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I expect Pasqualoni to deliver a winning team with quality recruits. I expect somebody else to handle marketing. Among the people who can contribute to marketing: the fans on the Boneyard recruiting friends and family. Programs get built virally, one connection at a time and one year at a time.
 
No offense to speak of. Losing to Western Michigan at home last year. No bowl = no buzz whatsoever. 33K for NC State = pathetic. That's on the fans of course but it's also on Coach P. Today may have been the most poorly attended game since the Rent opened and I believe it is a product of the downward slide over the past year.

No, you can't use that as your "data" for your argument, since you were comparing the attendance last week versus this week. Since the attendance was better last week versus a very weak FBS member and somewhat unexciting opponent, it's not Coach P's fault that the attendance was worse today for a much more exciting OOC opponent. Simple as that...
 
Offense and wins build programs and sell tickets better than anything I am aware of. I love the good defense, but you can only trade on that for so long.
 
Unfortunately we are stuck with Deleone don't believe it is possible to learn a new offense in te middle of the year hopefully he can turn the offense around.
Coach Deleone your moves are old. You are the thirty year ol going after high school girls. Retire gracefully
 
Offense and wins build programs and sell tickets better than anything I am aware of. I love the good defense, but you can only trade on that for so long.

You can remove the word "offense" and just stick with "wins." I'm pretty confident that losing 42-41 sells no more or less tickets than losing 10-7...
 
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You can remove the word "offense" and just stick with "wins." I'm pretty confident that losing 42-41 sells no more or less tickets than losing 10-7...

OK. winning offense. Touchdowns sell tickets. Sacks don't.
 
No, you can't use that as your "data" for your argument, since you were comparing the attendance last week versus this week. Since the attendance was better last week versus a very weak FBS member and somewhat unexciting opponent, it's not Coach P's fault that the attendance was worse today for a much more exciting OOC opponent. Simple as that...
Why can't I? Attendance was down last year and today, against an ACC opponent, it was the fewest I've seen at the Rent in its 10 years. I've missed one game in that time. If you have 33-34K today, what will Buffalo look like in three weeks?

What has P done to energize the base?
 
Why can't I? Attendance was down last year and today, against an ACC opponent, it was the fewest I've seen at the Rent in its 10 years. I've missed one game in that time. If you have 33-34K today, what will Buffalo look like in three weeks?

What has P done to energize the base?

You can't because your entire argument was based on today versus the attendance of the UMass game. Last year has nothing to do with the difference in attendance between the UMass game and today's game, unless you are suggesting that there were 10,000 UMass fans at last week's game...
 
Nah! Don't agree with that. Winning is everything, and a 10-2 defensive team sells a crapload more tickets than a high-octane 5-7 team...

You missed the key adjective. Winning offense. Not happenstance Edsall offense.
 
My argument is based on a cumulative lack of results and a stagnant offense are leading to a lack of interest from the casual fan. We do not have a huge base of die hards. UMass was an old friend that brought out some old fans.
 
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Nah! Don't agree with that. Winning is everything, and a 10-2 defensive team sells a crapload more tickets than a high-octane 5-7 team...

Name one high octane offense team that went 5-7.
 
My argument is based on a cumulative lack of results and a stagnant offense are leading to a lack of interest from the casual fan. We do not have a huge base of die hards. UMass was an old friend that brought out some old fans.

Some people don't believe that not winning and not scoring won't affect attendance. It just never pays to argue against a completely dumb argument.
 
You can remove the word "offense" and just stick with "wins." I'm pretty confident that losing 42-41 sells no more or less tickets than losing 10-7...
So exciting football is no more marketable than HCPPzzzzzzzz snooze ball?
 
Why can't I? Attendance was down last year and today, against an ACC opponent, it was the fewest I've seen at the Rent in its 10 years. I've missed one game in that time. If you have 33-34K today, what will Buffalo look like in three weeks?

What has P done to energize the base?

We have the same issue with MBB and WBB attendence falling each year. Is that JC and GA fault?. We have fickle bandwagon fans in CT.
 
Name one high octane offense team that went 5-7.

The words "high-octane" may have been ill-chosen, but an example would be Texas Tech last year (5-7), who finished 22nd in the nation in total offense. They put up more than 34 points in 8 games last season!! And still found a way to lose 7 games...
 
