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Disappointed

uconngb said:
..... I’m getting sick of watching Hurley do nothing during these winnable games. That second half offense was abysmal and he just sat there and watched it. Plus letting Gillespie abuse us all game with that stupid bull rush back down.
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The BE has many very good experienced coaches: Wright, McDermott, Anderson, Willard and Cooley.

At this point in his career Hurley is a good coach, but he cannot be classified with the aforementioned individuals.
 
Improviser said:
He got stripped a lot. Were the defenders superior or does he need to work on his ball handling skills?
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He needs to recognize the double so as to not dribble in to it and he needs to improve his left hand dribbling.

And needs to take some stunt guy classes to learn how to break his fall without locking his elbows and putting a the strain on his wrists.
 
Kolumbo said:
He realized he had to make plays and he started to force it into double and triple teams. He had no where to go.
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Chin Diesel said:
He needs to recognize the double so as to not dribble in to it and he needs to improve his left hand dribbling.

And needs to take some stunt guy classes to learn how to break his fall without locking his elbows and putting a the strain on his wrists.
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Wrist-Arm-elbow-shoulder, kind of connected so hard to break a fall because when one part hurts , the others do.

Maybe, wearing a protective device would help to cushion the blow or reduce the pain from landing. The trainers and physiotherapists would know this better than I.

An injured stunt guy would still feel pain and would not perform the stunt in the first place.

Not sure if pre-game steroid shots would help.

Totally agree on need to improve left hand dribbling and recognize the double.

Too bad Polley could not get free or take his man off the dribble.
 
Boneyard is at it again. Killing Bouk. Yes he is NBA ready. Ridiculous to say he needs another year. Had 21 points and 10 boards today. He was trying to force it and split double teams to make something happen. They bottled him up and he forced it. Happened to Jalen Adams all the time. He also missed some runners he normally makes cause he had no legs. He was tired.

If Bouk passes out the double team then they will say he disappeared. Yes some media members said Bouk disappeared the last 10 minutes of the first half when it was great defense by Nova.
 
Bobol said:
The BE has many very good experienced coaches: Wright, McDermott, Anderson, Willard and Cooley.

At this point in his career Hurley is a good coach, but he cannot be classified with the aforementioned individuals.
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When guys on the Boneyard recognize recurring mistakes he makes, it’s a problem.
 
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Most of Nova’s points are drives, backing their man down, layups and putbacks. Yes they made some 3’s at the end.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I really hate starting Sanogo and Whaley together.
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I do too, they are both good players but they just shouldn't be playing at the same time. They are both centers and Whaley is so much better when he gets to play center instead of pf. We have three elite athletic wing types in Bouk, Jackson, and Martin who need to all start.
 
superjohn said:
I do too, they are both good players but they just shouldn't be playing at the same time. They are both centers and Whaley is so much better when he gets to play center instead of pf. We have three elite athletic wing types in Bouk, Jackson, and Martin who need to all start.
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I agree as well. I think this experiment needs to be over. Whaley has become a MAJOR liability on the offensive end at the 4 spot. He's completely lost and now can't make anything over a layup. They are ineffective together. I think we can get away on defense and rebounding with Jackson and Martin in there w Sanogo.
 
Candyman34 said:
Boneyard is at it again. Killing Bouk. Yes he is NBA ready. Ridiculous to say he needs another year. Had 21 points and 10 boards today. He was trying to force it and split double teams to make something happen. They bottled him up and he forced it. Happened to Jalen Adams all the time. He also missed some runners he normally makes cause he had no legs. He was tired.

If Bouk passes out the double team then they will say he disappeared. Yes some media members said Bouk disappeared the last 10 minutes of the first half when it was great defense by Nova.
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Bouknight is a terrific player- it's amazing he can put up 20 points with no supporting cast. UConn lacks consistent scorers. Today's box score only had one other player in double figures- Cole with 10. Villanova had 4 players in double figures
Hurley will need to develop the team with next year's strong class and Bouknight off to NBA
 
superjohn said:
I do too, they are both good players but they just shouldn't be playing at the same time. They are both centers and Whaley is so much better when he gets to play center instead of pf. We have three elite athletic wing types in Bouk, Jackson, and Martin who need to all start.
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100%, and this lineup would also force them to play faster, which is when they’re at their best.

