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McNeeley is a freshman. It happens.

Solo was abysmal. Alex has to be better.

All in all this falls at the throne of none other than Dan Hurley. All of our issues were classic cases of poor coaching. Idk what they’re working on. This team doesn’t need to master Dan’s elite offensive playbook. They need to learn fundamentals.

Dan shows passion and enthusiasm and people say he needs to be neutered. Dan neuters himself and fans say he needs to coach better.

He needs to be himself.

He also needs to stop overthinking this. Stop playing Johnson, limit Solo’s minutes, and increase Nowell’s, Stewart’s, and Reed’s minutes.
 
That was even more inexplicable than Jaylin being glued to the bench. I'm used to Jaylin always getting the short end of the stick but benching Reed felt like Hurley forfeited the game.

I have no clue what he's doing with this team.
Yeah that is baffling. No way we should of been out rebounded like that but when Samson is your starter, Karaban another average game even though he scored and McNeeley hurt I guess that explains it. Might as well play Isiah Abraham at this point. Wasn't he know for being a great defender coming in. He has the body to rebound and play D.
 
I thought he would be right as he’s been right for a lot of things, but having zero defensive presence at center and no point guard is a fatal flaw of this team
I understand what you mean..but the lack of a center presence is being exacerbated by the utter lack of perimeter defense…late switches, long rebounds, etc…no excuses for the guys, but it’s all a self fulfilling prophecy right now.

We are doing things poorly in a compounding manner.
 
Today was the first day I really concentrated on Ball playing defense. Wow he is a total mess. He never pressures anyone and then when the guy drives he tries to let him go by for the block but let him get too much ground and he and he can't do anything. He helps on defense when he shouldn't and doesn't get back to cover the man he left. He is just doing everything in like 5th gear. If he wasn't making shots he wouldn't be on the floor.

He’s borderline unplayable which is scary because he’s not even the worst perimeter defender on the team.
 
I don't think anyone is saying it's a certainty, definitely not me. But we've had exactly 0 practices since these flaws have been truly exposed. I'd like to see what happens with that before I say we're missing the NIT and say Dan Hurley is a bad coach

This.

I think things can be fixed. Starts at the point with Nowell, his time is now.... earlier than anyone planned but Mahaney is a 2 Hass is a 6th man game changer. This season can be corrected but A LOT depends on the freshman.
 
I don't think anyone is saying it's a certainty, definitely not me. But we've had exactly 0 practices since these flaws have been truly exposed. I'd like to see what happens with that before I say we're missing the NIT and say Dan Hurley is a bad coach
This is the only silver lining in all of this. We've not had any practice time for the staff to fix the glaring issues on this team. This is not to say that I expect them to turn this team into a national champion contender, that ship sailed when they decided on the roster construction. But before I start worrying about making the tournament, I want to see how this team evolves over the next 15 days.
 
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Dan shows passion and enthusiasm and people say he needs to be neutered. Dan neuters himself and fans say he needs to coach better.

He needs to be himself.

He also needs to stop overthinking this. Stop playing Johnson, limit Solo’s minutes, and increase Nowell’s, Stewart’s, and Reed’s minutes.
I’ve never asked him to change his sideline behavior. But this team is clearly poorly prepared at the moment. Thats coaching. He’s a hall of fame coach. He knows he needs to be better.
 
Hurley has to stop his infatuation with small undersized mid major guards. Let’s not forget he almost made the same mistake last year with Nick Timberlake. Cam Spencer saved his bacon. No more undersized mid major guards!
And with Cam we stuck him next to an All American PG who averaged 6 asts a game, a top 10 PG recruit who can also get him shots, the best stretch 4 in college hoops, and a generational big man.

We didn’t ask him to carry an offense as a PG.

But something something something. Positionless basketball
 
Whatever the coaching staff is showing these kids isn't working and their evaluation of this roster was way off. Time for the staff to have a huge evaluation meeting and the team just has to relearn things.Need to go back to the fundamentals of defense. .Just not playing as a team, all positions need to be up for grabs.
 
Well. Thankful for 6 championships and two back to back. Forget about this whole tourney. I think this team will be good. We were demoralized by two losses by 3 points total and lost confidence and steam tonight. Not an excuse but it happened. We’ll be better off for this with all the hot air we had built up.
 
McNeeley going 0-9 was rough because he got a lot of good looks, including at the basket, but I don't think he will have a ton of games like that.

Last year's team was able to go on so many huge runs because they got stops, this week we gave up a big bucket every time we got some momentum. When we finally forced a missed shot, we either gave up an offensive board or took a bad shot down at the other end almost every time.

I'm still holding out hope that we just got punched in the mouth vs Memphis and didn't do a good job bouncing back, but we've just gotta be harder to play against than we were in this tournament.
 
McNeeley is a freshman. It happens.
Probably tired/sore too but damn.

So many missed closeouts it was painful to watch for a third straight game. I can hit threes too if I am just totally undefended.

Where are the guys crashing the glass, so many times tonight I saw two or three Dayton players under the basket and not a single Husky. Those are fouls I can live with, especially under the current circumstances.

I haven’t given up and I sure as hell hope they haven’t either but there is serious work to be done practically everywhere. I knew this was going to be a rougher season but didn’t expect this level tbh.
 
