Did they cancel our next game also???

[HuskyHawk]

That's already the NCAA policy from before the season started

You are right. Seems UConn regular student testing is only "surveillance" which is less strict than many. Lots of schools testing every kid every week.

 

[Kemba15]

I read it, that's what spurred my post that the only way to manipulate it would be providing fake test results to the Big East

Well if you look at what he said about Sanogo, this isn’t accurate

 

[8893]

Well if you look at what he said about Sanogo, this isn’t accurate

Bingo

 

[Get a Job]

I read it, that's what spurred my post that the only way to manipulate it would be providing fake test results to the Big East

Are we to assume (or maybe you know definitively?) that a positive test is the only way for a non-injured scholarship player to not count toward the 7 playable players? Is all the "close contact" stuff out the window?

 

[navery12]

Well if you look at what he said about Sanogo, this isn’t accurate

Fair, I guess you could fake injuries too. My point is that you're going to need to provide something to the Big East to prove it, I can't imagine they're just taking teams at their word. In either direction, for the 7 players cleared to play or the 5+ who aren't cleared

 

[8893]

Fair, I guess you could fake injuries too. My point is that you're going to need to provide something to the Big East to prove it, I can't imagine they're just taking teams at their word. In either direction, for the 7 players cleared to play or the 5+ who aren't cleared

Per the article, schools aren’t allowed to reveal who or how many players and/or coaches have tested positive.

 

[OUTATIME]

We aren't playing Saturday then.

 

[navery12]

Per the article, schools aren’t allowed to reveal who or how many players and/or coaches have tested positive.

That's to the public no? Or is the conference also not allowed to know? If that's the case then yeah I agree this policy is wide open to manipulation

 

[Rico444]

Fair, I guess you could fake injuries too. My point is that you're going to need to provide something to the Big East to prove it, I can't imagine they're just taking teams at their word. In either direction, for the 7 players cleared to play or the 5+ who aren't cleared

We're probably arguing semantics, but I don't think saying Sanogo isn't ready to be one of 7 players and be forced to play significant minutes is the same as faking an injury. A couple of guys foul out and now a guy you're still trying to ramp up coming off of an abdominal injury is forced onto the court with no breaks.

 

[8893]

That's to the public no? Or is the conference also not allowed to know? If that's the case then yeah I agree this policy is wide open to manipulation

I'm not sure, but I read it to include the conference, meaning it's essentially an honor system.

 

[navery12]

We're probably arguing semantics, but I don't think saying Sanogo isn't ready to be one of 7 players and be forced to play significant minutes is the same as faking an injury. A couple of guys foul out and now a guy you're still trying to ramp up coming off of an abdominal injury is forced onto the court with no breaks.

Definitely not what I was implying, that's a legitimate injury which is why he wasn't included in our 7 healthy players to begin with. Was talking about the implication being made of using future injuries to get below 7 and not just test results

 

[navery12]

I'm not sure, but I read it to include the conference, meaning it's essentially an honor system.

I'm probably just being naive but I can't imagine anyone in the Big East is stupid enough to implement that policy and not see all the lies they'll be fed from teams in both directions

 

[FriarJ]

I'm probably just being naive but I can't imagine anyone in the Big East is stupid enough to implement that policy and not see all the lies they'll be fed from teams in both directions

I can’t think of a single coach in the league that wouldn’t. They are paid big money to win.

 

[businesslawyer]

Fair, I guess you could fake injuries too. My point is that you're going to need to provide something to the Big East to prove it, I can't imagine they're just taking teams at their word. In either direction, for the 7 players cleared to play or the 5+ who aren't cleared

Did you read what was posted? It literally said that the conference takes the schools at their word.

 

[8893]

I'm probably just being naive but I can't imagine anyone in the Big East is stupid enough to implement that policy and not see all the lies they'll be fed from teams in both directions

And I'm probably trying to divine too much from the article, but I read this to mean that that's the policy:

But perhaps the biggest change in the league’s policy from a year ago remained intact. Unlike last season, when the Big East deemed whether games would be canceled, that decision now rests with the member schools. If a school tells the league it can’t field a roster to play a game under the new policy, the game won’t be played.