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So exciting football is no more marketable than HCPPzzzzzzzz snooze ball?

what's wrong with you people?!? I said "wins" is what makes a team marketable!! What's the point if you have exciting losses?? In other words, our attendance was quite good under Edsall through all of last decade, and most people would not argue the fact that we haven't had a competent QB since Orlovsky. Am I right, or did we have a gigantic dip in attendance when we were winning things with a pounding run game and solid defense?
 
Ask our friends at Syracuse how exciting their fanbase thougth it was when they lost to NW 42-41...
 
The words "high-octane" may have been ill-chosen, but an example would be Texas Tech last year (5-7), who finished 22nd in the nation in total offense. They put up more than 34 points in 8 games last season!! And still found a way to lose 7 games...

I bet they still sold more tickets than us.
 
I bet they still sold more tickets than us.

Perhaps, but in Lubbock, all there is to do is to watch football and....well, watch football....
 
Changes need to be made but I don't believe it will be until the end of the year. In regards to the attendance, the fans in the State have never supported the State U. I've been a ticket holder since the start at the Rent, and the fans have always come late and left early no matter who we play. Today's game was a quality team and the stadium attendance was very disappointing. Do you think we'll ever sell out another game at the Rent? Michigan comes next year? How sad would it be if Michigan took over the stadium? I would expect more Michigan fans the State U fans after today's showing. Imagine if they banned or limited tailgating in the parking lots? I'm not even sure what percentage we would lose. Sad :(
 
Changes need to be made but I don't believe it will be until the end of the year. In regards to the attendance, the fans in the State have never supported the State U. I've been a ticket holder since the start at the Rent, and the fans have always come late and left early no matter who we play. Today's game was a quality team and the stadium attendance was very disappointing. Do you think we'll ever sell out another game at the Rent? Michigan comes next year? How sad would it be if Michigan took over the stadium? I would expect more Michigan fans the State U fans after today's showing. Imagine if they banned or limited tailgating in the parking lots? I'm not even sure what percentage we would lose. Sad :(

I'm guessing that the Michigan game will be sold out (even if it is due to about 6k of their fans). This problem goes back to before UConn was even 1-A. I'll mention a little pro team in Hartford called "The Whalers" that drew extremely well in years where they were good (i.e., 86 when they won the Adams Division), but for most of the years struggled to fill the building unless the Bruins were in town.

I was hoping that the state's love affair with the BBall teams was going to translate well to football, and to some degree it has, but I think that people treat it much more like a town fair than a college football event. I brought two of my friends to the UConn-USF game last year (they happened to be Florida Gator fans from Fla that wanted to see a Big East game). Even though I thought the stadium was loud and well-attended, their comment to me at halftime was, "Is it always this 'tame'?" Yeah, I guess we aren't "The Swamp"...
 
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Perhaps, but in Lubbock, all there is to do is to watch football and....well, watch football....

That's not a valid excuse. It's difficult to fill a stadium when the fans are convinced that the product will be disappointing.

The athletic dept sells the tickets but Pasqualoni controls the product. If he can't deliver a good product then it becomes a tough sell.
 
Why can't Deleone go do what all the other old farts do in CT hang around Mcdonald's drinking a senior coffee instead of "coaching" our offense and oline.
I know older people require naps but "Snooozzzzze ball" has to go before the season is lost.
 
Ask our friends at Syracuse how exciting their fanbase thougth it was when they lost to NW 42-41...
It was very exciting - after a decade + of crap, boring, try to shorten the game offense uder P&D, the GRob and then most of the time under Marrone it was very exciting seeing the team put up 600 yards against a BCS team.
 
It was very exciting - after a decade + of crap, boring, try to shorten the game offense uder P&D, the GRob and then most of the time under Marrone it was very exciting seeing the team put up 600 yards against a BCS team.



Scoring sells. This is the northeast. Lots of people, lots of teams and lots of entertainment options. You want a loud, sold out stadium? Put some ducking points on the board.
 
Scoring sells. This is the northeast. Lots of people, lots of teams and lots of entertainment options. You want a loud, sold out stadium, put some ducking points on the board.

This. But for some reason, people still think that in the northeast to be successful, you have run an offense that was state of the art during the Carter Administration, and play football like it's November when it is 80 degrees in early September.
 
Scoring sells. This is the northeast. Lots of people, lots of teams and lots of entertainment options. You want a loud, sold out stadium, put some ducking points on the board.

Is that how Snookie U put 50k in High Point versus FCS MEAC powerhouse Howard University today.(I know - take swings @ announced attendance versus bodies in the buildind but no different than us).
 
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