Darius Adams Decommits from UConn

[navery12]

They won’t be turning over an entire new roster every season, there will still be emphasis on recruiting and developing high school talent. There is a balance there of finding a way to get some minutes for young players versus ensuring you have enough high level, older talent on the roster. Ball, Stewart, Reibe, Mullins, Furphy potentially. You need to have some players come up through the system, it still matters imo. Again, I’m glad they upgraded the roster tho, Adams wasn’t ready to play 15-20 minutes.

Of course, I'm not saying they're going to turn over the roster every year. All I'm saying is that those returning sophomores and juniors are going to be getting minutes the prior year as freshmen and sophomores

 

[Hungryhusky99]

I said he was gonna play before we got Malachi Smith. I also said if didn't play we wouldn't see him in a UConn uniform at any point

I mean it was pretty obvious they were going to get another guard in the portal?

 

[gtcam]

I agree with everything you said, except for the part where it's a real loss. He was going to get 0 minutes next year so it's going to have no impact on anything that happens

if he stayed he would have played ZERO minutes next season???????????????? My God I wish he didn't leave and you bet your house on that ridiculous statement. Was there a player on the 24/25 team who recorded zero minutes the entire year? (Kidding, of course about the house)
The loss comes when considering the kid was/is deemed to be a McD AA and was recruited to UConn yet never wears the uniform. I'm wondering if that has happened more than maybe 5-6 times since the portal became the mode of operations in the NCAA

 

[navery12]

I mean it was pretty obvious they were going to get another guard in the portal?

Sure, but we didn't have anyone yet which is why I wasn't putting random names into my guess at the rotation. And honestly I didn't think we were gonna be able to convince someone of Smith's caliber to come here, I thought it would be a guy getting 10 minutes as a backup, not 20+ like Smith

 

[pj]

I feel like this system devalues coaching. If you can become the same player anywhere whats the point in picking a school because of coaching and development?

Either you're a 1 and done these days or your development is being pushed to the side for the sake of winning instantly. Its such an unhealthy system.

Agreed, the incentive for college coaches to invest in long-term player development is no longer there.

What this means is that players are going to have to invest some of that NIL money in hiring private coaches/trainers who will do the long-term player development, while coaches focus on 6-month development of a team.

The new system can work but it puts more responsibility on the players to take a long-term view.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Agreed, the incentive for college coaches to invest in long-term player development is no longer there.

What this means is that players are going to have to invest some of that NIL money in hiring private coaches/trainers who will do the long-term player development, while coaches focus on 6-month development of a team.

The new system can work but it puts more responsibility on the players to take a long-term view.

I personally don't trust those private coaches/trainers to be as good.

In the old college basketball there were entire playstyles predicated by who you played for.

Tom Izzo’s players played a certain way.

Jay Wright players played a certain way.

Calhoun players played a certain way.

Coach K’s played a certain way.

Etc.

College coaches are suppose to be the top tier experts in player development. If players can't expect that and have to get it from the next tier, its not good for the game.

 

[uconndogs]

I feel like this system devalues coaching. If you can become the same player anywhere whats the point in picking a school because of coaching and development?

Either you're a 1 and done these days or your development is being pushed to the side for the sake of winning instantly. Its such an unhealthy system.

Completely valid perspective in my mind. Coaches still need to be able to evaluate talent and coach season to season. But, without the money there's no hope for national championships. It would seem to me that a good NBA coach wiht access to the money to attract and retain talent fits the bill.

 

[Inyatkin]

I think the question is whether it will be formalized in some sense. As in, don't come to Blue Blood program as a freshman, but spend a year at whatever lower-level school and Blue Blood will consider taking you as a sophomore.
It would lead to many teams being glorified minor league programs, which maybe they already are. But you could see a system where it is more or less the expected path forward for everyone who's not a lottery pick freshman year.

