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As we are talking about a T-shirt and all the accolades that were listed and that morphed into Sue Bird as she was wearing that T-Shirt, you added Kerry, to which I simply responded Maya and noted how very good a player Kerry was but simply is not as accomplished as Maya who's T-shirt would be eerily similar to DTs.
So, not sure where you come up with "no" (?) vs. "know" what you're talking about". Maya's credentials for a T-shirt and what she's done for UConn and BB and LIFE all are deserving of top 3.
The question was about the last shot at UConn! That is what I responded to and because you are wrong! So keep being the guy who can never admit he's wrong! You add all this other stuff to make you feel good! The three players to take the last shot in UConn history are Dee, Bird and Bascom!!!
 
I looked it up and saw that I always thought he played OF more To get Elston Howard’s bat in the lineup thou it was before my time
 
I looked it up and saw that I always thought he played OF more To get Elston Howard’s bat in the lineup thou it was before my time
Howard’s bat AND glove! He was a great catcher, even if he always stepped out of the box too soon on intentional walks! No ump ever called him on it, though.
 
Howard’s bat AND glove! He was a great catcher, even if he always stepped out of the box too soon on intentional walks! No ump ever called him on it, though.
But reading up on Berra he was considered a good catcher also
 
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The question was about the last shot at UConn! That is what I responded to and because you are wrong! So keep being the guy who can never admit he's wrong! You add all this other stuff to make you feel good! The three players to take the last shot in UConn history are Dee, Bird and Bascom!!!

Why are you yelling? And I don’t understand your argument - only 3 UConn players took the last shot? It’s a shame that the teams that they didn’t play on had no one to take the last shot.
 
Yogi 13 World Series and Mariano 5.
I never prescribed to the, "Won Championships" determines if someone is great or not. If so, Frankie Crosetti would be one of sports greatest athletes. Hint: he isn't. However, he won 17 championships, 9 as a player and 8 as a coach. Other multiple championship winners that I can think of off the top of my head are Will Perdue and Curt Rambis who I believe won four and three respectively. Who is better Karl Malone or one of those two? Sometimes you just have to be lucky. You can be sitting on the far end of the bench and win a championship, or you could be the key component on a team that never got over the hump. People use the argument about Bill Russell winning eleven all the time. That was before my time, but it could be possible that he had a pretty good team around him. I have always considered Chamberlain the best based on shear individual numbers. Even that is subjective, because someone like Jordan (or DT) made those around them better, and that might be as important.
 
Only tennis players, golfers and chess players can truly be judged on wins alone and maybe bowlers too...:cool:
 
I never prescribed to the, "Won Championships" determines if someone is great or not. If so, Frankie Crosetti would be one of sports greatest athletes. Hint: he isn't. However, he won 17 championships, 9 as a player and 8 as a coach. Other multiple championship winners that I can think of off the top of my head are Will Perdue and Curt Rambis who I believe won four and three respectively. Who is better Karl Malone or one of those two? Sometimes you just have to be lucky. You can be sitting on the far end of the bench and win a championship, or you could be the key component on a team that never got over the hump. People use the argument about Bill Russell winning eleven all the time. That was before my time, but it could be possible that he had a pretty good team around him. I have always considered Chamberlain the best based on shear individual numbers. Even that is subjective, because someone like Jordan (or DT) made those around them better, and that might be as important.
Championships are certainly not the only criteria for greatness, but IMO they absolutely are a required one (So... Frankie Crosetti - no way. And Ted Williams - no way).

"It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ring."

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In a team sport where one individual, no matter how transcendent, has only a small impact on the final outcome, it's silly to make a championship a requirement when determining the "greatness" of a player. Take a look at Ted Williams page at Baseball Reference and then tell me he is not a top 10 all time player. And Willie Mays, perhaps the greatest of them all, only won 1 championship. Does that diminish his greatness? I don't think so.
 
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The question was about the last shot at UConn! That is what I responded to and because you are wrong! So keep being the guy who can never admit he's wrong! You add all this other stuff to make you feel good! The three players to take the last shot in UConn history are Dee, Bird and Bascom!!!
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Except that, as an everyday catcher, Yogi was on the field a LOT more than the great Mariano. And arguably the greatest catcher of all-time. Finally, Berra had a higher career WAR. It's an interesting discussion.
Jonathan, you are completely accurate. Anyone who has ever played organized baseball from Little Leage, Pony League, Babe Ruth League, to college or pro, knows that catcher is, without argument, the most difficult position in the game. He is responsible for knowing each hitter and where to defend him. He has to handle every pitch from a blazing fast ball to a "Where the hell is it" knuckler. It is no coincidence that the majority of players who move on to managerial positions are drawn from the catcher's ranks. They have to be not only tough but intelligent. Anyone who thinks that Yogi didn't possess these qualities in abundance probably only zeroed in on some of his gaffes while using the English language. Don't kid yourself. Many of these were thought out. He made a small fortune in endorsements when most other players were getting pennies on the dollar and was also one of the first players in any sport to have his own "museum."
 

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