, crossing my fingers and toes. Losing Shea and Svetie I said--there goes the franchise. Sue and Svetie (as Sue calls her) had a large influence for me to spend more time watching Uconn Women vs Uconn Men.
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
The ND girls will come out early fired up on adrenaline! Which will only carry them so far! Close early then UCONN's bigs will take over and lead a charge to a big win, possibly 25 to 30pts.
I don't want to hear "if we had Reimer & Turner we would have beaten UCONN!" Even with those 2 players UCONN would win by 25+ pts.!
As I stated earlier, the only 2 players that would make the 1st 2 teams on UCONN is Turner & Allen!
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Expect Notre Dame to come to the game ready to play--regardless of who is on the floor. You are correct they will be pushed emotionally to play for the injured ND players and they shall.
 
With or without Brianna, a national championship for ND, or for any team not named UConn, is almost certainly not in the cards this season. Seems to me that no decision for Brianna should be made on the basis of short-term goals. If medically feasible, I'd like to see her get her shoulder surgically repaired, redshirt, and come back strong for 2016-17. They've got great recruits and their long-term future is very bright.
 
Bigpetunia said:
With or without Brianna, a national championship for ND, or for any team not named UConn, is almost certainly not in the cards this season. Seems to me that no decision for Brianna should be made on the basis of short-term goals. If medically feasible, I'd like to see her get her shoulder surgically repaired, redshirt, and come back strong for 2016-17. They've got great recruits and their long-term future is very bright.
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As I posted earlier, I agree with you on this one. Of course, we are somewhat shooting in the dark. What we know is that 2 Novembers in a row have produced a shoulder injury. Last year she was playing very successfully January ? on out. Does she have a rotator cuff tear and, if so, how severe. If she has a significant tear a month of rehab will do zip for her. If it's a loose shoulder, you can strengthen the muscles, but it can still fall out. It's a puzzler unless it is simply a strain injury. If she succeeds in making it through the season and then has surgery she's looking at 6 months of recovery- that's November 2016.
 
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Bigpetunia said:
With or without Brianna, a national championship for ND, or for any team not named UConn, is almost certainly not in the cards this season. Seems to me that no decision for Brianna should be made on the basis of short-term goals. If medically feasible, I'd like to see her get her shoulder surgically repaired, redshirt, and come back strong for 2016-17. They've got great recruits and their long-term future is very bright.
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As a loyal GENO Fan--this DePaul game has proven a motivated, well coached team can get close. Geno has said that to win it all and play 6 games in April is a crap shoot, some match up luck is required. However a top team has less luck and more skill.
Still in every game there must be a winner and a loser---if winning was a given, no one would play for the NC.
 
BroadwayVa said:
As a loyal GENO Fan--this DePaul game has proven a motivated, well coached team can get close. Geno has said that to win it all and play 6 games in April is a crap shoot, some match up luck is required. However a top team has less luck and more skill.
Still in every game there must be a winner and a loser---if winning was a given, no one would play for the NC.
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Well, 'tis the reason I used the words "almost certainly."
 
Bigpetunia said:
Well, 'tis the reason I used the words "almost certainly."
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Sorry, I certainly didn't mean to NIT PICK--I detest that so. I wasn't disputing anything you said--except-- As we all have anointed UConn as the next (again) NC--it's nice to remember --it isn't a given. I apologize for appearing to pic nits.
 
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Behold one form of the beloved nit! :

the egg or young form of a louse or other parasitic insect, especially the egg of a head louse attached to a human hair.

I suspect Orangutan is an expert on nits. :rolleyes:
 
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The other form of the nit. Of course, before Kib strikes I should acknowledge that an alternative meaning is to pick at some minor foible or defect in a fellow human being, but that did derive from the real nit picking - louse extraction.
 
Bigpetunia said:
With or without Brianna, a national championship for ND, or for any team not named UConn, is almost certainly not in the cards this season. Seems to me that no decision for Brianna should be made on the basis of short-term goals. If medically feasible, I'd like to see her get her shoulder surgically repaired, redshirt, and come back strong for 2016-17. They've got great recruits and their long-term future is very bright.
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Kind of my thought too. If, IF, someone is unfortunate enough to have to redshirt, this is the year to do it. Because I don't think anyone is touching UCONN this year. (knock on wood for injuries).
 
