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ND has demonstrated that they have no desire to be a member of the Big Ten under just about any probable scenario.

Only scenario I can see ND going to the B1G is if the ACC is the conference to explode and is primarily eaten by the B1G. The PAC is too far away for ND's non-football sports. The XII, which I assume under this scenario has stayed as it, only offers 1 attractive market to ND - Texas. The B1G on the other hand could offer NYC (Rutgers and hopefully UConn), DC (Maryland & Virginia), the Carolinas (NC), Atlanta (G Tech) and access to FL via Florida State plus its frenemies in the Midwest. Hard to beat.
 
I love baseball as much as anyone, but we are at least a month away from playing baseball outside of a gym around here. Only 50 miles outside the city, we received 30 to 40 inches of snow this past weekend in the mountains, so its still ski/snowboard/snowmobile season around here. Even saw a group using dog sleds this past weekend, something I never expected to see in PA.

I think the timing of the college baseball season really hurts northern universities. The Pitt baseball schedule starts Feb 14 and ends May 17. We play the first 17 games on the road and then 12 of the next 15 at home to try and get even. The prime time to play baseball in northern cities is from May through Sept, which is the time during which recreational and youth ball is played. Also, attendance at pro baseball thrives during these months, when compared to chilly April games. I understand why the college baseball season is from mid Feb to mid May (coincide with spring semester and allow for college tournys), but participation/competition from northern colleges would increase greatly if the season was from mid March or April through June.

It was last year or the year before when MN has such a bad winter in spring, high school baseball teams around Minneapolis were booking 2 AM slots in the Metrodome (may she rest in peace) just to get a game in. This winter in Jersey, HS and rec baseball is scheduled to start in 3 weeks. Right now, the main rec field is under 4 feet of snow and some of the snow piles in the parking lot may live to see the 4th of July fireworks show at this rate.
 
I moved to Baton Rouge from the Pittsburgh area in 1983. I live about 75 miles from New Orleans.

I can attest that baseball is the second most important sport after men's basketball at Tulane. Their baseball program has been pretty good the past 15 or so years.

Football? Dismal. I went to a Tulane/Syracuse game a couple of years ago. There were about 6,000 fans in the 65,0000 seat Superdome. About half were traveling Syracuse fans. It was kind of sad to see.

There is no enthusiasm for football. Tulane has lost most of its football fan base. Hurricane Katrina sure didn't help things.

It was a bit different in the Eighties when Tulane beat LSU a few times. The Green Wave went 12-0 in 1998. Maybe the new on campus stadium they are building will help. I don't know.

Good football or bad, the new stadium at Tulane looks nice and with UConn travelling there this fall, I am trying to talk a buddy into using at as an excuse for a weekend road trip to New Orleans. With the wife's permission of course :cool:
 
The ACC is where ND wants to be.

ND hockey moved to the Hockey East Conference.


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Agreed. ND will try to remain as independent in football for as long as possible ( but with half its schedule made up each year of ACC football teams). ND's decision to accept the invite of the Hockey East league over that of the new BIG 10 Hockey League pretty much shows where they will put their football program fully some day, and it most certainly won't be the Big 10. If and when ND comes in to the ACC, my guess then the ACC will then vote immediately on bringing in Uconn or Cincy ( or the football winner of the AAC most years ) to make it 16.
 
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Agreed. ND will try to remain as independent in football for as long as possible ( but with half its schedule made up each year of ACC football teams). ND's decision to accept the invite of the Hockey East league over that of the new BIG 10 Hockey League pretty much shows where they will put their football program fully some day, and it most certainly won't be the Big 10. If and when ND comes in to the ACC, my guess then the ACC will then vote immediately on bringing in Uconn or Cincy ( or the football winner of the AAC most years ) to make it 16.

ND had an invite to B1G10 hockey? Never heard that before.

ND went with the ACC because it allowed them to remain independent. Nothing more than that. You can't trust ND.
 
ND had an invite to B1G10 hockey? Never heard that before.

ND went with the ACC because it allowed them to remain independent. Nothing more than that. You can't trust ND.
Their pretty boldly arrogant already in the ACC trying to get out of playing certain teams in neutral venues rather than give some of the lesser lights(SU/BC) a real homegame and playing in front of their fan's in places like Metlife 250 miles away from CNY and Cuses core fans are pizzed they won't bless their Dome w/a visit.
 