 

[boog204]

I think the question is whether it will be formalized in some sense. As in, don't come to Blue Blood program as a freshman, but spend a year at whatever lower-level school and Blue Blood will consider taking you as a sophomore.
It would lead to many teams being glorified minor league programs, which maybe they already are. But you could see a system where it is more or less the expected path forward for everyone who's not a lottery pick freshman year.

Was going to post something similar. If you are a top 50-75 player who is not a 1 or 2 and done guy, there is no point in going to a traditional power team. You will probably not get much, if any, PT because the system necessitates bringing in players who are better at that point from the portal. So you go to a "lower" team, get tons of run, prove you can play, and then bounce. The Ball, Ross, Stew three-year development plan is probably a thing of the past.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Was going to post something similar. If you are a top 50-75 player who is not a 1 or 2 and done guy, there is no point in going to a traditional power team. You will probably not get much, if any, PT because the system necessitates bringing in players who are better at that point from the portal. So you go to a "lower" team, get tons of run, prove you can play, and then bounce. The Ball, Ross, Stew three-year development plan is probably a thing of the past.

This narrative is a UConn centric view and not one based in facts.

More players than not, even outside of the top 100, played big roles for their teams (whether their teams were good or bad).

Guys outside the top 100 who played roles on tournament teams include Christian Anderson (Texas Tech) and Del Jones (Clemson, not a big role but consistent role).

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=PG

These are just the guards, but more guards (Id say 60-70% or more) had roles on their teams. This narrative of guys needing to play way down in order to have a role is overblown.

Adams may go to MSU, not VCU. Acaden may go to St Johns, not St Boneventure.

 

[UConnRock]

Was going to post something similar. If you are a top 50-75 player who is not a 1 or 2 and done guy, there is no point in going to a traditional power team. You will probably not get much, if any, PT because the system necessitates bringing in players who are better at that point from the portal. So you go to a "lower" team, get tons of run, prove you can play, and then bounce. The Ball, Ross, Stew three-year development plan is probably a thing of the past.

This is the trajectory of college basketball right now. There will be a core group of teams that attract the 1-2-and-dones. We used to get excited about developmental commitments from top 100 or top 50 guys, but now we just shrug our shoulders and wonder who will get PT, who will get recruited over from the portal, and who will transfer. I agree that many players are better off going to mid-tier teams to get playing time and exposure. Many college hoops teams will become minor league development camps for the top tier teams with the most NIL to hand out.

 

[jibsey]

if he stayed he would have played ZERO minutes next season???????????????? My God I wish he didn't leave and you bet your house on that ridiculous statement. Was there a player on the 24/25 team who recorded zero minutes the entire year? (Kidding, of course about the house)
The loss comes when considering the kid was/is deemed to be a McD AA and was recruited to UConn yet never wears the uniform. I'm wondering if that has happened more than maybe 5-6 times since the portal became the mode of operations in the NCAA

I think he meant zero meaningful minutes. Of course he was going to get in for a couple of minutes at the end of a 30 point blowout. We all know that.
Reminds me of Abraham’s minutes.

 

[UConniki]

It took Adams 5 months to realize this?

No. It’s more like it took Adams 2 weeks to realize that he had been recruited over.

 

[Mr. French]

Fears was top 25 before his reclass, at least in some of the rankings.

And is a 1st round pick and the only good creating guard on a bad OU team.

The examples given are just not that pertinent.

Imagine thinking Hurley wouldn’t have been playing Jeremy Fears if he was here? Or that Fears is comparable to Nowell?

 

[Deleted at users request]

And is a 1st round pick and the only good creating guard on a bad OU team.

The examples given are just not that pertinent.

Imagine thinking Hurley wouldn’t have been playing Jeremy Fears if he was here? Or that Fears is comparable to Nowell?

There's far more players than him French. I tried to start a thread about how freshmen fared overall this year to have a wider view, but unfortunately it's being prevented from posting.

 

[HooperScooper]

No. It’s more like it took Adams 2 weeks to realize that he had been recruited over.