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BroadwayVa said:
Wasn't downtown Brown on that team?? Clyde the Glide was on Houston U along with the guy who took on Alcindor.
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"Downtown Freddy " Brown starred for Seattle. That "other guy" was Elvin Hayes. Back to ND's injuries, OK? :rolleyes:
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
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Behold one form of the beloved nit! :

the egg or young form of a louse or other parasitic insect, especially the egg of a head louse attached to a human hair.

I suspect Orangutan is an expert on nits. :rolleyes:
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Cooties they called them when they wore pooties(sp?). Currently a huge problems in a lot of schools. All the nitpickers are picking nits.
 
BroadwayVa said:
Cooties they called them when they wore pooties(sp?). Currently a huge problems in a lot of schools. All the nitpickers are picking nits.
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Big deal as school began this fall in lots of places, because of at least the reason that strains of head lice are evolving resistant to the active ingredients in over the counter preparations.
 
"we all have anointed UConn as the next (again) NC . . "

Speak for yourself. I think "we all" consider UConn the odds on favorite but my guess is that at least some of "we all" will wait for the final buzzer of the final game.
 
Kibitzer said:
"Downtown Freddy " Brown starred for Seattle. That other guy was Elvin Hayes. Back to ND's injuries, OK? :rolleyes:
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Thanks Alvin Hayes, Houston Fantastic long ball shooter--hence Downtown. Thanks. Great game between Kareem (Alcindor) and Alvin Hayes in Houston
 
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vtcwbuff said:
"we all have anointed UConn as the next (again) NC . . "

Speak for yourself. I think "we all" consider UConn the odds on favorite but my guess is that at least some of "we all" will wait for the final buzzer of the final game.
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Actually I haven't anointed them NC---the WE was the YOU type WE--I prefer to wait for the game. It always give me a good feeling to actually see it than to Imagine it.
Un like nit pickers I don't presume to speak for others.
 
vtcwbuff said:
"we all have anointed UConn as the next (again) NC . . "

Speak for yourself. I think "we all" consider UConn the odds on favorite but my guess is that at least some of "we all" will wait for the final buzzer of the final game.
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interesting what a nit picking will leave out to make his/her point--As we all have anointed UConn as the next (again) NC--it's nice to remember --it isn't a given.
 
donalddoowop said:
UCONN's not at full strength.
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Notre Dame is missing 2 starters (one of whom is ND's best player) and three McDonald's AA. UConn is missing 2 players who have not yet played a game for UConn (one of whom is a McDonald's AA). That is not even close to equivalent.
 
WestCoastFan said:
Absolutely not. Injuries are part of the game. Miss Muffet has plenty of talent...according to the recruiting services. Next in line, time to step up.
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ND does have a a lot of talent on the team, but most are younger players. When Jewell Loyd left early after last season, it seriously lowered the talent that Muffet had been cultivating in South Bend. And now with injuries to starters Turner and Reimer, Notre Dame starts a team far less-talented than UConn according to those recruiting experts to whom you refer.

Notre Dame will start 2 seniors who were rated in the 50's in Hoopgurlz. UConn's senior starters were rated #1 and #2.

UConn starts red-shirt junior Tuck (rated 6th) while ND counters with sophomore Kathryn Westbeld (rated 21st), who would not be starting if ND's forwards were healthy.

Sophomore Kia Nurse was rated by Hoopsgurlz as 33rd (but far higher by other services), and ND starts senior Michaela Mabrey (rated 33rd by Hoopgurlz, although she was a McDonald's AA).

UConn starts sophomore Gabby Williams (rated 14th) and ND counters with junior Lindsay Allen (rated 25th).

ND will bring in talented freshman Arike Ogunbowale (10th) and Marina Mabrey (24th) on the bench, while UConn counters with talented freshmen Lou Samuelson (#1) and Napheesa Collier (#6). Arike and Marina were rated higher by other services, but never higher than Lou and Napheesa.
 
