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CardiacAndre7 said:
It’s been 1 week. Are we being serious right now?
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It doesn't matter if it's 1 week the Giants don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions have earned that right not the Giants.

You moved on from Jones definetly the right decision, now where's the improvement on the offense? We're in year 4 here with Daboll and Schoen. We'll see what happens Thursday.
 
Scoe said:
It doesn't matter if it's 1 week the Giants don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions have earned that right not the Giants.

You moved on from Jones definetly the right decision, now where's the improvement on the offense? We're in year 4 here with Daboll and Schoen. We'll see what happens Thursday.
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I didn’t say there was improvement on offense, I said Jones still sucks
 
Deepster said:
One thing is for sure. Jones solidified the fact that Anthony Richardson is an afterthought on the Colts and, barring injury, might never see the field in their uniform again.
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I think Anthony is talented and under the right tutledge I think he can flourish.i would trade a late pick for him.
 
Scoe said:
In the ridiculously early nfl start to the season. Hey maybe Daniel Jones wasn't “the problem” but maybe it’s the Giants organization. Was it the right move to move on from Jones yes. It’s not his fault the Mara’s tried to convince the fanbase that he’s the next Eli. Was he supposed to turn down a 160 million dollar contract?

Has always been a likeable guy never threw a teammate under the bus. He actually did win get the only playoff win for the Giants since 2011, and yes he literally won that game himself pretty much, against a 13 win Vikings team on the road. Yes the Giants needed to move on but fans saying he’s the worst Giants qb ever, umm hello Dave Brown, Danny Kannell, Kent Graham.

I see Giants fans are so pissed to see the Giants still be the Giants ok understood, but to see Jones have success too why lol. It makes the Giants organization look bad it’s not a reflection on you personally. I really don’t get too emotionaly connected to professional sports anymore, fans are toxic not to say college fans can’t be toxic and UConn fans aren’t exempt from it either. I’m still beyond pissed losing to Cuse.

So who’s better Daniel Jones now or a 37 year old Russell Wilson, again not questioning the decision it is really about Jackson Dart moving forward as Russ is a stop gap qb. Not a good day for the Giants moving on from Jones and putting up 6 pts while Jones looks like an mvp. I get it’s really about future moving forward.
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Decent trolling but if you meant any of what you wrote, oof man.

It's difficult to overstate how badly the Dolphins' secondary played Sunday....

That's the story of the Colts-Dolphins game: a woefully undermanned secondary running into a deep pass-catching corps with a strong schemer at head coach. I cannot generate any meaningful takeaways about the starting quarterback, good or bad. Jones had a classic point guard game. He threw well to his first read when open, including a beautiful deep out-breaker to Adonai Mitchell with anticipation, but didn't do much damage through his progressions. He was fine as a scrambler, as always.

www.espn.com

Ranking QB debuts of NFL Week 1: Aaron Rodgers, Daniel Jones

Can Justin Fields and Aaron Rodgers sustain their great Week 1 play? Ben Solak stacks the top QB newcomers -- and begs the Giants to hold off on Jaxson Dart.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

That's the thing about Jones: if there's no Plan A, he skips Plans B, C and D and proceeds directly to Plan E: run. No progressions.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
I didn’t say there was improvement on offense, I said Jones still sucks
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I didn't say that you said that I just brought that up brought up (where's the improvement in the offense), because the time to show the improvement in the offense is now. Jones sucks and he's not here , now what, you moved on now. So now it's time to put up or shut up in year 4.
 
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TMB4405 said:
I know the line sucks but who can say they will improve it.
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Reason #1 why I personally think it would be a mistake to play Dart right now. Remember David Carr on Houston? Getting sacked 5-6 times/game for two seasons straight (and hit even more often) completely derailed his career.

Don't discount the effect Washington's Defense had on Russ-Wil. The Giants were more or less one-dimensional. Washington's defense is drastically improved from a year ago and as I said yesterday, the D-Line has been totally revamped and there is a star in the making in the Secondary. Green Bay's O-line is head and shoulders above the Giants', but this Thursday's game in Green Bay will be telling in terms of a benchmark for Washington's D.
 
B1GEast said:
I think Anthony is talented and under the right tutledge I think he can flourish.i would trade a late pick for him.
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What are you basing that on? He hasn't had a single minute on the field to show that and has looked all the part of a complete bust since leaving college.
 
nomar said:
Decent trolling but if you meant any of what you wrote, oof man.

It's difficult to overstate how badly the Dolphins' secondary played Sunday....

