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8893 said:
Why? If we're dead with him, as you say, why? Just so we can have another bitch session about how we had him locked and lost him? I really don't get the fascination with simultaneously telling us that your sources say we have no chance, yet continuing to obsessively monitor his press and season.

Let. The. Thread. Die.
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First off there is no BY rule you have to click and read every thread. Simple concept. 2nd never say never with recruiting until they sign (that is the fun of it) . 3rd I try to add some ounce of content or info on crap threads like this.

Could we land stone sure could he sign with Wisconsin or Maryland sure... if the rollercoaster is to much then get off (that was a joke, sarcasm off)
 
Did I head write Stones farher and Bo are in a 40 year relationship? Is this all a sat,act grades issue and Wisconsin is the first choice?
 
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ARIDE said:
Did I head write Stones farher and Bo are in a 40 year relationship? Is this all a sat,act grades issue and Wisconsin is the first choice?
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Yes yes not sure
 
fleudslipcon said:
Someone posted one of his games. Watched it. Felt Enoch is similar to Kelis Fisher currently. More developed on the offensive end then the defensive end. Had a tendency in this game to not motor and rode the pine because of it. Went back in and was high octane. Kid is developing. Same as Kentan. Both have the tools but both lack experience because they only recently started playing bb. People expecting him to come in and transform the position probably have it wrong.

However he can play the five which I don't feel Kelis Fisher could do as well. And that allows KO to employ a lineup of PN and AB more frequently given the additional five fouls Enoch could provide.
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Well he does have a better frame than Kelis Fisher also so definitely won't get pushed around as much either. Kelis Fisher definitely gets pushed around by bigger players. He is rated higher than Kelis Fisher was in the top 100. If he can give us anything next year that will be a plus.
 
mauconnfan said:
We will need something from Nolan, Lubin or Enoch next year no doubt. Not sure how much improvement we can expect from Kentan although one can hope it's dramatic.
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I really had high hopes for Kelis Fisher this year. Parts of him seem to have regressed. OK rebounder, and an occasional dunk, but I was hoping for more blocks. He was actually moving away from a a guy driving uncontested for a layup. WTF? These guys need a lot of seasoning. High school is almost too late to start playing. Court awareness is poor.
 
uconnfan68 said:
I really had high hopes for Kelis Fisher this year. Parts of him seem to have regressed. OK rebounder, and an occasional dunk, but I was hoping for more blocks. He was actually moving away from a a guy driving uncontested for a layup. WTF? These guys need a lot of seasoning. High school is almost too late to start playing. Court awareness is poor.
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he barely gets any time and doesnt get the ball enough to talk about his offensive game... in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that
 
tennmike said:
Granted, Stone is likely to land elsewhere, but with the way Hamilton and Adams can pass, he would feast.
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im looking forward to that next year... the players just need to finish when they get the ball...i feel/hope that this team is going to play fast like ollie envisioned when he got here
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
he barely gets any time and doesnt get the ball enough to talk about his offensive game... in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that
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?????

Facey has played in every game this year and is averaging 23 mpg.
 
alexd. said:
?????

Facey has played in every game this year and is averaging 23 mpg.
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doesnt seem it, especially when hamilton is playing at the four... i would like to see them design more plays for him on the block than brimah at this point
 
3rdbass said:
Well he does have a better frame than Kelis Fisher also so definitely won't get pushed around as much either. Kelis Fisher definitely gets pushed around by bigger players. He is rated higher than Kelis Fisher was in the top 100. If he can give us anything next year that will be a plus.
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Ratings have pitfalls so even though I don't dismiss them I don't categorically accept them. Enoch plays the five now for his team and the coaches are grooming him as a back to the basket player. But his instincts are as a stretch four. KO will be able to play him as both a 4 and 5. Enoch's contributions next season will depend on how quickly he can integrate the flow of the game vs. having to consciously process what he learns in practice.

For all the things AB has to still learn he has been quick to absorb some things. Hopefully he can integrate others and be a well rounded player. Kelis Fisher has taken a step back because, at least so far, he hasn't integrated any of the coaching recommendations into the flow of the game. The game is still too fast for him.
 
alexd. said:
?????

