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-Fairfield's line looked damn good the second time I watched the game, really have Xavier trouble. Hell of a game for berry. I think he's a Mac level player, he doesn't have the most incredible initial burst but has great top end speed , looked him up and says he runs a 10.9 100m FAT as a junior, which is blazing. Newsome is quicker berry is faster.
-Xavier isn't as deep as last year, but really good all around, Boyle is a pro, Fairfield has some playmakers but came up short against a beast
 


Also if you want a better look at Boyle watch this highlight from a few games back

See more talent on xavier at wideout, and get a better appreciation of berry's speed, kids have angles on him and close in, then hes gone
 
I need to make a visit to this thread part of my daily routine. I usually get my recruiting fix by reading the posts from HFD that obviously don't filter into here.

Lots of quality input here by Kris1 and DGunz.

Thank you both.
 
High School Polls for 10-2-12

N.H. Register Writers Poll:
1. Xavier 2. Staples 3. Hand 4. Ansonia 5.Windsor 6. Greenwich 7. Masuk 8. West Haven 9. Glastonbury 10. Berlin Dropped out: Ledyard, Darien
Others receiving votes: New London, southington, Newtown, North Branford, Hillhouse, Middletown, St. Joseph, Manchester, Darien, Ledyard & Norwich Free Academy, Cromwell, Farmington, Trinity Catholic & Wolcott, North Haven, Fairfield Prep & New Canaan.
Register Offensive Players of the Week: Hillhouse Jr. RB Harold Cooper, Notre Dame-WH Sr. RB Cameron Tucker, Windsor Sr. QB Quinn Fleeting, Ansonia Sr. RB/WR Andrew Matos.
Register Defensive Players of the Week: Cheney Tech Sr. CB Andre Rose, Glastonbury Sr. LB Nick Karp, Shelton Jr. LB Christian Federici, Valley Regional/Old Lyme So. LB Justin Cheverier.
Register Special Teams Players of the Week: Newtown Sr. Dan Hebert, Shelton Sr. Ed Groth, Torrington So. P.J. Kilmartin, west Haven Sr. Eddy Williams
Register Teams of the Week: Nonnewaug, Sacred Heart, Trumbull, Windham
Register Game of the Week: Masuk at Bunnell Friday at 7 P.M.

Hartford Courant State Top 10:
1. Xavier 2. Hand 3. Staples 4. Ansonia 5. Windsor 6. Greenwich 7. Berlin 8. Glastonbury 9. West Haven 10. Masuk
Courant Area Top 10:
1 Xavier 2. Hand 3. Windsor 4. Berlin 5. Glastonbury 6. Farmington 7. Hartford Public 8. Manchester 9. Middletown 10. Southington
 
Here is some perspective on the Berry kid at Xavier...Ran a 4.38 and 4.39 at two camps this summer... He benches between 275-300 and squats 500 pounds...he is the 2X defending SCC 100 meters champ and is the defending SCC 200 meters champ...He has missed football for almost two years battling injuries, so in a sense he is relearning to play the position. He has grown from 171 to 184 pounds of mostly muscle...I am not sure who the best backs in the state are but I doubt that they would be able to run against North Haven, Fairfield Prep and we will see against Hand...I went to school with Dee Berry, if you judge him on the Fairfield game, you have to consider the field was wet and slippery and he still ran by guys.
 
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Ftblhound said:
Lol, 4.38 and 4.39 are basically 4.40...I am sure he ran about 50 times this summer and only broke a sub 4.4 twice...
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Yeah, I'm sure he's plenty fast. But these times would've put him in the top 10 at the NFL Combine and would've been by far the fastest RB there. More likely he's probably between a 4.5 and a 4.6, which is still very fast at the HS level.
 
whatever his time is, we are still looking for a RB in this class. Sounds like a hard-working late bloomer.
 