That's the story of the Colts-Dolphins game: a woefully undermanned secondary running into a deep pass-catching corps with a strong schemer at head coach. I cannot generate any meaningful takeaways about the starting quarterback, good or bad. Jones had a classic point guard game. He threw well to his first read when open, including a beautiful deep out-breaker to Adonai Mitchell with anticipation, but didn't do much damage through his progressions. He was fine as a scrambler, as always.

www.espn.com

Ranking QB debuts of NFL Week 1: Aaron Rodgers, Daniel Jones

Can Justin Fields and Aaron Rodgers sustain their great Week 1 play? Ben Solak stacks the top QB newcomers -- and begs the Giants to hold off on Jaxson Dart.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

That's the thing about Jones: if there's no Plan A, he skips Plans B, C and D and proceeds directly to Plan E: run. No progressions.
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Trolling a bit but have I said anything that is wrong here? All I did was point out facts that Jones put up 33 pts, and the Giants put up 6. Yes I know the Dolphins are trash and yes Washington is a much better team and I get it's week 1.

I'm just pointing out how bad the Giants are. They suck until they prove that they don't. Daniel Jones was a problem but the Giants are the problem.

Honestly could care less about Jones failing or succeeding, I just care about the Giants being good again.
 
Washington is a good team. Nobody is expecting the Giants to be great this year; we're looking for improvement on both sides of the ball and hoping to get Dart some reps and that he'll be ready next season.

Jones had no future with the Giants and any Giants fan who regrets dropping Jones doesnt know much about football. I don't think you think that, you're just stirring the pot.

If you wanted to say Jones wasn't the only problem and the Giants didn't magically get better by dropping him, so stipulated.
 
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RuffRuff said:
It was one game and the Dolphins, who are slowly decaying into one of the worst teams in the NFL under McDaniel. Let's pump the brakes on this one.
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Let's step on the gas a little bit now the Broncos are better, it's only week 2 and it's not just the Dolphins, now when is the last time the Giants were 2-0 I can't even remember.
 
navery12 said:
Giants QB play was pretty good today. Just saying
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Then what happened Russ choked because that's what bad franchises do they choke. You are what your record says you are.
 
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Scoe said:
Then what happened Russ choked because that's what bad franchises do they choke. You are what your record says you are.
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Yup, something Daniel Jones never did. Known as a guy who avoided bad turnovers
 
navery12 said:
Yup, something Daniel Jones never did. Known as a guy who avoided bad turnovers
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And where are those turnovers with the Colts so what does that tell you about the Giants. Giants get good qb play and they still choke. Since 2022 the Colts have improved while Giants have declined.
 
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Scoe said:
And where are those turnovers with the Colts so what does that tell you about the Giants.
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It tells me the Giants still suck, something that was obvious when Daniel Jones was here and was obvious when they decided to move on from him. Daniel Jones also sucks, something that was obvious as a Giant and hasn't changed now
 
I didn't even know this stat that the Colts are the first team in the Super Bowl era to not punt in the first 2 games.
 
navery12 said:
It tells me the Giants still suck, something that was obvious when Daniel Jones was here and was obvious when they decided to move on from him. Daniel Jones also sucks, something that was obvious as a Giant and hasn't changed now
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Right now Jones hasn't sucked, can you at least admit he is way more confident in a different environment. The fact Russell Wilson had a great game and Giants still lost tells ya all you need to know about the Giants.
 
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Scoe said:
Right now Jones hasn't sucked, can you at least admit he is way more confident in a different environment. The fact Russell Wilson had a great game and Giants still lost tells ya all you need to know about the Giants.
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Offensive line looked great besides that pocket of hysteria from Hudson. Jones would’ve had a worse game than Wilson in the same situation, because Jones can’t throw a deep ball accurately.
 
Well I was joking but right now this ain't no joke right now Jones is an mvp candidate. I stand corrected btw, Dart is legit the line is better and the Giants still suck look at their coaching and front office.
 
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Scoe said:
Well I was joking but right this ain't no joke right now Jones is an mvp candidate. I stand corrected btw, Dart is legit the line is better and the Giants still suck look at their coaching and front office.
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Guys that come do a victory lap after a loss like that are pretty sad. Kudos my man.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Guys that come do a victory lap after a loss like that are pretty sad. Kudos my man.
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We should all be excited, Daboll is dunzo and Jones success is more evidence at just how much Daboll sucks.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Guys that come do a victory lap after a loss like that are pretty sad. Kudos my man.
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Trust me I want the Giants to win more than you do. Now show me where I'm wrong here I'll wait. I'm sorry that the facts here show that I'm right the Giants dont deserve my respect btw.
 
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