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mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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There's no point in even debating with you. RU is a dumpster fire. The only reason you're in the B10 is because of cable boxes and your AAU affiliation. Literally nothing to do with athletics. Not saying you don't have a good school but there's no point in comparing our athletic programs. We are a top-rate atheltic program, you're a dumpster fire with a geographical advantage. Awesome job.
 
mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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Congratulations on your two successful seasons in 147 years of existence. Even the Chicago Cubs have a better winning percentage.
 
Drew said:
this is sorta OT but wasn't UNM considered for the XII in the 90's?
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No. The Big 12 was a merger between the Southwest Conference and the Big 8 conference in 1994. Conference play started in 1996. UNM was never a part of that deal. And if it were, I would be in total shock.
 
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mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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I don't recall Rutgers being invited to the Big Ten because of its "phenomenal" football. Rutgers is AAU and the Big Ten was interested in reaching out to the northeast market. That is how most people I know look at it. Sorry, but that is how it is. Honest.
 
UT4Big12 said:
I don't recall Rutgers being invited to the Big Ten because of its "phenomenal" football. Rutgers is AAU and the Big Ten was interested in reaching out to the northeast market. That is how most people I know look at it. Sorry, but that is how it is.
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This is the accurate way of looking at it, unfortunately, instead of being proud of their academics and acknowledging their DMA made them an attractive candidate, Rutgers fans insist on creating some alternative history where their football program wasn't absolute clown shoes for the entire 20th century and most of the 21st.
 
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Dooley said:
Uh oh guys, we have fallen from 1st to 4th place. Looks like our AAC sentence will be permanent. :(
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Isn't it great we don't have to rely on a stupid poll for such an important issue to the Big 12? People bring their biases into the voting. Nothing scientific about it.
 
NYUConn said:
This is the accurate way of looking at it, unfortunately, instead of being proud of their academics and acknowledging their DMA made them an attractive candidate, Rutgers fans insist on creating some alternative history where their football program wasn't absolute clown shoes for the entire 20th century and most of the 21st.
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Well, from what I remember, the Big Ten really wanted Maryland (which was already stirring things up in the ACC). Of course, you can't add just one school, so naturally the Big Ten needed to add another. Rutgers fit the bill in terms of its academics and its location. Certainly not because of its extraordinary ability on the field. Of course, now the Big Ten can brag that it has the school where college football was started.
 
UT4Big12 said:
Well, from what I remember, the Big Ten really wanted Maryland (which was already stirring things up in the ACC). Of course, you can't add just one school, so naturally the Big Ten needed to add another. Rutgers fit the bill in terms of its academics and its location. Certainly not because of its extraordinary ability on the field.
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Yes. I don't begrudge them, because it's a fine, flagship university in a big state population wise. Their athletic department is a complete failure, but that doesn't mean it always will be. If somebody invites Memphis I may have a seizure. Boise State isn't far behind as a school that simply isn't in the P5 category "as a university". Louisville was lucky as hell that it is the anti-Rutgers, and the ACC was desperate to boost their football strength of schedule so FSU/Clemson wouldn't be the odd man out every year. Strong athletics across many sports, but a piss poor university.
 
mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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LOL everyone everywhere thinks UCONN is better than Rutgers. In fact everyone thinks that EVERYBODY is better than Rutgers at everything except losing and embarrassing scandals.
 
Don't mind the RU fan...as a lot, their fans are desperately trying to change the narrative that they were added to the B1G for any reason other than for its cable boxes and AAU. Cable Box U.
 
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UConnTrumbull said:
There's no point in even debating with you. RU is a dumpster fire. The only reason you're in the B10 is because of cable boxes and your AAU affiliation. Literally nothing to do with athletics. Not saying you don't have a good school but there's no point in comparing our athletic programs. We are a top-rate atheltic program, you're a dumpster fire with a geographical advantage. Awesome job.
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This is it in a nut shell. On the basis of university profile, academic standing, and geography Rutgers was a great add to The B1G. If their fans simply accepted that this is why they are in the conference, as opposed to anything that they have achieved in athletics, they would get a hell of a lot less s*** on these type of boards.

In the mean time with their increased resources they could modernize facilities, attract better coaches, and improve recruiting. After a few years they might have something to actually crow about. Instead they continue to sell the dream that their awesome football team got them on The B1G's Radar. SMDH.
 
UT4Big12 said:
Thank you for the information. I appreciate the education lesson.
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Also, not sure if it has been mentioned, when our stadium was built and opened in 2003, the footings are in place for a 10,000 seat boost plus we have other areas where we have put stands- so our capacity can go from 40,000 to over 50,000 quite easily - say 52,500.
 
mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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Oh so you have half the championships in triple the time?

