Diamond Stone (Committed to Maryland)

[Adios]

Did he post nasty, spiteful stuff about her online? I'm not clear what the connection is here.

He chases self-proclaimed "hoes". What do you expect? Classy responses from the women?

 

[Adios]

I hear you but we men have two brains, so knowingly can be questionable at times. That other brain sometimes doesn't think before it acts and can overpower our 'main' brain.

lol...but if the "other brain" overpowers the "main brain", that's still because the "main brain" is extremely stimulated, too...and willing.

 

[CallMeBruce]

He chases self-proclaimed "hoes". What do you expect? Classy responses from the women?

So you're saying he deserved to be treated cruelly, and is, in fact, just as bad as her, because he slept with her?

 

[Adios]

So you're saying he deserved to be treated cruelly, and is, in fact, just as bad as her, because he slept with her?

No, I am saying it comes with the territory. They both play in similar territory.

 

[businesslawyer]

Did he post nasty, spiteful stuff about her online? I'm not clear what the connection is here.

Thank you. Stone choose to have unprotected sex with a female he didn't know well. Yes, if there is a child born from the tryst he will have to bear the responsibility of his decision, but that is hardly a moral failing. The woman, as I said, is a lowlife.

None of that has anything to do with what the rights of the child are or should be if one arises from their daliance.

 

[Adios]

Thank you. Stone choose to have unprotected sex with a female he didn't know well. Yes, if there is a child born from the tryst he will have to bear the responsibility of his decision, but that is hardly a moral failing. The woman, as I said, is a lowlife.

None of that has anything to do with what the rights of the child are or should be if one arises from their daliance.

How could this not be carelessness on his part? All he cared was ejaculating inside the vagina of a woman who seems attractive. And if a kid is born, the kid is going to possibly suffer having an absentee father and a crazy mother.

 

[Kitaman]

lol...but if the "other brain" overpowers the "main brain", that's still because the "main brain" is extremely stimulated, too...and willing.

I think we all can speak as experts about that fact.

Flowchart: Sight to mind to body to mind. Its the final step that usually gets lost/removed.

Funny but that final step 'only' requires time, but who the hell looks at their watch in these situations. Women (via evolution?) have mastered how to remove that final step through distraction and like you say extreme simulation.

As for sight well that is continually being negotiated throughout the process, in many cases becoming more and more poorer especially during long periods of drought. Man, do I know this. LOL

 

[nomar]

If you can prove that a woman was looking to be impregnated by you in order to get your money for nothing, it should free you.

Or, you know, wear a f------ rubber.

 

[Leebo]

Flowchart: Sight to mind to body to mind.

All four steps of your flow chart involve the "main" brain. It's all the brain, man.

 

[CallMeBruce]

No, I am saying it comes with the territory. They both play in similar territory.

This is absolute nonsense, but you're obviously beyond saving, so carry on.

 

[Kitaman]

How could this not be carelessness on his part? All he cared was ejaculating inside the vagina of a woman who seems attractive.

Not to keep responding to you, but his mind 'could have been blown' and at that age could have temporarily fell in love. Unlikely but not necessarily impossible. Just saying when it comes to men/women its not always cut and dry.

 

[Kitaman]

All four steps of your flow chart involve the "main" brain. It's all the brain, man.

Yeah but Leebo which brain? We got two of them bro.

 

[tcf15]

Mods discussing this thread right now

 

[businesslawyer]

How could this not be carelessness on his part? All he cared was ejaculating inside the vagina of a woman who seems attractive. And if a kid is born, the kid is going to possibly suffer having an absentee father and a crazy mother.

Morality is subjective, at least at the margins. If you want to take the position that having concensual unprotected sex with a partner you barely know makes you immoral, you are entitled to hold that belief. I'm not willing to draw that conclusion, and I doubt most people are either. You have no reason to doubt at this point that he's not willing to bear the consequences of the risk he took. If he isn't, then the matter is different.

 

[UconnFanNVa]

Im going to use a Jay-z quote:

Many chicks wanna put Jigga fist in cuffs
Divorce him and split his bucks
Just because you got good head, I'ma break bread
so you can be livin it up?

Anyone with a little something to protect should be smart enough to think with the correct head when money is involved. And if you get played, you take the L like a man because you were stupid.

 

[Adios]

Not to keep responding to you, but his mind 'could have been blown' and at that age could have temporarily fell in love. Unlikely but not necessarily impossible. Just saying when it comes to men/women its not always cut and dry.

True. We definitely are raging hormones when we are younger. That sure can be a problem.

 

[CGarr]

Wait, can hair get pregnant?
Pretty sure the pregnancy line was her attempt at humor.

 

[Adios]

Morality is subjective, at least at the margins. If you want to take the position that having concensual unprotected sex with a partner you barely know makes you immoral, you are entitled to hold that belief. I'm not willing to draw that conclusion, and I doubt most people are either. You have no reason to doubt at this point that he's not willing to bear the consequences of the risk he took. If he isn't, then the matter is different.

There's people who marry and have kids quick and barely know each other. Not my point. Just spraying his sperm has consequences, obviously. I have no reason to doubt at this point that he's willing to bear, true. He's free to do whatever he wants within the law, after all.

 

[BUConn10]

There's people who marry and have kids quick and barely know each other. Not my point. Just spraying his sperm has consequences, obviously. I have no reason to doubt at this point that he's willing to bear, true. He's free to do whatever he wants within the law, after all.

@Butch is the "that's absolutely reprehensible" guy in the media Burr was impersonating. It's easy to say he's a jerk/idiot when you've never been even close to in his shoes in this context.