Fightin Choke said:
ND does have a a lot of talent on the team, but most are younger players. When Jewell Loyd left early after last season, it seriously lowered the talent that Muffet had been cultivating in South Bend. And now with injuries to starters Turner and Reimer, Notre Dame starts a team far less-talented than UConn according to those recruiting experts to whom you refer.

Notre Dame will start 2 seniors who were rated in the 50's in Hoopgurlz. UConn's senior starters were rated #1 and #2.

UConn starts red-shirt junior Tuck (rated 6th) while ND counters with sophomore Kathryn Westbeld (rated 21st), who would not be starting if ND's forwards were healthy.

Sophomore Kia Nurse was rated by Hoopsgurlz as 33rd (but far higher by other services), and ND starts senior Michaela Mabrey (rated 33rd by Hoopgurlz, although she was a McDonald's AA).

UConn starts sophomore Gabby Williams (rated 14th) and ND counters with junior Lindsay Allen (rated 25th).

ND will bring in talented freshman Arike Ogunbowale (10th) and Marina Mabrey (24th) on the bench, while UConn counters with talented freshmen Lou Samuelson (#1) and Napheesa Collier (#6). Arike and Marina were rated higher by other services, but never higher than Lou and Napheesa.
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I was being facetious. Rankings mean absolutely zilch once the players show up at school. Then the coaching takes over.
 
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WestCoastFan said:
I was being facetious. Rankings mean absolutely zilch once the players show up at school. Then the coaching takes over.
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Ranking certainly don't guarantee any sort of success, but they are certainly correlated with success. Geno is a great coach, but part of his greatness is convincing great players to come to UConn. (Since Tina Charles, what percent of #1 players have chosen UConn?) It isn't like he was the only coach to realize that Maya, Diana, Stewie, Lou. Napheesa, Moriah, and Morgan were going to be great players. While he doesn't only look at a player's skills (intangibles are VERY important), his success at UConn has him in the enviable position of being very selective in acquiring highly skilled players who also have the intangibles required for team success.
 
Fightin Choke said:
Sophomore Kia Nurse was rated by Hoopsgurlz as 33rd (but far higher by other services), and ND starts senior Michaela Mabrey (rated 33rd by Hoopgurlz, although she was a McDonald's AA).
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Kia wasn't an AA because she's Canadian, in fact she's the starting PG for the Canadian National Team. She and Natalie Achonwa are teammates :-)

Hmm, Svet Abrosimova was an AA. Wonder how that works? Anyway, I don't recall having seen a high school AA from another country.
 
HuskyNan said:
Kia wasn't an AA because she's Canadian, in fact she's the starting PG for the Canadian National Team. She and Natalie Achonwa are teammates :)

Hmm, Svet Abrosimova was an AA. Wonder how that works? Anyway, I don't recall having seen a high school AA from another country.
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Oh, I know Kia is Canadian, and I saw her success this summer representing her country alongside Natalie. I only listed Michaela's AA status because I was trying to be as fair as possible in mentioning accolades of all the Notre Dame players since my main point was that UConn has far more talent available today than the Irish.
 
Fightin Choke said:
Ranking certainly don't guarantee any sort of success, but they are certainly correlated with success. Geno is a great coach, but part of his greatness is convincing great players to come to UConn. (Since Tina Charles, what percent of #1 players have chosen UConn?) It isn't like he was the only coach to realize that Maya, Diana, Stewie, Lou. Napheesa, Moriah, and Morgan were going to be great players. While he doesn't only look at a player's skills (intangibles are VERY important), his success at UConn has him in the enviable position of being very selective in acquiring highly skilled players who also have the intangibles required for team success.
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Nykesha Sales, 1994 - USA Today high school POY
Shea Ralph, 1996, No. 1
Tamika Williams, 1998, No. 1
Diana Taurasi, 2000, No. 1
Ann Strother, 2002, No. 1
Tina Charles, 2006, Hoopgurlz No. 1 (Maya Moore won the Naismith as a junior)
Maya Moore, 2007, No. 1
Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis, 2011, No. 1
Breanna Stewart, 2012, No. 1
Katie Lou Samuelson, 2015, No. 1

Geno also signed 2008 No. 1 Elena Delle Donne who elected to go elsewhere.
 
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