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Their pretty boldly arrogant already in the ACC trying to get out of playing certain teams in neutral venues rather than give some of the lesser lights(SU/BC) a real homegame and playing in front of their fan's in places like Metlife 250 miles away from CNY and Cuses core fans are pizzed they won't bless their Dome w/a visit.


Nicky:

The Met Life games were scheduled before ND and Syracuse joined the ACC.

Syracuse had the option of changing the venue but wants to be "New York's team" and wanted the games to be held at Met Life. Similarly, Syracuse has played Southern Cal at Met Life.

ND and BC collaborated with the Fenway Park game. ND did not put a shotgun at the BC AD's head.

Syracuse fans don't like the Met Life games, period. But, this has nothing to do with ND joining the ACC. They are mad at their AD for playing several Syracuse home games (not just with ND) at Met Life.

ND wants the East Coast exposure that the ACC provides, Upstater, a ND was in talks to join the Big 12 as a partial member, but preferred the ACC.

There are quotes from Deloss Dodds and Bob Bowlsby about how surprised they were that ND chose the ACC instead of the Big 12 for partial membership.
 
Nicky:

The Met Life games were scheduled before ND and Syracuse joined the ACC.

Syracuse had the option of changing the venue but wants to be "New York's team" and wanted the games to be held at Met Life. Similarly, Syracuse has played Southern Cal at Met Life.

ND and BC collaborated with the Fenway Park game. ND did not put a shotgun at the BC AD's head.

Syracuse fans don't like the Met Life games, period. But, this has nothing to do with ND joining the ACC. They are mad at their AD for playing several Syracuse home games (not just with ND) at Met Life.

ND wants the East Coast exposure that the ACC provides, Upstater, a ND was in talks to join the Big 12 as a partial member, but preferred the ACC.

There are quotes from Deloss Dodds and Bob Bowlsby about how surprised they were that ND chose the ACC instead of the Big 12 for partial membership.
Nunes had a whole story on that issue firing up their "base"!! SU FB fans are the funniest out there? They ARE in NY yet to become NY's team they have to play in NJ? What a quagmire their in ! Lately there fans are concerned with UB because they don't like UB wants to become NY's team.....how dare they?
 
Nicky:

The Met Life games were scheduled before ND and Syracuse joined the ACC.

Syracuse had the option of changing the venue but wants to be "New York's team" and wanted the games to be held at Met Life. Similarly, Syracuse has played Southern Cal at Met Life.

ND and BC collaborated with the Fenway Park game. ND did not put a shotgun at the BC AD's head.

Syracuse fans don't like the Met Life games, period. But, this has nothing to do with ND joining the ACC. They are mad at their AD for playing several Syracuse home games (not just with ND) at Met Life.

ND wants the East Coast exposure that the ACC provides, Upstater, a ND was in talks to join the Big 12 as a partial member, but preferred the ACC.

There are quotes from Deloss Dodds and Bob Bowlsby about how surprised they were that ND chose the ACC instead of the Big 12 for partial membership.
Terry will ND play WF at Wakes HF or VA at home or in DC??
 
Yep...Independence is #1 for the Domers.

Independence has been part of the Notre Dame DNA for my lifetime.

It is their identity...a national program playing a national schedule.

Why change? Unless you absolutely have to.
 
I'm cool with that.

Hardly any FSU fans are really ACC guys....it is just a place to play.
 
It was last year or the year before when MN has such a bad winter in spring, high school baseball teams around Minneapolis were booking 2 AM slots in the Metrodome (may she rest in peace) just to get a game in. This winter in Jersey, HS and rec baseball is scheduled to start in 3 weeks. Right now, the main rec field is under 4 feet of snow and some of the snow piles in the parking lot may live to see the 4th of July fireworks show at this rate.

I do not recall that exact situation, but I have heard of similar situations. For HS season around here, we have had to rescheduled early season baseball games to be played on turf football fields or schools that have crushed brick infileds (if not familiar, they drain very well) have allowed nieghboring schools to use their field for games. Like you said, HS baseball games start in just a couple weeks and we still have fields covered in a foot of snow. Weather is warming up this weekend (high in the 40's), but is dropping back to highs below freezing for all of next week. Similar to the problem with College baseball up north, the HS season is a spring sport and much of the season is played in poor conditions. Although the weather puts a damper on College and HS early spring baseball seasons, we (unlike Billy) will be able to enjoy baseball all summer long without the unbearable heat.
 
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Terry will ND play WF at Wakes HF or VA at home or in DC??