Ftblhound said:
Here is some perspective on the Berry kid at Xavier...Ran a 4.38 and 4.39 at two camps this summer... He benches between 275-300 and squats 500 pounds...he is the 2X defending SCC 100 meters champ and is the defending SCC 200 meters champ...He has missed football for almost two years battling injuries, so in a sense he is relearning to play the position. He has grown from 171 to 184 pounds of mostly muscle...I am not sure who the best backs in the state are but I doubt that they would be able to run against North Haven, Fairfield Prep and we will see against Hand...I went to school with Dee Berry, if you judge him on the Fairfield game, you have to consider the field was wet and slippery and he still ran by guys.
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No one is judging him on one game (I've seen him play a number of times). Nor, is anyone questioning his straight line speed. He's fast. He works out. Track champion. That's all great stuff. Unfortunately, straight line speed and how much he lifts, doesn't convert to the football field very often. It helps, but football players very rarely run from point A to B and I've never seen one stop to max out on bench press during a game. He's a very good HS RB, but I've yet to see him put a foot in the ground and change direction. D1 backs can do that. He consistently, and at the HS level successfully, tries to outrun defenders to the edge. That won't happen at the next level. He will either have to change direction to make people miss, or plant his foot in the ground and get up field. He hasn't shown he can do that. It's not a knock on him, he is what he is....a very good player. Is he the fastest RB in CT? I guess. But, is he the best RB in the state, probably not. Is he a D1 RB? In my opinion...no.

Did you just use North Haven and Prep as examples of strong defensive teams? In the same breath as Hand? C'mon man!!
 
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kris1 said:
No one is judging him on one game (I've seen him play a number of times). Nor, is anyone questioning his straight line speed. He's fast. He works out. Track champion. That's all great stuff. Unfortunately, straight line speed and how much he lifts, doesn't convert to the football field very often. It helps, but football players very rarely run from point A to B and I've never seen one stop to max out on bench press during a game. He's a very good HS RB, but I've yet to see him put a foot in the ground and change direction. D1 backs can do that. He consistently, and at the HS level successfully, tries to outrun defenders to the edge. That won't happen at the next level. He will either have to change direction to make people miss, or plant his foot in the ground and get up field. He hasn't shown he can do that. It's not a knock on him, he is what he is....a very good player. Is he the fastest RB in CT? I guess. But, is he the best RB in the state, probably not. Is he a D1 RB? In my opinion...no.

Did you just use North Haven and Prep as examples of strong defensive teams? In the same breath as Hand? C'mon man!!
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I agree with some of what you said...I don't think hes a uconn-level back but theres a place for people with his speed, maurice jones drew isnt that shifty, but his explosiveness , low center of gravity and speed make him good...kid is not drew, but drew is in the nfl, so berry could play at a non-bcs school imo. keep in mind though that those teams are much better than alot of the teams in the other lesser conferences in the state. Hands defense really isnt that astounding, if hillhouse ran on them that effectively x will have a field day, and the game will not be that close.

Either way I think we should be looking 100 % out of state for a 2013 back, the ones here aren't the direction we should go in even though i like cooper
 
DGunz said:
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I agree with some of what you said...I don't think hes a uconn-level back but theres a place for people with his speed, maurice jones drew isnt that shifty, but his explosiveness , low center of gravity and speed make him good...kid is not drew, but drew is in the nfl, so berry could play at a non-bcs school imo. keep in mind though that those teams are much better than alot of the teams in the other lesser conferences in the state. Hands defense really isnt that astounding, if hillhouse ran on them that effectively x will have a field day, and the game will not be that close.

Either way I think we should be looking 100 % out of state for a 2013 back, the ones here aren't the direction we should go in even though i like cooper
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yea i dont think i see a 2013 rb in the state thats uconn level. i see plenty of 2014 ones tho.
 
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Outlow and Ervin phillips are both backs with good size and speed and change of direction, cooper could be great 3rd down back and is already a bcs prospect (BC offered), newsome could be a nice addition
 
DGunz said:
I agree with some of what you said...I don't think hes a uconn-level back but theres a place for people with his speed, maurice jones drew isnt that shifty, but his explosiveness , low center of gravity and speed make him good...kid is not drew, but drew is in the nfl, so berry could play at a non-bcs school imo. keep in mind though that those teams are much better than alot of the teams in the other lesser conferences in the state. Hands defense really isnt that astounding, if hillhouse ran on them that effectively x will have a field day, and the game will not be that close.