Facey has played in every game this year and is averaging 23 mpg.
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But recently his playing time has been reduced. KO is starting PN against teams with bigger front lines and DHam against smaller teams.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
doesnt seem it, especially when hamilton is playing at the four... i would like to see them design more plays for him on the block than brimah at this point
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Why don't you ask the NCAA to keep different statistics. Maybe you would argue better if, instead of minutes per game, they kept track of how many minutes per game it feels like they are playing.
 
businesslawyer said:
Why don't you ask the NCAA to keep different statistics. Maybe you would argue better if, instead of minutes per game, they kept track of how many minutes per game it feels like they are playing.
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Last seven games:

ECU 18 minutes
Tulane 13 minutes
Tulsa 10 minutes
SMU 22 minutes
Memphis 18 minutes
Tulane 12 minutes
East Carolina 13 minutes

Definitely he has played less than his seasons average recently. Only came close in the SMU game in which there was a blowout and KO was desperately trying anything. Swag is correct about his impression.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
Last seven games:

ECU 18 minutes
Tulane 13 minutes
Tulsa 10 minutes
SMU 22 minutes
Memphis 18 minutes
Tulane 12 minutes
East Carolina 13 minutes

Definitely he has played less than his seasons average recently. Only came close in the SMU game in which there was a blowout and KO was desperately trying anything. Swag is correct about his impression.
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No, he is getting less minuts. Because he averaged more than 23 for most of the season and, in KO's opinion (which is certainly reasonable whether you agree with it or not) did nothing to deserve it.

By the way, if you need me to explain what an "average" is let me know.
 
It was definitely silly to suggest that "in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that".

Maybe if you watch games out of the corner of your eye with the volume off, you could be forgiven for being that far off.
 
businesslawyer said:
No, he is getting less minuts. Because he averaged more than 23 for most of the season and, in KO's opinion (which is certainly reasonable whether you agree with it or not) did nothing to deserve it.

By the way, if you need me to explain what an "average" is let me know.
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Swag made this over the top argument:
he barely gets any time and doesnt get the ball enough to talk about his offensive game... in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that

alexd made this argument:
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Facey has played in every game this year and is averaging 23 mpg.

Swag countered:
doesnt seem it, especially when hamilton is playing at the four... i would like to see them design more plays for him on the block than brimah at this point

You wrote:
Why don't you ask the NCAA to keep different statistics. Maybe you would argue better if, instead of minutes per game, they kept track of how many minutes per game it feels like they are playing.

I wrote my point not seeing the first over the top post. Thought Swag was arguing minutes were reduced from his average. Take me to task about missing the start of the argument. But I can't see how my example does anything but demonstrate my understanding of "average".
 
UConnSwag11 said:
he barely gets any time and doesnt get the ball enough to talk about his offensive game... in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that
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UConnSwag11 said:
doesnt seem it, especially when hamilton is playing at the four... i would like to see them design more plays for him on the block than brimah at this point
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Brimah is averaging about 17 ppg over his last three but you want more plays for Facey who really hasn't shown much ability to score except on put backs. Do you even watch the games? I really thought Kentan was a bright spot early in the year but he hasn't done much lately to even play over Phil. And it's not because of playing time. It's the reason his time on the court has diminished.
 
businesslawyer said:
Why don't you ask the NCAA to keep different statistics. Maybe you would argue better if, instead of minutes per game, they kept track of how many minutes per game it feels like they are playing.
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This would be tricky. There are times Phil Nolan plays 2 minutes and it feels like 20. Then there are times he plays 20 and it feels like 2.
 
businesslawyer said:
Why don't you ask the NCAA to keep different statistics. Maybe you would argue better if, instead of minutes per game, they kept track of how many minutes per game it feels like they are playing.
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He's averaging that many minutes bc he was playing a lot at the beginning of the season until hamilton has turned into the player he is
 
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imno1 said:
Brimah is averaging about 17 ppg over his last three but you want more plays for Facey who really hasn't shown much ability to score except on put backs. Do you even watch the games? I really thought Kentan was a bright spot early in the year but he hasn't done much lately to even play over Phil. And it's not because of playing time. It's the reason his time on the court has diminished.
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How many of how points come from post moves or any moves at all? All his points come from lobs from hamilton or the ft line. He rebounds much better than nolan. Has shown a running hook shot and a nice jumper
 
Leebo said:
It was definitely silly to suggest that "in two years he's probably played a total of 10-15 total games, if that".

Maybe if you watch games out of the corner of your eye with the volume off, you could be forgiven for being that far off.
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How many games did he play last year? I'm not talking about games he stepped on the floor. Add up the minutes
 
Either way we need stone or one of the other two bigs that are considering uconn to get size and weight upfront
 
UConnSwag11 said:
How many games did he play last year? I'm not talking about games he stepped on the floor. Add up the minutes
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What does last year have to do with anything when you think he's played 10-15 games total and he's played twice that many just this year?
 
UConnSwag11 said:
How many games did he play last year? I'm not talking about games he stepped on the floor. Add up the minutes
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A "game played" is any game you step on the court.

He only averaged 5 min per game last year, but he appeared in dozens.
 
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