ND played Wake Forest at Wake Forest in 2011. My best guess is that ND's away games with Wake Forest and Virginia will be at their home stadiums.
 
The only reason Notre Dame put their other sports in the ACC is because the Big East broke up. Otherwise, they would still be in the Big East.

They didn't join the ACC so that they could move their football there, they just wanted to have the chance of bowl games for their football program and a place to take revenues for their olympic sports and no other conference was going to allow Notre Dame to take their bowls and football revenues without being a full member.

As long as ND thinks it has access to decent bowl games and a chance to play in the playoffs, they aren't going to join a conference at all. Ever.
 
The only reason Notre Dame put their other sports in the ACC is because the Big East broke up. Otherwise, they would still be in the Big East.

They didn't join the ACC so that they could move their football there, they just wanted to have the chance of bowl games for their football program and a place to take revenues for their olympic sports and no other conference was going to allow Notre Dame to take their bowls and football revenues without being a full member.

As long as ND thinks it has access to decent bowl games and a chance to play in the playoffs, they aren't going to join a conference at all. Ever.

Swofford may be the only person who doesn't realize this.
 
Nicky:
ND and BC collaborated with the Fenway Park game. ND did not put a shotgun at the BC AD's head.
BC is the visiting team for the Fenway game. It is not replacing any home game on BC's schedule.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...lege_will_take_on_notre_dame_in_the_firs.html

BC has not given up a home game for this. There was a rumor that this game was going to be played in Ireland originally before ND chose to move it to Fenway. BC will play ND at home and against ND at whatever home venue ND chooses as part of the rotation in the ACC.

While I think the ACC did bend over to take ND, one of the keys to ND and the ACC for FB is that while ND does have access to some of the bowls, they do not have access to the Orange Bowl as the ACC representative. They have a separate relationship with the Orange that could result in a match up against an ACC opponent. The big difference for the ACC is they 5 FB games they extracted from ND every year versus some very fuzzy bowl alliances the BE was able to get from ND. Every one of those 5 games will be on a primary broadcast be it NBC or the Mickey Mouse channel. The BE got none of that from ND.

And for Nicky, ND will play as the visiting team wherever the home team decides in this relationship. They have no leverage as the visiting team with this agreement. They may want to suggest alternate venues but the home team decides. And I believe the home team will look at it from a purely economic view as to whether the venue makes sense or not. Cuse played USC at Met Life too. That was Cuse's choice. USC is playing BC at BC this season. That is BC's choice. BC will play ND at BC, Wake wil play at Wake, UNC at Chapel Hill, etc. Mark it down.
 
Swofford may be the only person who doesn't realize this.
I think he does. But he may also realize that if ND finds itself shut out of the FB playoff system with 1 or 2 losses versus SEC/B1G/Pac/ACC teams with 1 or 2 losses over 13 games versus their 12 games (the championship games will be big in the new format), they will need to make a change. And they will move to whatever conference is best for them (I think that is the B1G). Worst case for ACC, expansion within 5 years of the playoff to 8 teams. Cements ND as an independent for a long time.
 
And when they have to, there will be absolutely no allegiances.

Bingo. And so my scenario of ND to the B1G with UConn isn't out of the question, if they have no choice. I don't buy the recruiting access argument. You don't need to play in the south to recruit in the south. ND can recruit anywhere. They are in the ACC because they cherish independence, nothing more.

P.S. B1G has new media contract coming up. It's already the best, imagine what it would be with Notre Dame? I don't think the ACC can compete, if ND has to go all in. The good news in either case, is that UConn is their ideal partner either way.
 
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Notre Dame will have difficulty in the playoffs getting in over an undefeated or 1 loss team from the BIG 12, SEC, Big Ten, Pac 12 and even ACC. They can't win a conference championship and the committee has reported that will be part of the criteria considered.

Really at some point you have to wonder why the SEC, Big Ten, BIG 12 and Pac 12 would consider ND for inclusion in the playoffs. Obviously the ACC has no choice if they want ND's other sports and some games in football to improve their SOS. Why the four conferences would take the chance of ND getting one of their spots is unkown. Guessing the playoff tv partner desired that be the case--will be interesting to see if that holds up after the first contract is up.
 
BC is the visiting team for the Fenway game. It is not replacing any home game on BC's schedule.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...lege_will_take_on_notre_dame_in_the_firs.html

BC has not given up a home game for this. There was a rumor that this game was going to be played in Ireland originally before ND chose to move it to Fenway. BC will play ND at home and against ND at whatever home venue ND chooses as part of the rotation in the ACC.