Either way I think we should be looking 100 % out of state for a 2013 back, the ones here aren't the direction we should go in even though i like cooper
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Totally agree there is a place for Berry somewhere. I understand the Jones-Drew comparison, but he ran between the tackles and welcomed contact. Berry won't lower his shoulder and take on a defender. He will try to outrun them.
<a href="http://www.maxpreps.com/video/watch.aspx#!videoid=b92a539c-aa05-0c23-a40a-7216b3cf4b6c" >View Video from MaxPreps.com</a>

Cooper is 2014.
 
Honestly you've probably seen more of him than I have haha...well the lowering shoulder thing though, if you could just outrun the defenders like he is always capable of , why lower the shoulder? also most times I've seen him he prefers vertical, instead of horizontal. Most of the time in the nd game he ran up field and off tackle and broke several tackles, It remains to be seen if he would lower his should, I'll say that. Very good insight Kris1 enjoy your posts.


yeah cooper is 2014 , hes also very fast, he has great agility to go along with that...have we offered him yet ?
 
Boy, I'd love to see us running pass plays with McCombs leaving the backfield to run down the sidelines like Jones-Drew does in that video. Would need a bit better protection for it to happen.
 
Tom Yantz of the Hartford Courant today did a feature article on Cromwell Sr. RB Derrick Villard Jr. 6'1" 205 lbs. Question: If he's so well thought of, why is he only getting interest from CAA & Division II schools? Is he big & slow? The article has this direct quote from Villard: "Some people around here said if I had gone to Xavier, I would have gotten a lot more attention & college looks...I've grown up and lived in Cromwell just about my whole life. I'm loyal to the Panthers."
 
Hes the perfect milford type. 1 fall semester of bs class just to rack up yards at rb prep u and then land a good offer.
 
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coachcap said:
Tom Yantz of the Hartford Courant today did a feature article on Cromwell Sr. RB Derrick Villard Jr. 6'1" 205 lbs. Question: If he's so well thought of, why is he only getting interest from CAA & Division II schools? Is he big & slow? The article has this direct quote from Villard: "Some people around here said if I had gone to Xavier, I would have gotten a lot more attention & college looks...I've grown up and lived in Cromwell just about my whole life. I'm loyal to the Panthers."
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Don't know about him academically, but he has the physical tools. I like the kids game. He put up tremendous numbers (2125 yards, 27 TDs) last season in a passing offense. His QB, Anthony Morales, threw for 3688 yards and 43 TDs. His speed could be the issue. He doesn't look fast on film, but I like his size and strength. He also catches the ball very well, he could grow into a big back or and H-back type. Don't know if he's a D1 kid, but he can play.
 
for the record, even with all the news today i still have NC over BM 2night :D
 
Arkeel Newsome, carried 24 times for 164 yards and 2TDs, in Ansonia's 35-7 victory over Holy Cross.

Holy Cross held Ansonia to just 282 yards of total offense. Newsome, playing with an injured ankle, ripped off a 32 yard run on his first carry. He was Ansonia's only offensive option. Holy Cross did an outstanding job keep Ansonia's playmakers in front of them. Ansonia QB, Jai'Quan McKnight was just 1/6 for 13 yards on the night. That one reception went to Andrew Matos. Matos also had 4 carries for 29 yards and a TD. As well as Holy Cross played on defense, Ansonia was better. After starting QB, Christian Hamerling, threw an 18 yard pick six on HC's opening drive, to Ansonia's Raeshaun Finney. Holy Cross went to the "Wildcat" with super-sophomore Isaiah Wright and saw limited success in the first half. With Ansonia leading 14-0, HC was able to cut the lead in half. Following a botched Ansonia punt return, Wright took it in from 1 yard out. It was the first TD Ansonia's varsity has given up this season. Ansonia lead 21-7 at the half, on Matos' 4 yard burst. HC's saw the limited success it had offensively, dissipate in the second half. Ansonia held the Crusaders to 12 yards of offense the rest of the way. Newsome scored from 4 yards out, one play into the 4Q to give Ansonia a 28-7 lead. Jai'Quan McKnight added Ansonia's second pick six. On HC's next series, he took an Isaiah Wright pass 28 yards untouched to the endzone for the games final score.
 