I like the way Hurley is building this program, truly. But he makes some head scratching lineup and in-game coaching decisions.
 
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uconngb said:
Agree. I’m getting sick of watching Hurley do nothing during these winnable games. That second half offense was abysmal and he just sat there and watched it. Plus letting Gillespie abuse us all game with that stupid bull rush back down.
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He's the only guard in college I l have ever seen that consistently got away with dropping his shoulder and just charged all game because the ref would not call it. He didn't do that last game. I don't blame him if the refs weren't calling it. Smart player who is a good leader on the floor. I'll remember him as detestable but worthy opponent like Siva and Krauser.
 
superjohn said:
I do too, they are both good players but they just shouldn't be playing at the same time. They are both centers and Whaley is so much better when he gets to play center instead of pf. We have three elite athletic wing types in Bouk, Jackson, and Martin who need to all start.
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Whaley-Sanogo is Cole-Gaffney redux. Took a bit for Hurley to move away from that also...
 
8893 said:
This should tell you something about yourself.
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If you are going to start calling out all the irrational hatred on the BY, you are going to be a very busy man.
 
Kolumbo said:
The second half was about as dreadful as it gets. Gassed, fouls, out of bounds calls, nova slowed the game to a crawl. UConn was still within striking distance down the stretch despite everything seemingly going the other way. They need more games to find their game, but this season is what it is.
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Again, credit to Jay Wright. All that was by design.
 
Good coaches find ways to help their team win when they are not at their best. Hurley has no idea how to do that. There was no attempt to adjust to Bouk being collapsed on by three guys. Polley was open consistently in the corner with a simple kick out but Hurley never green lighted that. Our big men where out of position most of the day when they were bigger, and there was no low post work from the corner in. Late in the game there was some feeble attempts to feed the high post from the top, which made no sense because of the collapsing zone. Nothing was done to stretch the floor from side to side to create interior space. It was a total crap show that reminded me of the KO offense. There was no attempt to push the ball and penetrate before the D set up and Nova had plenty of misses.

The thing that always worried me was the URI turd during the tournament a few years back, which exposed Hurley’s deer in the headlights coaching. I chalked it up to just a bad day, but this is a repeating theme here. He obviously knows the game inside and out, he just seems to have tunnel vision and no feel for what to do in real time.
 
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BlueDogs said:
Good coaches find ways to help their team win when they are not at their best. Hurley has no idea how to do that. There was no attempt to adjust to Bouk being collapsed on by three guys. Polley was open consistently in the corner with a simple kick out but Hurley never green lighted that. Our big men where out of position most of the day when they were bigger, and there was no low post work from the corner in. Late in the game there was some feeble attempts to feed the high post from the top, which made no sense because of the collapsing zone. Nothing was done to stretch the floor from side to side to create interior space. It was a total crap show that reminded me of the KO offense. There was no attempt to push the ball and penetrate before the D set up and Nova had plenty of misses.

The thing that always worried me was the URI turd during the tournament a few years back, which exposed Hurley’s deer in the headlights coaching. I chalked it up to just a bad day, but this is a repeating theme here. He obviously knows the game inside and out, he just seems to have tunnel vision and no feel for what to do in real time.
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Do you think you're a better coach than Hurley?
 
There are times where we have 3 guys on the floor that don’t/can’t score at all. Besides Bouk and Martin, I’m not confident where consistent scoring is going to come from. Whaley has been all over the place. Jackson, though athletic looks at this point to be limited to paint scoring. Polley is Polley. Cole is streaky, I mean we are really limited in our offensive sets. I also hate that we match up to the others team strengths. Understanding Nova lives from the 3, we should of had a huge advantage in the paint.
 
Hungryhusky99 said:
Hurley continues to make zero effective in game adjustments after other coaches counter his initial plan .
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Yes, it seems like a problem but Hurley did pull Cole for a bit when he was left on a switch to guard Gillespie, backed down and bullied for two points or a trip to the foul line. Unfortunately, the bigs didn't help much for a double team. We do double on the outside but don't seem to inside. Why? Nova must have scored 10-15 points on this inside move. This was a bread and butter play and we didn't adjust well. Why not consider a 3/2 zone with Carlton inside. At least Nova would have had to beat two players. There have other games in which this change might have helped but we never try it.
Another opportunity for change is to overcome the player mindset of deferring to one or two players to shoot. We don't have offensive balance or a willingness to do that. They doubled Bouk, stripped him a couple of times as we didn't look to pass.
 