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hardcorehusky said:
Also, not sure if it has been mentioned, when our stadium was built and opened in 2003, the footings are in place for a 10,000 seat boost plus we have other areas where we have put stands- so our capacity can go from 40,000 to over 50,000 quite easily - say 52,500.
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I could see expansion of the stadium becoming a reality should UConn become a Big 12 member.
 
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Ldandy said:
LOL everyone everywhere thinks UCONN is better than Rutgers. In fact everyone thinks that EVERYBODY is better than Rutgers at everything except losing and embarrassing scandals.
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How did this end up in the Dallas News discussion about who the Big XII is looking at? No one is looking at Rutgers. The Big Ten has their New Jersey cable boxes, and Rutgers has fulfilled their role. No one is noticing last place in the Big Ten in 90% of their participation. Same was true in the Big East.
 
btstimpy said:
How did this end up in the Dallas News discussion about who the Big XII is looking at? No one is looking at Rutgers. The Big Ten has their New Jersey cable boxes, and Rutgers has fulfilled their role. No one is noticing last place in the Big Ten in 90% of their participation. Same was true in the Big East.
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Dude, didn't you hijack a thread last week to fight with a Maryland fan for like 4 pages and 200 posts?
 
UT4Big12 said:
I could see expansion of the stadium becoming a reality should UConn become a Big 12 member.
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They will have to. If there is a need to make the stadium bigger beyond the pre-planned expansion they can always shrink down the size of the bench seat to get to 60,000
 
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mainlinedave said:
Actually, UCONN has played much worse than Rutgers. You have two Big East Championships. We have one. Big deal.

UCONN is one of the few schools that has lost more games in its history then it has won. Traditionally, you are one of the least successful teams in college football. RU has at least won more games than they have lost...and we've played a lot more games than UCONN has.

How do you possibly say we have played it worse? We have been to more bowl games, have more bowl wins...have a better head to head record, and while both teams were in the same league, RU won more league games than UCONN. RU has finished in the top half of league standings more often, and RU has been ranked in the top 20 a lot more also.

RU has has been ranked in the top 10 during two separate seasons while in the same league. UCONN? NEVER!

Nice try, but no one outside the state of Connecticut thinks UCONN has played better than RU. No one.
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Outside of Connecticut everyone thinks of Rutgers as the punchline of college athletics who amazingly squanders a huge geographic advantage with mismanagement and ineptitude. Come to think of it, everyone in Connecticut views them that way as well.
 
btstimpy said:
How did this end up in the Dallas News discussion about who the Big XII is looking at? No one is looking at Rutgers. The Big Ten has their New Jersey cable boxes, and Rutgers has fulfilled their role. No one is noticing last place in the Big Ten in 90% of their participation. Same was true in the Big East.
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Where I disagree with your statement is the part where you say "no one is looking at Rutgers." I think plenty of people are observing schools like Rutgers and BC flail around painfully and because of it are unfairly attaching some of that stench to a solid achiever like UCONN. I wouldn't want a perspective decision maker for conference realignment painting my school with a broad brush of being a Northeastern Athletic train wreck like those two.
 
Ldandy said:
Where I disagree with your statement is the part where you say "no one is looking at Rutgers." I think plenty of people are observing schools like Rutgers and BC flail around painfully and because of it are unfairly attaching some of that stench to a solid achiever like UCONN. I wouldn't want a perspective decision maker for conference realignment painting my school with a broad brush of being a Northeastern Athletic train wreck like those two.
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UT4Big12 said:
I could see expansion of the stadium becoming a reality should UConn become a Big 12 member.
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Sorry did not know what post to reference. UConn football:

We beat ND at their stadium
We embarrassed/dominated the "old ball coach" in a southern stadium Bowl game
We have knocked off UL in one of their prime seasons.
We knocked off UCF is their only prime season.
We made a huge impression on RG3 during his brilliant college career.
We have put many players into the League.

I'm sure other posters have additions to add.

Yes UConn needs a bit better fb fan support, but when we play name schools the fans show up. We still need to demonstrate a bit better fan support for football, but that is kind of a function of opponents and conference.

Do I think UConn would be a huge (and I say HUGE) add to any P5 conference the answer is resoundingly YES.

Give us 2 years after an invite, an annual game against BCU, maybe a game at Giant stadium/Foxboro game against the top blue bloods, and UConn will have the base to DOMINATE the NE area and be in the upper half of any FB conference.
 
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