OT: Daniel Jones MVP

[jibsey]

I am an annoyed Giants fan. Been a long run of total crap. I always liked Jones and know he was not an above average QB but Giants did him no favors. Hope he plays well for Colts.

What I dont get is why not just play Dart now. Every other team does it. I know the line sucks but who can say they will improve it. They are going no where wit Wilson and at least Dart can get some experience and its not difficult to determine if you have something or not. And if they are going to "ruin" him he probably does not have that something anyway. Lets at least make the season interesting. Yesterday was just atrocious and uninteresting. Sick of being out of playoff race by October 10th but if we are lets take a look at future. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle and salvage the season.

I understand your(my) frustration and would like to see Dart out there but… should he be exposed to the massive hits and body damage that will surely follow? Daniel Jones was absolutely hammered during his Giants career and frankly did well often enough even with that lack of protection.
Dart being young just wants to be out there and doesn’t care about that risk understandably but the size and strength of these defenders in today’s game is different IMO.
There was a reason Tom Brady was as great and successful as he was besides his throwing accuracy and it was that wall that allowed him to stand in the pocket, have a cup of coffee and survey his targets…at leisure. When he was pressured even he had problems but Belichek knew what was important and got him protected.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

I understand your(my) frustration and would like to see Dart out there but… should he be exposed to the massive hits and body damage that will surely follow? Daniel Jones was absolutely hammered during his Giants career and frankly did well often enough even with that lack of protection.
Dart being young just wants to be out there and doesn’t care about that risk understandably but the size and strength of these defenders in today’s game is different IMO.
There was a reason Tom Brady was as great and successful as he was besides his throwing accuracy and it was that wall that allowed him to stand in the pocket, have a cup of coffee and survey his targets…at leisure. When he was pressured even he had problems but Belichek knew what was important and got him protected.

Nah, he was pretty awful. This revisionist history is hilarious.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I am an annoyed Giants fan. Been a long run of total crap. I always liked Jones and know he was not an above average QB but Giants did him no favors. Hope he plays well for Colts.

What I dont get is why not just play Dart now. Every other team does it. I know the line sucks but who can say they will improve it. They are going no where wit Wilson and at least Dart can get some experience and its not difficult to determine if you have something or not. And if they are going to "ruin" him he probably does not have that something anyway. Lets at least make the season interesting. Yesterday was just atrocious and uninteresting. Sick of being out of playoff race by October 10th but if we are lets take a look at future. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle and salvage the season.

My sense is that 2025 Daniel Jones was created by playing behind that line. Putting Dart in there might just do the same or worse he gets badly injured. I can’t understand why the Giants can’t draft o linemen

 

[jibsey]

Nah, he was pretty awful. This revisionist history is hilarious.

The best quarterbacks who are under a lot of pressure don’t look so good and Jones was hammered, sacked and rushed on his passes basically his whole career. We will see if he gets that protection and what happens now. Whoever the Giants put back there will have the same problem but the other aspect is the effect having a crappy running game due to that O line and the effect on the Giant’s passing game and that has also been forever,

 

[Edward Sargent]

I understand your(my) frustration and would like to see Dart out there but… should he be exposed to the massive hits and body damage that will surely follow? Daniel Jones was absolutely hammered during his Giants career and frankly did well often enough even with that lack of protection.
Dart being young just wants to be out there and doesn’t care about that risk understandably but the size and strength of these defenders in today’s game is different IMO.
There was a reason Tom Brady was as great and successful as he was besides his throwing accuracy and it was that wall that allowed him to stand in the pocket, have a cup of coffee and survey his targets…at leisure. When he was pressured even he had problems but Belichek knew what was important and got him protected.

It was well known that you had to get a few hits on Brady early and keep pressure up even if you didn’t get sacks

 

[Scoe]

Nah, he was pretty awful. This revisionist history is hilarious.

So what does it tell ya that Jones looked good and the Giants couldn't get a TD.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

So what does it tell ya that Jones looked good and the Giants couldn't get a TD.

It’s been 1 week. Are we being serious right now?

 

[Scoe]

It’s been 1 week. Are we being serious right now?

It doesn't matter if it's 1 week the Giants don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions have earned that right not the Giants.

You moved on from Jones definetly the right decision, now where's the improvement on the offense? We're in year 4 here with Daboll and Schoen. We'll see what happens Thursday.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

It doesn't matter if it's 1 week the Giants don't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The Chiefs, Ravens, and Lions have earned that right not the Giants.

You moved on from Jones definetly the right decision, now where's the improvement on the offense? We're in year 4 here with Daboll and Schoen. We'll see what happens Thursday.

I didn’t say there was improvement on offense, I said Jones still sucks