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06029 said:
There can be no one worse than this


And don’t forget how poorly he recruited. The team still lacks depth because of him.
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I could understand why Warde would get snookered by a young assistant from Notre Dame.

Anyone with access to media guides of Edsall first 3 years with Holtz's players knew what we were gonna be in store for. At least 4-5 years of absolute suckage. Edsall cannot handle anything out of his comfort zone, certainly not coaching players that he didn't recruit. The only thing that stopped the bleeding in the first go around was Orlovsky and the chance to sell players on the Big East. He had neither this time. There was no excuse to not know what we were getting into.
 
Butch said:


Career record is now 80-99.
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So we need to go 19-0 for him to get to .500? It's doable...not likely, but we could have a 19 straight win streak...

Only if we played Rham, E.O Smith, a few Vermont high schools, a few New Hampshire high schools, a few Maine high schools and maybe a few high school in non football countries... :-)
 
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I remembered when DB was hired and how glad we were when we heard about it. I guess we aren't ever going to be happy! I doubt we would ever be happy if we reincarnated Bear Bryant, Joe Paterno, Red Grange and Walter Camp and have DB hire them as co-coach. We would ask DB why it took so long for him to reincarnated them. :-)
 
Drew said:
The buyout is $0. It is inevitable. Fire him.
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not going to happen.
You cannot change coaches every three years, you can't.

He will get one more year unless he leaves on his own. People have short memories of what was here before. #MoreVitaminD #CrazyPressConferences #RecruitedSlowTallPlayers #ThankGodHeIsGone
 
uconnbill said:
not going to happen.
You cannot change coaches every three years, you can't.

He will get one more year unless he leaves on his own. People have short memories of what was here before. #MoreVitaminD #CrazyPressConferences #RecruitedSlowTallPlayers #ThankGodHeIsGone
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This is literally the dumbest logic and I see it pop up all the time. So because the former President and AD made a bad hire we shouldn’t can our current crappy head coach?
 
I still can’t see the rationale behind always looking at Diaco and blaming him. Yes, we had horrible issues with him but he went to a bowl game and beat a highly ranked and undefeated Houston team. He also kept us in games.

People make like Diaco was even worse than he was in reality in order to justify Edsall’s tenure. By any measure, Diaco had more success than Edsall. Yes, Diaco recruited horribly, but if Edsall has a 5 year plan to improve personnel and win games, he’d better accelerate it because our level of improvement over 3 years is minimal at best. We have more speed and talent but it isn’t resulting in better teams.

Enough with Diaco. He’s long gone and we don’t appear to be any better for it.
 
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Hoophound said:
I still can’t see the rationale behind always looking at Diaco and blaming him. Yes, we had horrible issues with him but he went to a bowl game and beat a highly ranked and undefeated Houston team. He also kept us in games.

People make like Diaco was even worse than He was in reality in order to justify Edsall’s tenure. By any measure, Diaco had more success than Edsall. Yes, Diaco recruited horribly, but if Edsall has a 5 year plan to improve personnel and win games, he’d better accelerate it because our level of improvement over 3 years is minimal at best. We have more speed and talent but it isn’t resulting in better teams.

Enough with Diaco. He’s long gone and we don’t appear to be any better for it.
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The rationale is that the first bold is a moot point at this point. He did that with PP's guys for the most part. Give him credit for finding BS, but as far as recruits his guys weren't playing big roles yet.

The 2nd bold is all that is relevant for Edsall's tenure. Has nothing to do with trying to justify Edsall's tenure, its reality.
 
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kemba said:
The rationale is that the first bold is a moot point at this point. He did that with PP's guys for the most part. Give him credit for finding BS, but as far as recruits his guys weren't playing big roles yet.

The 2nd bold is all that is relevant for Edsall's tenure. Has nothing to do with trying to justify Edsall's tenure, its reality.
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Had pretty good defense and he only coached LBs and special teams. It was like he didn’t care if they won or lost as long as the D played well. At the time brought needed energy that unfortunately faded.
 
kemba said:
The rationale is that the first bold is a moot point at this point. He did that with PP's guys for the most part. Give him credit for finding BS, but as far as recruits his guys weren't playing big roles yet.

The 2nd bold is all that is relevant for Edsall's tenure. Has nothing to do with trying to justify Edsall's tenure, its reality.
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I’m not really sure exactly what your point is, and I mean that respectfully. I’m just saying, in this day and age with so many transfers on the market, if you don’t dramatically improve in 3 full seasons, you probably have the wrong coach. Diaco is ancient history when you look at schools like SMU bringing in dozens of players. Why can’t we grab even a handful?

I really want Randy to succeed but he needs to show some signs of life ASAP and losing our best player is not a sign of life. Tyler Coyle is NFL bound and he must really want out to screw with what he’s got going at UConn. It’s risky. He’s a showpiece here yet he wants to leave.
 
gampelcrazies said:
The Big East move is going to be great. Young fans/older fans have rejoiced when it comes to basketball. They will be playing better competition, better tv exposure, rivalries.