While I think the ACC did bend over to take ND, one of the keys to ND and the ACC for FB is that while ND does have access to some of the bowls, they do not have access to the Orange Bowl as the ACC representative. They have a separate relationship with the Orange that could result in a match up against an ACC opponent. The big difference for the ACC is they 5 FB games they extracted from ND every year versus some very fuzzy bowl alliances the BE was able to get from ND. Every one of those 5 games will be on a primary broadcast be it NBC or the Mickey Mouse channel. The BE got none of that from ND.

And for Nicky, ND will play as the visiting team wherever the home team decides in this relationship. They have no leverage as the visiting team with this agreement. They may want to suggest alternate venues but the home team decides. And I believe the home team will look at it from a purely economic view as to whether the venue makes sense or not. Cuse played USC at Met Life too. That was Cuse's choice. USC is playing BC at BC this season. That is BC's choice. BC will play ND at BC, Wake wil play at Wake, UNC at Chapel Hill, etc. Mark it down.
2015- Notre Dame collaborated to move it's home game from South Bend to Fenway Park as the home team as we all know.
2017- As announced by the B.C. Athletic Director B.B. on Dec 20th, 2013 B.C. will host N.D. at Chestnut Hill.
No need to mark it down as it is already INKED.
 
I'm cool with that.

Hardly any FSU fans are really ACC guys....it is just a place to play.

That's more like it!

IMO, the best fit for FSU is the SEC. I would love the "close" away game schedule - eg. Gainesville, Athens, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Columbia, Nashville, Oxford, Knoxville - all doable via car and great venues to boot.
 
ND wants neutral site games and ACC schools are happy to play neutral site games for their home portion of playing Notre Dame. Of course ND won't play in Chicago or Indianapolis or St. Louis when its time to have the ACC teams play them. It's a one way street that fans of the old Big East know too well.
 
That's more like it!

IMO, the best fit for FSU is the SEC. I would love the "close" away game schedule - eg. Gainesville, Athens, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Columbia, Nashville, Oxford, Knoxville - all doable via car and great venues to boot.


Unfortunately, the SEC doesn't gain anything from an FSU addition.
 
ND wants neutral site games and ACC schools are happy to play neutral site games for their home portion of playing Notre Dame. Of course ND won't play in Chicago or Indianapolis or St. Louis when its time to have the ACC teams play them. It's a one way street that fans of the old Big East know too well.
You are flat out wrong on this point. ND plays the ACC teams as the visitor where the home team wants to play. All of the neutral site games in the past and going forward for ND (except for Cuse) have been part of their Shamrock Series where ND is the home team and controls the gate and the TV. UNC, Duke, NC State, FSU, Pitt, Miami, VT, BC, Wake, etc. will all play ND in their home stadiums. Alternate venues are not happening. While Cuse may choose to move games as part of their NY Team initiative, that is their choice and they are doing it because of their own economic motivations or because of a previous contract.
http://www.mike-nd.com/sched-f.htm
 
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You are flat out wrong on this point. ND plays the ACC teams as the visitor where the home team wants to play. All of the neutral site games in the past and going forward for ND (except for Cuse) have been part of their Shamrock Series where ND is the home team and controls the gate and the TV. UNC, Duke, NC State, FSU, Pitt, Miami, VT, BC, Wake, etc. will all play ND in their home stadiums. Alternate venues are not happening. While Cuse may choose to move games as part of their NY Team initiative, that is their choice and they are doing it because of their own economic motivations or because of a previous contract.
http://www.mike-nd.com/sched-f.htm


Syracuse will play ND away from home. They had decided to play some games in NYC, they hadn't decided the games were to be ND games originally. BC fairly recently agreed to play ND games away from home at Fenway--just this past December. This is ND's desire as it was when the Big East attempted to schedule ND games. Home games for ND, away games for the partial conference opponent. There are likely to be more moves like this with some of the programs when its ND's turn to go to the opponents home field.
 
Agreed. ND will try to remain as independent in football for as long as possible ( but with half its schedule made up each year of ACC football teams). ND's decision to accept the invite of the Hockey East league over that of the new BIG 10 Hockey League pretty much shows where they will put their football program fully some day, and it most certainly won't be the Big 10. If and when ND comes in to the ACC, my guess then the ACC will then vote immediately on bringing in Uconn or Cincy ( or the football winner of the AAC most years ) to make it 16.