Some of the takes on here baffle me. Sanogo and Whaley play a total of 41 minutes in a game where Hurley lets Wright completely dictate the tempo and Villanova’s 6’3 guard is posting UConn up at will, and people are blaming Whaley?

30 seconds in the halfcourt offense for Villanova is like 60 seconds for most teams. They are going to get good looks. 30 seconds for UConn against a good halfcourt defense like Villanova feels like 20 seconds, especially with all the time UConn wastes on offense.

The only advantage UConn had against Villanova was UConn‘s front court, and Hurley left it on the bench and tried to out 3 and D Villanova. It is a credit to how hard and well the team played that it did not lose by 20 with such a stupid game plan.
 
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Wright made adjustments when he needed to. Bouk was very predictable in the second half and wasn't flexible enough to find his open teammates due to Nova's "crowding" of him and with double teams.

Needs to trust his teammates more and they need to demand the ball. He had hit a wall in the second half re: conditioning and you have to find ways to get your teammates involved when that happens.

If the player can't make those in-game adjustments then your coach needs to be able to do it with different offensive schemes .Close game into the second half and I'm thinking. Ok who is going to step up since Bouk is drawing two guys everywhere he's going.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Some of the takes on here baffle me. Sanogo and Whaley play a total of 41 minutes in a game where Hurley lets Wright completely dictate the tempo and Villanova’s 6’3 guard is posting UConn up at will, and people are blaming Whaley?

30 seconds in the halfcourt offense for Villanova is like 60 seconds for most teams. They are going to get good looks. 30 seconds for UConn against a good halfcourt defense like Villanova feels like 20 seconds, especially with all the time UConn wastes on offense.

The only advantage UConn had against Villanova was UConn‘s front court, and Hurley left it on the bench and tried to out 3 and D Villanova. It is a credit to how hard and well the team played that it did not lose by 20 with such a stupid game plan.
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Not even a little bit surprised that you think the solution to a game where our 1 big on the floor was getting killed on defense is to play 2 of them
 
uconngb said:
What?? Guy is pure class and prolly the best coach in college hoops. And appears to do it the right way.

meant for scooter.....and then I realized
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He coaches at Villanova and he is a fussbudget. Everything I said about him was complementary. I’d take him in a minute. Lots of coaches I dislike who are really good. Coach K is a great coach, does nothing but win. Same with Roy. Don’t care for either one. But I can separate my dislike for the guy from my respect for their ability.
 
uconngb said:
THIS. It has to change. We are consistently losing winnable games. I get if it’s bad execution. But he’s not giving us anything to execute. That’s 3 times he has been dramatically outcoached (granted, Jay may be the best in the biz, but Willard and Anderson ain’t).
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It's kind of funny how these coaches are near the top of their profession, making millions of dollars a year and some schmuck on a message board, that probably couldn't ever get to the point in life that they are at, bitches constantly about what he/she perceives as their short comings. If you have a clue or the ability to do what they do, go out and do it. But you and countless others on here that do the complaining, keep it to yourself.
 
Umami Zen said:
Wright made adjustments when he needed to. Bouk was very predictable in the second half and wasn't flexible enough to find his open teammates due to Nova's "crowding" of him and with double teams.

Needs to trust his teammates more and they need to demand the ball. He had hit a wall in the second half re: conditioning and you have to find ways to get your teammates involved when that happens.

If the player can't make those in-game adjustments then your coach needs to be able to do it with different offensive schemes .Close game into the second half and I'm thinking. Ok who is going to step up since Bouk is drawing two guys everywhere he's going.
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Basically Bouk said this in time post game video. He said he was trying to do too much and should have looked for the open man more.
 
BlueDogs said:
Hurley lives and breathes basketball and has forgotten more than I will ever know. That said, it’s fairly clear he was out coached again and the gave was dictated to us.
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Hurley has a full staff of asst coaches so that’s not the problem. It was players not being able to execute, hit shots.
 
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