 

[businesslawyer]

I'm probably just being naive but I can't imagine anyone in the Big East is stupid enough to implement that policy and not see all the lies they'll be fed from teams in both directions

They very well may recognize that risk, but what do you want them to do? Schools under federal law can't share students health records with anyone else, so they can't ask for the tests and count themselves.

 

[gampelcrazies]

If they aren’t going to play this weekend can we just cancel the game now and not let us keep holding out hope they are going to play.

 

[navery12]

They very well may recognize that risk, but what do you want them to do? Schools under federal law can't share students health records with anyone else, so they can't ask for the tests and count themselves.

That was my question that I asked for an answer to a few posts ago, so thank you. I assumed test results would have to be shared with the Big East

 

[Get a Job]

Did you read what was posted? It literally said that the conference takes the schools at their word.

I don't think it says that. The words used in the article are, "If a school tells the league it can’t field a roster to play a game under the new policy, the game won’t be played." This could mean that the league simply takes the schools at their word, but it does not necessarily preclude alternatives. Perhaps "telling" in this instance refers to providing some kind of documentation, for example.

 

[Get a Job]

If the league truly takes the schools at their word, this is a fascinating scenario. Let's assume that the decision-makers (DMs) at the schools will act in their team's best interest, and ignore the letter of the Big East's rules. (I think this is a realistic assumption.)

So, before every game, the DMs must ask themselves, "Are we better off playing this game as scheduled, or opting out and possibly playing it at a later date." This is usually a very hard question to answer, I'd imagine. There are so many variables. How likely are we to win as scheduled? How likely is it that we will be better equipped to win in the future? How much would a win help us relative to the damage a loss would do? How important would this game be to the overall resume, win or lose?

 

[willie99]

Based on what we're seeing with Bowl games, they can cancel it after warm-ups

 

[Kemba15]

They very well may recognize that risk, but what do you want them to do? Schools under federal law can't share students health records with anyone else, so they can't ask for the tests and count themselves.

This is true but you’d think the school could send the number of positive tests to the conference without including the names. But per the article, maybe not—just seems like the conference would want to validate.

 

[alphasigko]

So, please enlighten me....If all of the players are students, then they are required to be vaxed in order to go to any University. If they are all vaxed, then what is the issue?

 

[8893]

So, please enlighten me....If all of the players are students, then they are required to be vaxed in order to go to any University. If they are all vaxed, then what is the issue?

The Big East policy.

You might have noticed that other college and professional sports have similar policies and have been similarly affected in the past two weeks.

Whether that should be the policy or not is a different issue. But it's not one we are going to change; and not one that is going to be allowed to be debated on this board.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Did they cancel our next game also???
According to wfsb, two men's games have been cancelled this week...

Anyone with actual reliable insight know the answer to
"Who is they?".
Potentially, Dan Hurley, DB, athletic department doctor(s), other doctors, UConn Interim President, ABT, other T.B.D.?

 

[CbbisGreat]

I would bet that UConn could have had 1 coach and 7 scholarship players for Xavier not testing positive but chose to contrive ways to not play at Xavier shorthanded, based on contact with the positive players or others infected, and an 'abundance of caution', (ie code for we don't want to play a top 25 team shorthanded). We probably will never know if I would win my bet.

Hurley is also on record last year that he won't put a team on the floor that hasn't practiced, for the 'safety of the players'. (ie code for making sure they are prepared to win). It will likely be that UConn will not have the practice time before Butler, I suspect Hurley will press not to play, Irregardless of the 1 coach 7 player availability advertised BE standard.

I personally think if you meet the stated standard and don't play, you should forfeit, else scrap the standard. If a team does play according to that standard they are disadvantaged if others are avoiding games they could play.

 

[CbbisGreat]

Irregardless

 

[Get a Job]

Yes.

 

[Chasm64]

Conspiracy and pretzel logic takes over the boneyard

 

[John]

Conspiracy and pretzel logic takes over the boneyard