I've been a defender of the ACC for the most part over the past couple of years (and I've been criticized by many of my Big Ten brethren when I've done so), but the hubris that I've been seeing from many ACC fans lately is laughable. They're doing the same thing that the delusional Big 12 fans did last year (when they were dreaming of poaching Florida State and Clemson), only now it's about Notre Dame joining as a full member. Both the ACC and Big 12 fans have mistaken *survival* (as a result of key schools like UNC and Texas choosing to stay where they are) for strength (which only the Big Ten and SEC really have by comparison, while the Pac-12 is protected by geography). When you lose schools to other conferences, you have some type of underlying problem. Period. No revisionist history about what the value of Maryland might be or how the newcomers will supposedly be stronger changes that. Maybe the problem isn't quite as severe across the board (I think the Big 12 is a heck of a lot more vulnerable long-term than the ACC, for instance), but there are definitely issues if that occurs.

At the same time, the suggestion that the Big Ten offered Notre Dame hockey membership is patently, 110%, completely and unambiguously FALSE. The Big Ten (unlike the ACC) hasn't offered Notre Dame any type of partial membership at any level and NEVER will. Even in the message board world, I don't see many outright lies that often, but the thought that ND could have ever joined the Big Ten for hockey without joining for football and all other sports is absolutely a lie.

This lie doesn't even make sense for the conspiracy theorists/rumor mongers out there. The Big Ten had 5 hockey playing schools for decades upon decades when inviting 1 other hockey-playing school (whether it was ND or someone else) would have allowed it to form a hockey league. *That* would have been the time for the Big Ten to invite ND for hockey. However, the Big Ten chose to wait decades upon decades and didn't form a league until another full member (Penn State) created a hockey program. So, why the heck would the Big Ten suddenly want to invite ND (or anyone else) *now*? That makes no sense.

To be sure, I don't blame the ACC for granting ND a partial membership. In fact, it will likely work out fine for both parties. Getting ND to play 5 ACC opponents per year (assuming they live up to that bargain) honestly isn't a bad deal. However, do NOT mistake this partial membership as any indication whatsoever that ND is going to join as a full member down the road. ND did this because they would take a partial membership *anywhere* before choosing to join a conference as a football member. If the ACC wanted to push ND, the Irish would just propose the same partial membership arrangement with the Big 12 (who has already offered it) or, worst case, go back and play basketball with its old Catholic buddies in the new Big East and keep on trucking along with football independence. I know it still sounds crazy to 99% of college football fans, but independence in and of itself is what matters to Domers - it can't be emphasized enough how important that is (and with the Big 12 and Big East sitting there as non-football options, their alums will not accept the notion that there aren't alternatives to joining the ACC full-time).

Any ACC fan that believes that ND would join as a football member would probably also believe that the ACC could reverse-raid the Big Ten, and anyone that believes that has to be automatically discounted as having any understanding of the overall conference realignment landscape and pecking order.
 
ND wants neutral site games and ACC schools are happy to play neutral site games for their home portion of playing Notre Dame. Of course ND won't play in Chicago or Indianapolis or St. Louis when its time to have the ACC teams play them. It's a one way street that fans of the old Big East know too well.



Welcome to the forum, Buck. Nice to see you here along with the WVU Scout Big 12 forum and CSNbbs realignment forum.

Have you read this thread, Buck?

ND gave up a HOME game at South Bend to play BC at Fenway Park. BC did not give up its home game for a neutral site.

The Syracuse/ND games at Met Life were scheduled BEFORE ND joined the ACC and the Syracuse AD wants the games to be played there, just like he wanted the Syracuse home game with Southern Cal to be played there.
 
I've been a defender of the ACC for the most part over the past couple of years (and I've been criticized by many of my Big Ten brethren when I've done so), but the hubris that I've been seeing from many ACC fans lately is laughable. They're doing the same thing that the delusional Big 12 fans did last year (when they were dreaming of poaching Florida State and Clemson), only now it's about Notre Dame joining as a full member. Both the ACC and Big 12 fans have mistaken *survival* (as a result of key schools like UNC and Texas choosing to stay where they are) for strength (which only the Big Ten and SEC really have by comparison, while the Pac-12 is protected by geography). When you lose schools to other conferences, you have some type of underlying problem. Period. No revisionist history about what the value of Maryland might be or how the newcomers will supposedly be stronger changes that. Maybe the problem isn't quite as severe across the board (I think the Big 12 is a heck of a lot more vulnerable long-term than the ACC, for instance), but there are definitely issues if that occurs.