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This.

I think things can be fixed. Starts at the point with Nowell, his time is now.... earlier than anyone planned but Mahaney is a 2 Hass is a 6th man game changer. This season can be corrected but A LOT depends on the freshman.
I like to see Isaiah Abrahams get a chance to show what he can do as Jaylen Ross and Jaylin Steward aren't giving me confidence. Especially Ross who is getting more playing time than Steawart for some reason. I guess they think Ross can play D but guess what he can't.
 
If I hear one more UConn fan complain about the foul disparity, I am going to tap their heads to a television monitor and force them to watch our defense on a loop.

We do not have one player, save Diarra, who even approaches competence defensively.

Also, I really love when teams have point guards because when they don’t, they lose to Dayton by 500 points and finish last in Hawaiian tournaments.
To be fair, you said the same thing about not having a point guard two years ago with Tristen Newton and we went on to win consecutive titles.
 
The combination of not only not playing defense, but not playing defense while fouling is something to see. The defense will come around (maybe not to Hurley standards, but enough).

The fact that there is no one capable of leading this team through the offense outside of Ball is more troubling. And Ball cannot be that guy because he is the best at running off ball screens.

The team needs one of Mahaney or Nowell to figure it out.
 
Stewart is not inexplicably in the doghouse. He’s the worst defender on a team already struggling to play defense.
You’ve got to be kidding. He was bad defensively vs Dayton, but the whole team was bad. For whatever reason he’s got the shortest leash on the team. Getting the hook for any missed shot or mistake will give any player the jumpy yips. Coaching malpractice. Go back and watch the first half of the Memphis game. Stewart dropped an unconscious 14 and was totally in flow. Hurley then benches him for most of the 2nd half and gives him a quick hook after a missed three. Every UConn player that’s shot a 3 over the last three games has air balled at least one, Jaylin’s the only one getting hooked. In one case where Jaylin had to guard the Colorado center that torched Samson and Reed, Stewart stood him up in the post and forced a pass out. Something we hardly saw all game! It is inexplicable why he’s getting benched when the others are awful. Hurley should be pouring confidence into these guys, he’s going to need all of them.
 
The sophomore class in general is just incredibly mid, the whole "Fab Five" thing was cringey from the jump. They literally look surprised when they do anything good. It's a talent deficit, that can/will be resolved by recruiting higher-ranked players and being cutthroat with roster management, if you catch my drift. We were sold this myth of being 8-10 deep and we're really like 2 or 3 deep on any given night against real competition.
 
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Anyone else a bit worried that Castle may end up being the only hit on talent evaluation from the 2023 class? It has been a pattern with Hurley that the kids he recruits are either above and beyond hits (Clingan, Jackson, Hawkins, Sanogo, Castle) or mid-major type misses (Diggins, Floyd, Gaffney)
 
Anyone else a bit worried that Castle may end up being the only hit on talent evaluation from the 2023 class? It has been a pattern with Hurley that the kids he recruits are either above and beyond hits (Clingan, Jackson, Hawkins, Sanogo, Castle) or mid-major type misses (Diggins, Floyd, Gaffney)
Let’s not go over the top. He’s recruited 2 NC level teams
 
This reminds me of the 21-22 team, which was one of the most fouled teams in the nation and could not defend the perimeter to safe its life.
This is my fear too, it feels like a regression on every level to this. I hope they can overcome and reverse course and make for another positive season overall.
 
Let’s not go over the top. He’s recruited 2 NC level teams
Totally agree there, just feel like his recruiting history has been low floor high ceiling. Fortunately more high ceilings than low floors, just worried we might have ended up with more of those low floors on this roster
 
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Enjoy Thanksgiving everyone.

Be thankful for Dan Hurley and all he has given us.

Remember it’s November.

Remember it’s a brand new team.

Remember you love Hurley as a psycho.

Remember the success Hurley’s had with lesser talent.

Eat some good food.

Watch some crap football matchups tomorrow.

Drink, and then drink some more.
 
Totally agree there, just feel like his recruiting history has been low floor high ceiling. Fortunately more high ceilings than low floors, just worried we might have ended up with more of those low floors on this roster
The “talent” is fine. It’s just at the wrong positions. We have too much redundancy. We needed a versatile high level defender(castle, Jackson, Martin, Whaley) and even more glaring a point guard. The accumulation of talent on this roster doesn’t fit into a winning formula right now
 
Dropped to #28 in KenPom, lowest we've been in 3 years. #7 offense, #84 defense. Ouch.
 
The “talent” is fine. It’s just at the wrong positions. We have too much redundancy. We needed a versatile high level defender(castle, Jackson, Martin, Whaley) and even more glaring a point guard. The accumulation of talent on this roster doesn’t fit into a winning formula right now
Agree and disagree. We need to invest in Nowell and Reed. No more time for games. And the wings really need to step up their game, particularly on the defensive end.
 
Agree and disagree. We need to invest in Nowell and Reed. No more time for games. And the wings really need to step up their game, particularly on the defensive end.
Definitely. It’s just not ideal to rely on a freshman pg. That couldn’t have been the plan going into the season. Were forced into it now
 
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