Did you see Walz make the "palming sign" ?

[boontonbomber]

There are a lot of rules that are made up that don't really have any positive impact in the game, and palming is one of them, just as the for people who don't like the dunk, the rule that banned the dunk was cheered on by some fans back in the late 1960s.

There are other aspects of the game that I'm more concerned about, as when a player in today's game went up for a layup and a defender got some of the ball and then slammed her to the court. And of course it's totally legal, although what Slaughter was doing in behind the play with a right arm that seemed to be helping the throw-down is a different matter.

Some may want to make a big deal about palming, but I think attention might be better spent looking at the problems that really matter, and I have never seen a player injured by palming or a game adversely affected by it. But we can all pick our different issues to fight about. Palming would likely be #99 on my list of 100 battles to crusade against. Plus putting in that big effort in a likely futile attempt to undo 15 years worth of training for a hard-to-call movement that would gum up the game and make most fans irritated? Whatever.

agree. palming is impossible to call with any kind of consistency. and,also, i'm for anything that helps the offensive player .

 

[jennyo70]

As a Louisville fan I want any advantage I can get against Uconn, in the realm of rule calling. It is hard to watch it, know it is a rule violation, and it not be called. If you are not going to call it, eliminate from the rules. On our end, Bria Smith is guilty of it too.

Re: Walz and the T. I love the guy. He is a heck of an x's and o's coach, a real delight for the fans, and a great sense of humor. He will always go to bat for his players, and he does not cut them any slack when they screw up on the court. However, I would absolutely hate to ref one of his games. He is relentless on the refs. Truthfully, I am not surprised he does not get T'd up more often. He appears more twitchy this year, and I believe it is the inconsistiencies in game calling, from game to game. It is hard for teams to know what they can and can't do, when there is little consistency. Of course, it is his job to have his team adjust to how the game is being called.

Finally, I am sure Walz meant nothing other than to help Mo Jeff up off of the floor in front of our bench. However, I said noticed the exact same thing, that it looked like he was going to pull her arm out of socket. My partner said "she's not a rag doll, Jeff, come on". It certainly looked awkward.
She looks so tiny, I have visions of me trying to help her up, and in giving her a hand/pulling her up, she flies over my head 10 ft. away.

 

[Woof 101]

Not calling anyone out here, a lot of good comments. I will agree with those that think it is palming or a carry as I was taught ( I am old ) anything below 3 o'clock / 9 o'clock on the ball you got called. I like the comment on seeing how it is called ( like baseball ) unless it changes as the season goes into the tourney when someone has developed a season long habit.

I have a link here of what I think is a good demonstration of proper dribbling. Not sure how many here have had the pleasure of meeting our
DY-NA-MO-JEFF, and shake her hand but I have and I wonder if she could palm a softball. Many with small hands at any level use their wrist and lower arm to move the ball when crossing or changing directions.

 

[DaddyChoc]

As a kid playing ball we were taught how to add English on the ball and let our hands rise with the ball on top as it spun against the hand.

players are better these days, that ball would get stolen everytime

 

[DaddyChoc]

carrying in the 80's was a very high dribble, normally above the shoulder (palming wasnt involved).

I guess this could be called "double dribble" due to the ball resting in your palm... then dribbled again.

not sure about calling it "travel"... since you have to take about 3 steps with it in your hand.

I hate to say it but it gives teams like UConn who runs a motion offense the advantage due to the defender jumping in the passing lane and MoJett/BHart is "about to pass and just puts the ball back down on the floor"

it also makes you quicker as a dribbler/ball handler... cause you can "push the ball" and run to get back under it.

 

[UConnCat]

I can only think of that old saying "beating a dead horse" when I read this thread......

Just this thread?

 

[Dove]

When he lands a rocket pg who needs the ball to keep up with her speed he will learn that there is a technique to it. Otherwise, rocket pgs become obsolete.

 

[UcMiami]

As a Louisville fan I want any advantage I can get against Uconn, in the realm of rule calling. It is hard to watch it, know it is a rule violation, and it not be called. If you are not going to call it, eliminate from the rules. On our end, Bria Smith is guilty of it too.

Re: Walz and the T. I love the guy. He is a heck of an x's and o's coach, a real delight for the fans, and a great sense of humor. He will always go to bat for his players, and he does not cut them any slack when they screw up on the court. However, I would absolutely hate to ref one of his games. He is relentless on the refs. Truthfully, I am not surprised he does not get T'd up more often. He appears more twitchy this year, and I believe it is the inconsistiencies in game calling, from game to game. It is hard for teams to know what they can and can't do, when there is little consistency. Of course, it is his job to have his team adjust to how the game is being called.

Finally, I am sure Walz meant nothing other than to help Mo Jeff up off of the floor in front of our bench. However, I said noticed the exact same thing, that it looked like he was going to pull her arm out of socket. My partner said "she's not a rag doll, Jeff, come on". It certainly looked awkward.
She looks so tiny, I have visions of me trying to help her up, and in giving her a hand/pulling her up, she flies over my head 10 ft. away.

I really like Jeff too and it has to be frustrating for any coach to deal with officiating inconsistencies game to game, but that is always the case every year. The ones that really drive coaches crazy are the complete inconsistencies within a game and that is a bit rarer and much more likely to lead to serious foul trouble and coaching meltdowns. Sometimes you get refs that are not on the same page so the one down low calls different things than the ones up top, and then since I believe they play the same way in both halves the calls reverse for the teams in the second half. I actually enjoy Jeff's sideline demeanor - he is pretty clear about how he feels but seldom takes it to the Kim level of demonstrativeness! And I think most coaches ride the refs from start to finish so I don't see anything more than that.
Liked the interaction with Jefferson - can always be awkward getting a player up - but there was some general good will between the two. Just get the sense Jeff is a generally good guy who likes good ball players whatever jersey they wear.