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shiverz45 said:
When Sabrina faces legit teams outside the Pac 12 (Baylor, Louisville, and UConn) most times, she is average at best.
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Was Mississippi St. a legit team last year? Ionescu scorched them in the Tourney.
 
Funny to see the SC homers' "rationale" that Ty is better than Sabrina, and then see the Oregon homers' "counter-rationale" that she isn't. I'm a UConn fan and impartial, but it seems to me that if Ty is the best guard in the country and she's a point guard, then she should be odds-on favorite to win the Lieberman Award, right?

Is that what SC fans expect? Ty will also get the "real" award, presented by the Naismith Hall of Fame? Oh. Thought not. Because you know, Ty knows, Dawn knows, and everyone else knows that Sabrina was the best player, the best guard, the best point guard, and is going to sweep that "real" award - again. This Staley award is now officially a joke.
 
HuskyNan said:
It’s the off-season so rules relax somewhat.
Me, I’m disappointed Crystal wasn’t nominated. I thought Sabrina deserved the award and I thought Crystal deserved to be nominated.
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Crystal was on the watchlist for this award up until mid season.

The Dawn Staley Award

The Dawn Staley Award is given to the most outstanding collegiate guard in the country; a player who exemplifies the skills that Dawn possessed during her career (ball handling, scoring, her ability to distribute the basketball and her will to win)
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They down selected to 4 finalist sometime after that Carter, Ionescu, Harris & Rhyne Howard.
Crystal was not the only one who got robbed in the downselect IMO, McDonald, Cooper, Dana Evans also did.
Biggest robbery of all was having Zia Cooke on the watch list.

2020 Finalists

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MSGRET said:
How many triple doubles did she have as the PG? Who had the highest Assists per game average?

Sabrina

PPG---17.5
APG----9.1
RPG--- 8.6
T/O----2.9
SPG----1.6

Tyasha

PPG---12.1
APG----5.7
RPG----3.5
T/O----1.9
SPG----1.6

Both had the same Assist to Turn Over average of 3, everything else Sabrina cleans her clock and both are the same height.
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Here again I made this argument about Boston. Harris didn't need to score and dish out assist or rebound at the rate of Sabrina. Harris played half the game on most nights and there are capable scores all up and down the roster. Harris wasn't carrying the team...she just took the first quarter and lead the team to a large halftime lead and just sat on the bench longer than Sabrina. Harris back ups were just as good as most starters on other teams. That's where all the accolades get misplaced. Harris deserved the award...end of conversation.
 
sivad40 said:
Was Sabrina the PG for Oregon or the SG?
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Doesn't matter with respect to the purpose of The Dawn Staley Award. That award is supposed to go to the "best guard" in D1. Ionescu played a guard position.
 
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GameReadyGC said:
Wow. Tough crowd. SC was a really good team. A few of u sit here and say SC did not deserve the #1 ranking and Harris do not deserve the award . I smell some BS. You might not like Dawn personality but she is a great coach. And Harris is one of the top 3 PG in the nation and deserved the award. I watch a lot of basketball and SC had a great chance on winning it all. This team was locked on defense and had scores.. Period. Yall are MADD.
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Harris May be one of the top three point guards in the country. But the award is for the best point guard.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Was Mississippi St. a legit team last year? Ionescu scorched them in the Tourney.
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She is a good player. I am sure she had some good games in those situations. I was going off the games I saw. I saw the Louisville game because I ordered Flo Hoops to watch SC. I knew she played well against MSU but I missed that game.
 
I have to take exception with calling Ionescu "average at best" against UConn. She didn't shoot very well, but she was in complete control of that game. Completely carved the UConn defense apart with her passing, Oregon led wire to wire and was hardly threatened all game. Funny the South Carolina fan says Harris doesn't need to score to be effective, then criticizes Ionescu for not scoring. Double standard much? Oregon also has a bunch of scoring options so they don't necessarily need Ionescu to score a lot.
 
I think what we have here is a number of people who haven't seen Ionescu play much and a number of people who haven't seen Harris play much. That certainly describes me. It's hard to make a meaningful comparison between two players if you've really only followed one of them.
 