At the same time, the suggestion that the Big Ten offered Notre Dame hockey membership is patently, 110%, completely and unambiguously FALSE. The Big Ten (unlike the ACC) hasn't offered Notre Dame any type of partial membership at any level and NEVER will. Even in the message board world, I don't see many outright lies that often, but the thought that ND could have ever joined the Big Ten for hockey without joining for football and all other sports is absolutely a lie.

This lie doesn't even make sense for the conspiracy theorists/rumor mongers out there. The Big Ten had 5 hockey playing schools for decades upon decades when inviting 1 other hockey-playing school (whether it was ND or someone else) would have allowed it to form a hockey league. *That* would have been the time for the Big Ten to invite ND for hockey. However, the Big Ten chose to wait decades upon decades and didn't form a league until another full member (Penn State) created a hockey program. So, why the heck would the Big Ten suddenly want to invite ND (or anyone else) *now*? That makes no sense.

To be sure, I don't blame the ACC for granting ND a partial membership. In fact, it will likely work out fine for both parties. Getting ND to play 5 ACC opponents per year (assuming they live up to that bargain) honestly isn't a bad deal. However, do NOT mistake this partial membership as any indication whatsoever that ND is going to join as a full member down the road. ND did this because they would take a partial membership *anywhere* before choosing to join a conference as a football member. If the ACC wanted to push ND, the Irish would just propose the same partial membership arrangement with the Big 12 (who has already offered it) or, worst case, go back and play basketball with its old Catholic buddies in the new Big East and keep on trucking along with football independence. I know it still sounds crazy to 99% of college football fans, but independence in and of itself is what matters to Domers - it can't be emphasized enough how important that is (and with the Big 12 and Big East sitting there as non-football options, their alums will not accept the notion that there aren't alternatives to joining the ACC full-time).

Any ACC fan that believes that ND would join as a football member would probably also believe that the ACC could reverse-raid the Big Ten, and anyone that believes that has to be automatically discounted as having any understanding of the overall conference realignment landscape and pecking order.


For the record, I agree with all of this. I also was not the one who said that the Big Ten offered hockey membership to ND.

What I said was that joining the ACC as a partial member and Hockey East as a member shows where (geographically) ND wants to be. It ain't the Big Ten and likely never will be.

It would have been easy for ND to join the Big Ten in 2010. Many assumed and expected that Jim Delany had "checkmated" ND because the BTN would pay more money than the NBC contract.

They thought that ND would fall to the Big Ten like ripened fruit, mainly because it made TV dollar sense (which is what solely drives expansion options at other schools).

After all, ND would make the most TV dollars in the Big Ten. Travel costs for basketball and other sports would decrease. It would keep the games with Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue going as conference games, freeing up slots for OOC games for other schools.

They were dead wrong. Nobody asked ND about that.

ND rejected all of this in favor of independence and partial ACC membership, even though that means less money in the coffers from ESPN/Fox and the Big Ten Network.

ND does not ever want to be part of the Big Ten Conference and will avoid that fate at all costs.

Frank knows this very well. He was one who thought ND was "checkmated" in 2010, but has since done a 180 on this issue.
 
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Syracuse will play ND away from home. They had decided to play some games in NYC, they hadn't decided the games were to be ND games originally. BC fairly recently agreed to play ND games away from home at Fenway--just this past December. This is ND's desire as it was when the Big East attempted to schedule ND games. Home games for ND, away games for the partial conference opponent. There are likely to be more moves like this with some of the programs when its ND's turn to go to the opponents home field.
The BC game at Fenway is an ND home game. BC was scheduled to go to South Bend in 2015 or possibly Ireland. BC is the visitor. The next time BC plays ND at home it will be at BC. Do you want me to type it slower so you can understand? Look at the future ACC schedule. The games away will be played on the ACC campus. In 2015 that is at Pitt, at Clemson at UVa. In 2016 it at NC State and at Cuse in MetLife. In 2017 it is at BC, at Miami and at Lville.
http://www.mike-nd.com/sched-f.htm
The Cuse playing ND at MetLife, that is CUse's choosing. None of those other teams will move the games off campus. They don't have too.

This is 1000% different than what ND wanted from the BE. ND wanted every series to be a 2 for 1 with the 1 at a neutral site.
 
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