I know the football fans aren't happy and I completely get it. But this was the move the school had to make. And I do believe strongly that with the right coach independent can work with football. But it starts with firing Edsall.
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I'm going to admit that I thought the move to the BE was terrible and not going to be what everyone thought it would be. It would be such a huge hit on the FB team that it was an awful move. Then I watched the Xavier game and it was some old school, physical bball and I knew it was the right call.

The FB program is in shambles and it is time that I have admitted that bball is what needs to be the focus of our University and football is just there. I'll still be a huge fan and RE needs to go, but my care for this team is really diminishing as each terrible season wanes on...

So I have to admit that DB is a success. He realized what needed to be done and followed through with it, even if it killed the football program
 
Pudge said:
It is a silly thread and a silly position

Benedict ... Big East Conference, Ollie, Diaco etc. He has made the consequential decisions. He is fine.
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Can't gloss over the fact that he extended both Diaco and Ollie before firing them. Donors stepped up and helped with Diacos buyout, but not Ollie's.
 
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Hoophound said:
I’m not really sure exactly what your point is, and I mean that respectfully. I’m just saying, in this day and age with so many transfers on the market, if you don’t dramatically improve in 3 full seasons, you probably have the wrong coach. Diaco is ancient history when you look at schools like SMU bringing in dozens of players. Why can’t we grab even a handful?

I really want Randy to succeed but he needs to show some signs of life ASAP and losing our best player is not a sign of life. Tyler Coyle is NFL bound and he must really want out to screw with what he’s got going at UConn. It’s risky. He’s a showpiece here yet he wants to leave.
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My point is that Diaco is terrible and no one is making him out to be worse than he was
 
We're lucky to have Benedict. And Edsall is not being fired. He's already putting together a stronger group for next year. Disgruntled players (like disgruntled employees) are corrosive. Let them go, and wish them well, but I'm supporting the players we have and those who will be stepping up.
 
Hoophound said:
People are insinuating that Randy would be doing better if he hadn’t followed Diaco, I disagree. He plays to lose. He tries to protect 7 point leads in the middle of the game, he runs a totally predictable and sometimes mind boggling offense and he just keeps doing the same thing over and over. I think Diaco would have won more games than Edsall the last 3 years even with his plodding FCS players.
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Diaco did all those things to a greater degree than Edsall does. Throw out the occasional fake fg (which were mostly bad decisions) and Diaco is a more conservative Edsall, with a crazy personality that players eventually saw through and stopped responding to, who recruits even worse than Edsall and hasn't shown a track record of developing lightly recruited guys. An aggressive play for Diaco is not fair catching a punt return.

None of this is to defend Edsall, but Diaco is worse at almost everything, and him squeaking out 6 wins with a roster of mostly guys he didn't bring in does not mean he'd be any more successful with the fcs guys he did bring in.
 
Nostical said:
We're lucky to have Benedict. And Edsall is not being fired. He's already putting together a stronger group for next year. Disgruntled players (like disgruntled employees) are corrosive. Let them go, and wish them well, but I'm supporting the players we have and those who will be stepping up.
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So you support the players, but you call the 8 players leaving "corrosive"?? And your evidence of that is what exactly? And your evidence of us being stronger next year while losing multiple starters to defection is what exactly?

No, I have no reason to believe that those players leaving are corrosive, simply because Edsall would have benched them if they were. No, the evidence unfortunately starts to point in the other direction. And I'm saying that as a former Apologista. Unless you have something to share about those players, why make those comments...
 
UConnDan97 said:
So you support the players, but you call the 8 players leaving "corrosive"?? And your evidence of that is what exactly? And your evidence of us being stronger next year while losing multiple starters to defection is what exactly?

No, I have no reason to believe that those players leaving are corrosive, simply because Edsall would have benched them if they were. No, the evidence unfortunately starts to point in the other direction. And I'm saying that as a former Apologista. Unless you have something to share about those players, why make those comments...
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I read his post differently. Basically he was saying it is better to have guys who actually want to be a part of rebuilding UConn football than guys who don't want to be here anymore. It's tough to disagree with that. I didn't read it as a shot at the guys leaving individually.
 
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CL82 said:
I read his post differently. Basically he was saying it is better to have guys who actually want to be a part of rebuilding UConn football than guys who don't want to be here anymore. It's tough to disagree with that. I didn't read it as a shot at the guys leaving individually.
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If I misread it, then my bad. But the words disgruntled and corrosive were used as descriptors. Those aren't often lightly chosen...
 
Drew said:
The buyout is $0. It is inevitable. Fire him.
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I think you should say it to him directly. Tell him he's a coward. At this point, talking junk here means nothing.
 
ktuck911 said:
I think you should say it to him directly. Tell him he's a coward. At this point, talking junk here means nothing.
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I did at Tulane. From the stands about 5 rows back from the field.
 
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I think Diaco would have won more games than Edsall the last 3 years even with his plodding FCS players.
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Like Navy?
 
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