 

[Leebo]

Yeah but Leebo which brain? We got two of them bro.

Okay, you're just going to keep repeating that.

 

[businesslawyer]

There's people who marry and have kids quick and barely know each other. Not my point. Just spraying his sperm has consequences, obviously. I have no reason to doubt at this point that he's willing to bear, true. He's free to do whatever he wants within the law, after all.

So why would you compare his action to hers, where all he did was have unprotected sex with a willing parnter while she not only did that but also decided to attack him on social media for no reason and put the possibility of having a child just to collect child support on the table?

 

[tzznandrew]

Okay, you're just going to keep repeating that.

Yeah, that just seems like an easy way to excuse poor decisions and bad behavior.

 

[Kitaman]

True. We definitely are raging hormones when we are younger. That sure can be a problem.

As a married man the movie Fatal Attraction was an annual watch for me and kept me straight.

To lighten the mood here as far as raging hormones this scene is spot on:

 

[Kembacity]

Wait -- so your position is that a child is not entitled to financial support from a father because his mother is a lowlife? Sure you don't want to rethink that one?

Oh thank you white knight for saving the day as you and your like do every day!

I'm not an MRA, if you want to deal in that sort of lazy conversation/argument, go have fun at Jezebel.com

I am fully capable of keeping my swimmers out of uteruses I don't want them in, but this sub-culture of literally trapping men for child support purposes is completely disgusting. Do I think that many or most women are out there looking to do this? NO!!!! Do I think its literally despicable that it happens as often as it does (which isn't that often)? YES

Look at it this way, do you want to be the kid that one day finds out he was born basically because his mom could attract a professional athlete and didn't want to have to "work" in the traditional sense of the word? The kids born are the biggest losers in the equation, but I think all involved are losers

To be clear, I find it disgusting both that this happens (women aiming to have children with rich guys they are just hooking up with), and that many many young men think having a number of children with different women is both not a big deal and even something to brag about. It's a side of culture that needs to go

 

[Palatine]

Im going to use a Jay-z quote:

Many chicks wanna put Jigga fist in cuffs
Divorce him and split his bucks
Just because you got good head, I'ma break bread
so you can be livin it up?

Anyone with a little something to protect should be smart enough to think with the correct head when money is involved. And if you get played, you take the L like a man because you were stupid.

This makes me happy I don't listen to J-Z

 

[Adios]

@Butch is the "that's absolutely reprehensible" guy in the media Burr was impersonating. It's easy to say he's a jerk/idiot when you've never been even close to in his shoes in this context.

I have no kids.

 

[intlzncster]

Dude it ain't that simple. Women are experts at seduction and entrapment. This stuff could even happen to the President of the United States, oh wait . . . . . . . . . .

For these high level and pro athletes, they need to know that trouble like this can be averted by taking these matters into your own hands.

Look, it takes two to tango. For all you young fellas out there, if you don't want a problem, use a condom and flush it down the toilet. Problem solved.

Diamond Stone thread turns into Sex Ed 101 discussion -> Boneyard.

 

[Adios]

So why would you compare his action to hers, where all he did was have unprotected sex with a willing parnter while she not only did that but also decided to attack him on social media for no reason and put the possibility of having a child just to collect child support on the table?

The social media attack was stupid. Not saying it's ok. Never said it was. But he must have known something about her if she was this public about herself and they go to the same school.

 

[CGarr]

Oh thank you white knight for saving the day as you and your like do every day!

I'm not an MRA, if you want to deal in that sort of lazy conversation/argument, go have fun at Jezebel.com

I am fully capable of keeping my swimmers out of uteruses I don't want them in, but this sub-culture of literally trapping men for child support purposes is completely disgusting. Do I think that many or most women are out there looking to do this? NO!!!! Do I think its literally despicable that it happens as often as it does (which isn't that often)? YES

Look at it this way, do you want to be the kid that one day finds out he was born basically because his mom could attract a professional athlete and didn't want to have to "work" in the traditional sense of the word? The kids born are the biggest losers in the equation, but I think all involved are losers

To be clear, I find it disgusting both that this happens (women aiming to have children with rich guys they are just hooking up with), and that many many young men think having a number of children with different women is both not a big deal and even something to brag about. It's a side of culture that needs to go

I agree with you but how does this apply here? How was this a trap? Was she poking holes in his condoms?

 

[businesslawyer]

Oh thank you white knight for saving the day as you and your like do every day!

I'm not an MRA, if you want to deal in that sort of lazy conversation/argument, go have fun at Jezebel.com

I am fully capable of keeping my swimmers out of uteruses I don't want them in, but this sub-culture of literally trapping men for child support purposes is completely disgusting. Do I think that many or most women are out there looking to do this? NO!!!! Do I think its literally despicable that it happens as often as it does (which isn't that often)? YES

Look at it this way, do you want to be the kid that one day finds out he was born basically because his mom could attract a professional athlete and didn't want to have to "work" in the traditional sense of the word? The kids born are the biggest losers in the equation, but I think all involved are losers

To be clear, I find it disgusting both that this happens (women aiming to have children with rich guys they are just hooking up with), and that many many young men think having a number of children with different women is both not a big deal and even something to brag about. It's a side of culture that needs to go

A lot of anger without actually addressing what I said. I said the woman is a lowlife. Neither I nor anyone else here defended her for an instant. What I said was (and I was more polite the first time) that it is stupid to define the rights of the child to financial support from his father/sperm donor based on how big a jerk his mother is. Which is what you wrote originally, but didn't defend when you felt attacked.