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The season seems to have turned on one moment--Hurley's T in the Memphis game. (He just could not hear me screaming at the TV for him to siddown.) I thought that he was more restrained during the last two seasons, despite his cartoonish facial expressions.
 
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Yes.

The sum is painfully and comically so much less than the parts.

Hurley just started Samson Johnson again over Reed and Samson played 11 more minutes than Reed. He played Tarris 3 minutes in the second half.
We are not a very good team. AT THIS POINT. Just recognize it, amend your previous statements, and pull back. You are smart enough to do so.
 
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We are not a very good team. AT THIS POINT. Just recognize it, amend your previous statements, and pull back. You are smart enough to do so.
No shart, we're a terrible team at this point.

That has nothing to do with our talent.

You think Dayton who just curbstomped us has more talent than we do? Really, you are smart enough to know they don't.
 
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I'm also selling Ross stock. He gambles far too much on defense and is not fundamentally sound.
He's a walking foul out there. He gets beat and then reacts wildly to try and rectify. It's like he's playing at 110 mph in a 55 zone. There might be some talent in there but until he calms down I don't see him as a positive on the D end.
 
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Another issue is this team has a lack-of-leadership issue. I thought Karajan would be it but these 3 games makes me think it's not in his character to be that guy. McNeeley is probably the best possibility for that. We need someone to step up and be a leader on the court for this team, holding everyone responsible.
 
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Clingan is the best defensive player we've ever had and our most impactful player since Bazz.

He looked like the best defensive big man already in the NBA when he was starting before the injury.
Don't forget Steph Castle. Did you see his Defence on Steph Curry. Losing both and not replacing them with dccent players has hurt us.
 
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Are we not quick enough to defend?
Are we not tough enough to defend?
Do we not know how to defend?

Able to watch a full uninterrupted half for the first time this season. Saw the second half. We were two stops away from taking over the game at 43’s, couldn’t do it and then the roof caved in.

Lots to point to but Defense is it. We make those 2 stops and maybe get something going. Don’t know if we were capable of that though. Why not?
 
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Another issue is this team has a lack-of-leadership issue. I thought Karajan would be it but these 3 games makes me think it's not in his character to be that guy. McNeeley is probably the best possibility for that. We need someone to step up and be a leader on the court for this team, holding everyone responsible.
I said the same think about Karaban in Chat. Also, I thought Diarra was supposed to be more vocal. He has looked pretty quiet on the court too. It will probably have to be McNeeley.
 
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I guess that’s if we truly felt we were a top 2 or 3 team in the nation at the start the season. The first 4 games showed me we had no dominating player, and the hype fell into the polls.This team just doesn’t come close to passing the eye test right now, and didn’t to start the season either.

But this looks like a very normal underclassman led team. Karaban is still not showing he’s physical enough, and we haven’t done anything good in terms of giving him(or anyone) spacing down low to go to work…

I expect it to look very different by January/February…the question is, will it be too late?
Why do you expect it to look very different? It is so obvious that this roster is painfully slow and unathletic. No amount of good shooting can overcome that.

we obviously have to get Karaban and McNeeley their minutes but get Nowell, Abrahamp, Stewart, and Reed as many minutes as possible for next season. This season is hopeless. Solo is a good bench piece. Ross, Singare and Mahaney are not UConn level players. Better work the portal too since all our highly ranked recruits are not super athleti. We are seeing right now what a full roster of “shooters“ without athleticism looks like
 
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Why do you expect it to look very different? It is so obvious that this roster is painfully slow and unathletic. No amount of good shooting can overcome that.

we obviously have to get Karaban and McNeeley their minutes but get Nowell, Abrahamp, Stewart, and Reed as many minutes as possible for next season. This season is hopeless. Solo is a good bench piece. Ross, Singare and Mahaney are not UConn level players. Better work the portal too since all our highly ranked recruits are not super athleti. We are seeing right now what a full roster of “shooters“ without athleticism looks like

Chill
 
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Maybe if we were sold a rebuild year and not the quest for a 3-peat…

The expectations were set WAY too high for this team and I really think that is a part of what is happening here. We need to be the underdog again. Maybe there is a silver lining in all of this…

Our team doesn’t look like a team right now. Everyone is out of place. Mahaney is in the wrong role. Karaban played a great role in both NC but I don’t know that he can be relied upon as the leader of this team, just doesn’t have the personality for it. Samson Johnson I thought gained weight and developed better post moves, but instead we are watching a 4 year player who doesn’t look like he has developed much. Older fans may remember Hilton Armstrong growth from Junior to Senior year, and that was what we should have with SJ. Diarra should be a leader on this team, and maybe he is in the locker room, but we need someone doing that on the floor. Hard to win without leadership on the floor.

There is a lot of talk on here about talent. Every one of these guys arrived here with a resume and their talent thoroughly evaluated. We weren’t the first to evaluate them and all of them came with a top 150 assessment. I don’t think we have a recruiting issue or a talent issue. I think we have a bench team with a returning starter, some promising freshman and a couple of transfers that are struggling to adjust. No synergy because there isn’t a team yet. That will take time and the patience that some in our fan base apparently don’t have much of. Everyone here who was singing praises about Hurley up until last week, who is now doubting his abilities at this point, should really stop watching sports entirely.
 
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When/ Will Danny see that we don’t have athleticism overall or height at guard to defend no help man in your face which Hurley wants to play. He needs to tone down HIS defensive identity and get it to fit our roster construction. Mahaney was able to play defense for 2 yrs at St marys.

You have to adjust as a coach. We can get taken 1 on 1 at every spot every game if we leave lesser athletes on island without Clingan behind them. We arent a defensive man lockdown team and wont be this year with our roster. Press some? Sag off our men? Play help D? Zone some? If you give up athleticism for BbIQ you have to fit your personnel. Concerns me with next years recruits athleticism as well if we don’t adjust.
 
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