I'll post this for the 3rd time in this thread. Last fall he was expected to be behind Mahaney and Nowell at the 1. They were both expected to be really good at UConn at that time. There were 2 other recruits at the 2/3 in his class and last fall you could say Ross at the 2/3 would also be ahead of him. So nothing really has changed since November when he signed on as far as expectations for the roster. I guess he finally realized he just can't compete as a freshman at UConn because there are always going to be good players here.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I just don't think that's going to be a thing anymore. Top 25 recruits are not going to go anywhere where they sit and wait for a season. I don't even think many top 100 players are going to sign up for that anymore. Unless there's a clear path to minutes they're going to go somewhere else to play, and then transfer as a sophomore or junior back to a high major if they're ready

And their playing time landing spot is going to be mid majors. As the power schools start getting 20 and 21 year old young men who have played a few seasons of CBB, HS kids who used to sit on the bench of power schools will go to mid majors and start.

 

[UCFan1513]

And their playing time landing spot is going to be mid majors. As the power schools start getting 20 and 21 year old young men who have played a few seasons of CBB, HS kids who used to sit on the bench of power schools will go to mid majors and start.

Could be better for parity. Because if mid majors keep getting stripped of veteran talent and don’t recruit at a higher level, then the tournament is about to become a real snooze fest (like it was this year)

 

[woodchuck68]

Was going to post something similar. If you are a top 50-75 player who is not a 1 or 2 and done guy, there is no point in going to a traditional power team. You will probably not get much, if any, PT because the system necessitates bringing in players who are better at that point from the portal. So you go to a "lower" team, get tons of run, prove you can play, and then bounce. The Ball, Ross, Stew three-year development plan is probably a thing of the past.

Youre prob right. Tho if uconn is as good as we are hoping and those three really explode, then maybe theres a path to show other 4 stars going forward?

 

[Deleted at users request]

I'll post this for the 3rd time in this thread. Last fall he was expected to be behind Mahaney and Nowell at the 1. They were both expected to be really good at UConn at that time. There were 2 other recruits at the 2/3 in his class and last fall you could say Ross at the 2/3 would also be ahead of him. So nothing really has changed since November when he signed on as far as expectations for the roster. I guess he finally realized he just can't compete as a freshman at UConn because there are always going to be good players here.

The rumblings so far say Alabama may be a destination who aren't a low tier program.

I don't know if he's necessarily running away from competition as much as he may feel like this coaching staff made moves that showed they weren't trusting him to play much this year.

 

[businesslawyer]

I feel like this system devalues coaching. If you can become the same player anywhere whats the point in picking a school because of coaching and development?

Either you're a 1 and done these days or your development is being pushed to the side for the sake of winning instantly. Its such an unhealthy system.

The system absolutely devalues coaching and values MONEY.

 

[boog204]

This narrative is a UConn centric view and not one based in facts.

More players than not, even outside of the top 100, played big roles for their teams (whether their teams were good or bad).

Guys outside the top 100 who played roles on tournament teams include Christian Anderson (Texas Tech) and Del Jones (Clemson, not a big role but consistent role).

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=PG

These are just the guards, but more guards (Id say 60-70% or more) had roles on their teams. This narrative of guys needing to play way down in order to have a role is overblown.

Adams may go to MSU, not VCU. Acaden may go to St Johns, not St Boneventure.

Hence why I said top 50-100 guys - both Adams and Lewis are top 20- 30ish guys who both made headlines when they decommitted. And also why I said "traditional" power teams. I could've been more specific and said teams that are top ten types. Sure, there's going to be some non-McD AA type freshmen making impacts (hoping for Furphy), but I would expect to see more and more Nowell and Abraham situations when a guy in that middle to lower half of the top 100 recruit list tries to get time at a major, contending school. It's just not going to happen. I think Dan Hurley still values the idea of development and continuity, but I just think it's going to be rarer and rarer for teams like us. People on here at their usually Pitino trigger when he talked about not recruiting high school kids anymore, but I get it outside of your one or two and done types.