GameReadyGC said:
Wow. Tough crowd. SC was a really good team. A few of u sit here and say SC did not deserve the #1 ranking and Harris do not deserve the award . I smell some BS. You might not like Dawn personality but she is a great coach. And Harris is one of the top 3 PG in the nation and deserved the award. I watch a lot of basketball and SC had a great chance on winning it all. This team was locked on defense and had scores.. Period. Yall are MADD.
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May I remind our SoCarolina visitors this is a UConn board? We don’t have to approve of the awards being given and we sure as hell don’t have to justify ourselves to visitors on our own board. If you don’t like our opinions, stay on the General board
 
JonathanXIV said:
Harris May be one of the top three point guards in the country. But the award is for the best point guard.
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Lol . I understand everyone have their favorites. Sabrina is good but she is no Sue or DT. I am not seeing the hype behind Sabrina. I am not about to debate over the award both ladies are talented . Ty is deserving of the award. Both are equal.
 
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jumpstart said:
Here again I made this argument about Boston. Harris didn't need to score and dish out assist or rebound at the rate of Sabrina. Harris played half the game on most nights and there are capable scores all up and down the roster. Harris wasn't carrying the team...she just took the first quarter and lead the team to a large halftime lead and just sat on the bench longer than Sabrina. Harris back ups were just as good as most starters on other teams. That's where all the accolades get misplaced. Harris deserved the award...end of conversation.
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Or not :rolleyes:
 
SCspur said:
Since SC finished the season #1 yes Harris should be credited for that.
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Massey has Oregon as #1. I hope you do read English.

Massey Ratings - CBW

Computer ratings and rankings for CBW (College Basketball Women's), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.
www.masseyratings.com
 
Why is this still on the UConn Women's Basketball thread and not in the General Women's Basketball thread. All we have hear is a bunch of Gamecock's trying to justify a sham nomination. Let them argue it in the General or on their own boards.
 
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MSGRET said:
Why is this still on the UConn Women's Basketball thread and not in the General Women's Basketball thread. All we have hear is a bunch of Gamecock's trying to justify a shame nomination. Let them argue it in the General or on their own boards.
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I vote for your second option but I am in the minority because it is BY tradition to accept fans of other schools to post basically anything and everything. (As do Huskie fans, so...)
So be it.
 
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shiverz45 said:
You do realize that team success is weighed in these decisions. Tiffany Mitchell has had a better career than 3 of the 4 players you listed. .
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I think you didn't read my post since I mentioned 3 guards who could have been alternatives the year Mitchell won as a junior: ND's Loyd (Unanimous AA) and UConn's KML & Jefferson (2015 Lieberman winner) who all clearly had better team success and I believe career than Mitchell. I also said Mitchell was a worthy winner since she was a 1st team AA that year even if others could have been chosen. I used the WNBA reference (which is where you got the 3 of 4) to point out every OTHER (non SC) award winner was drafted no worse than 3rd while Mitchell was 9th (maybe justifiably because if injury). We are pretty certain Harris will not be drafted top 3 and she will be healthy. Harris is clearly the choice that diminishes the award,
 
I just can't even muster more than a semi-apathetic shrug for these awards debates, knowing we should in the throes of the middle weekend of the NCCAs, which for me is the most exciting 5-6 days of the year. Sigh

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Gamecockfan77 said:
I've never actually seen South Carolina and Oregon fans argue, to be honest.
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We were all just hoping to play it on the court...as the panda sighs.

As for this award, we know Sabrina doesn't care. She's already got her conference POY award, her 2nd conference tourney MVP, multiple consensus AAs including her recent unanimous AP AA, and she will most likely be WNBA #1 draft choice. Those were all things Jewell Loyd of ND achieved when the last SC player won this award. We know Harris will achieve none of this but at least she will have this award. We will see who gets all the other awards that truly matter.
 
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SC fans confuse me. The AP says they were the best team and they want to hang a banner as national champs. AP does not put Harris on the first or second team but they believe the Staley award was correct in naming her college guard of the year. I guess the AP knows more about teams than individual players.
 
DaBball said:
And Harris struggled against Maryland, Indiana, and South Dakota, all top-25 teams.

Oregon would be an upgrade over the Indiana team that beat South Carolina by 15!
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Seems like you are cherry picking. Check the stats of a number of Ionescu less than stellar games before you throw a few out for only Ty
 
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