Watched film on Villard...he's very good has really good size but not fast enough to be an HB in the BCS imo so he's gettimg about the level of recruitment I'd expect...but that being said if he worked out a lot he could definitely fill up a roster spot with his athleticism.
Also Fairfield Prep DESTROYED Shelton, who I honestly thought was solid...they are probably the most underrated team in the state, played X as closely as anyone over the last few years...
Ansonia will never miss a beat, but it will be interesting to see how Newsome plays with an injured ankle because a mild sprain can take away your speed, which could be why he is averaged about 7 ypg
Some real showdowns this week with Hand Vs. Xavier, Cheshire Vs. Prep and a few others. I might make one of them
 
Maybe someone here can tell me if Hamden is any good this year or not but DeAngelo Berry from Xavier rushed for 207 yards and 5td's last night on only 17 carries. Pretty solid stats.
 
UC Pride said:
Maybe someone here can tell me if Hamden is any good this year or not but DeAngelo Berry from Xavier rushed for 207 yards and 5td's last night on only 17 carries. Pretty solid stats.
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Not good... Few skill players.Wasn't that close. Hamden did drop two passes that could have been big gainers/TD. Hamden QB broke off a big run for score.
 
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huskymedic said:
Not good... Few skill players.Wasn't that close. Hamden did drop two passes that could have been big gainers/TD. Hamden QB broke off a big run for score.
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Any observations from the game ? How'd X look?
 
DGunz said:
Any observations from the game ? How'd X look?
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To be frank - Boyle looked strong, Berry looked strong. Xavier looked strong - game became a blow-out and I didn't pay that close of attention. I think X could have named the score if not for the Cochran Rule.

No. 1 Xavier 49, Hamden 6: D’Angelo Berry rushed for 207 yards and five touchdowns to lead the Falcons to the SCC Division I West victory at Hamden.

Tim Boyle threw for 119 yards and a TD and Kris Luster caught three passes for 86 yards for Xavier (4-0). Eli Bonadies had a 48-yard scoring run for Hamden (1-3)
 
High School Football Polls for 10-9-12

N.H. Register Writers Poll
1.Xavier 2.Staples 3.Hand 4.Ansonia 5.Windsor 6.Greenwich 7.Masuk 8.West Haven 9.Glastonbury 10.Berlin
Others receiving Votes: Southington, Newtown, North Branford, Middletown, Hillhouse, St. Joseph, Norwich Free Academy, North Haven, Fairfield Prep, Trinity Catholic, Farmington, New Canaan, Wolcott, New London, Darien & Hyde

Register Offensive Players of the Week: Hamden Hall Jr. WR Mike Breuler, Haddam-Killingworth Sr. RB Nate Cruz, Hopkins Jr. RB Jim Martino, North Haven Sr. RB Jalon White
Register Defensive Players of the Week: Cheshire So. DB Jack Cunningham, Hillhouse Sr. DB Andre Anderson, Oxford Jr. DB Chris Van Kamerik
Register Special Teams Players of the Week: Amity Jr. K Lyle Luth, Coginchaug Jr. KR Jack Granger, Masuk Sr. KR Andy Fredeen, Valley Regional/Old Lyme Sr. K Ricky Harrison
Register Teams of the Week; Fairfield Warde, Hyde, Newtown, Platt Tech
On the Air: Seymour at Ansonia Thursday 6:30 P.M. 960-WELI, 960WELI.com,iheart radio
Hand at Havier, Friday, 7 P.M.: 960-WELI, 960WELI.com, iheart radio
Register Game of the Week: No.3 Hand at No.1 Xavier, Friday, 7 P.M.

Hartford Courant State Top 10: 1.Xavier, 2.Hand, 3.Ansonia, 4.Staple, 5.Windsor, 6.Greenwich, 7.Glastonbury, 8.West Haven, 9.Berlin, 10.Masuk
Courant Area Top 10: 1.Xavier 2.Hand 3.Windsor 4.Glastonbury 5.Berlin 6.Farmington 7.Middletown 8.Southington 9.Hartford Public 10.Bloomfield
 
Would love to make the Hand - Xavier game Friday night... parking is such a nightmare @ Palmer.
 
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