Look at Demary. He was a top 60 recruit. If he had gone to us or another natty contending type team out of high school, he's probably on the bench for a year or two and then transferring out. Instead, he goes to Georgia, proves he can play, and then jumps to the top.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

nomar is a lawyer so you'd figure he would stay away from fiction to prove his point. At least an experience retired attorney like yourself understands that.

He provided zero facts. He questioned whether I had proof. And what is the counter-narrative to what seems to be pretty freaking obvious to 90% of the guys here?

And as I said, I read Storrs Central. Not only is it for a good cause, but it’s great if you like facts rather than being unreasonably contrarian!

My comment was pure substance-free rhetoric, a notch up from gratuitous, drive-by, one-off ish-posting, with no greater purpose than to affirm my sense of marvel at the competitive mutually-exclusive speculations that fuel each off-season and here include the never before possible opportunity to weigh in on a 5-star decommitting.

Some time soon, we'll see where Darius Adams lands. Likely, some back story regarding the why and how will emerge with varying degrees of backup facts. And we'll ultimately learn who fills out the UConn roster, and later how well they play in the context of next year's schedule. We'll also see how well those who have transferred, decommitted, or are the result of other schools 'outrecruiting' UConn play. Certain aspects of the drama differ each year, but this is how it always plays out.

I unambiguously admit that I can't keep up, and do not mind that I can't.

I'm fussy & cranky regarding the wide variety in the signal-to-noise ratios of the competing voices; busy with multiple interests elsewhere; still delighted by fun videos related to the WBB Natty; and spending more time outside in the milder temperatures that accompany springtime, including coaching a three-year old in how to transition from a full-containment swing to a strap fastened to chains.

Last night, I watched and loved this:



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[alexd]

My comment was pure substance-free rhetoric, a notch up from gratuitous, drive-by, one-off ish-posting, with no greater purpose than to affirm my sense of marvel at the competitive mutually-exclusive speculations that fuel each off-season and here include the never before possible opportunity to weigh in on a 5-star decommitting.

Some time soon, we'll see where Darius Adams lands. Likely, some back story regarding the why and how will emerge with varying degrees of backup facts. And we'll ultimately learn who fills out the UConn roster, and later how well they play in the context of next year's schedule. We'll also see how well those who have transferred, decommitted, or are the result of other schools 'outrecruiting' UConn play. Certain aspects of the drama differ each year, but this is how it always plays out.

I unambiguously admit that I can't keep up, and do not mind that I can't.

I'm fussy & cranky regarding the wide variety in the signal-to-noise ratios of the competing voices; busy with multiple interests elsewhere; still delighted by fun videos related to the WBB Natty; and spending more time outside in the milder temperatures that accompany springtime, including coaching a three-year old in how to transition from a full-containment swing to a strap fastened to chains.

Last night, I watched and loved this:



350 posts and counting...keep agoin'

Thanks. I know what I'm doing tonight.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

My comment was pure substance-free rhetoric, a notch up from gratuitous, drive-by, one-off ish-posting, with no greater purpose than to affirm my sense of marvel at the competitive mutually-exclusive speculations that fuel each off-season and here include the never before possible opportunity to weigh in on a 5-star decommitting.

Some time soon, we'll see where Darius Adams lands. Likely, some back story regarding the why and how will emerge with varying degrees of backup facts. And we'll ultimately learn who fills out the UConn roster, and later how well they play in the context of next year's schedule. We'll also see how well those who have transferred, decommitted, or are the result of other schools 'outrecruiting' UConn play. Certain aspects of the drama differ each year, but this is how it always plays out.

I unambiguously admit that I can't keep up, and do not mind that I can't.

I'm fussy & cranky regarding the wide variety in the signal-to-noise ratios of the competing voices; busy with multiple interests elsewhere; still delighted by fun videos related to the WBB Natty; and spending more time outside in the milder temperatures that accompany springtime, including coaching a three-year old in how to transition from a full-containment swing to a strap fastened to chains.

Last night, I watched and loved this:



350 posts and counting...keep agoin'