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CTBasketball said:
I’ll give you credit on Ross. We play a lot better with him or Stew in the lineup than the combination of Ball and Mullins.
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Except he was saying Ross had All-American potential and Hurley not letting him play through is the only thing holding him back. He wasn’t the only one who thought Ross could be a valuable wing role player.
 
mauconnfan said:
Please don’t throw Silas in any negative reply with the likes of Solo and Alex that’s unfair. He played hard, played well overall and 2-6 isn’t awful. The other 2 guys, they were dreadful.
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Silas had 17 pts and 9 assists on 4-9 shooting. I'd hardly call that a bad night. Silas was great. My only issue with Silas is how he directs traffic out there - is he? He's the guy that should be finding ways to feed it into Tarris when it's clear it's a mismatch. He's massively talented, not sure where he is as a floor leader/director yet.
 
Mr. French said:
Except he was saying Ross had All-American potential and Hurley not letting him play through is the only thing holding him back. He wasn’t the only one who thought Ross could be a valuable wing role player.
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Why do you have to use this crazy hyperbole about something I never said?

I was one of maybe 3 posters on this board who dared to think that Ross should be a starter. Not just a valuable wing.
 
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RuffRuff said:
He was the 5th best player on two NC teams. AK was not bringing some special ingredient to those teams. He was a role player.
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He was bringing a special ingredient to those teams, he was a great role player who played with a bunch of significantly better players than him and they all left. Somehow that turned into AK being preseason 1st team All-American, on player of the year watch lists, being called one of the greatest UConn players ever...
 
Marat said:
So this was our WTF loss, right ?
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Let's hope....unfortunately next 3 games are against good/ok teams so need to play much better to win any. The "cupcake" games are over.
 
CTBasketball said:
1. Start Ross (I can’t believe I’m saying this) or Stewart (hasn’t earned it). Bring Ball off the bench for a shooting lift. We can’t live with his defense and him/Mullins shooting 30 3’s a game kills any offensive flow. Having a bigger 3 thru 5 makes it harder to finish at the rim. We can’t live with Mullins and Ball’s poor on ball defense against the dribble drive.

2. Reed is gassed at the end of games. Calhoun was right, we need more Reibe not only to benefit Reibe, but to save Reed’s legs.

We played our best basketball with Mullins being out or on a minutes restriction. Make that make sense.
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Yes and yes. More Defense in the starting 5 and more Reibe getting run. Sure he needs to develop but this offense runs better with him in it
 
Play the hot hand and tonight Ross was playing well and Hurley didn’t give him enough minutes. We needed defense and Ross provided it. Ball was having an off night, he’s streaky but tonight he was way off and Danny should’ve left Ross in.
 
Oh boy, s\**t collapsed in this board fast.. Hope these guys can reset and ignore some of the comments here.. still lots of games left, and AK is a UConn legend no matter what (I hope AK can see this)
 
TheShot1990 said:
Play the hot hand and tonight Ross was playing well and Hurley didn’t give him enough minutes. We needed defense and Ross provided it. Ball was having an off night, he’s streaky but tonight he was way off and Danny should’ve left Ross in.
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His defense was really bad. It just didn't stick out like a sore thumb because basically everyone's defense was really bad.
 
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RuffRuff said:
The Hurley Karaban union needs to be studied. He's made this kid come back twice, plays him 38 mpg, when his market was highest after 2024 in a weak draft. Now he's back 2 years older, not looking all that great, in a loaded draft.

I'm sure he's pocketed some nice NIL, but man the kid missed his train. Coaching mismanagement there. And then we have to hear how decorated he is. Well, he would have been better off less decorated taking the same window kids like AJx took.
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Let me get this straight. You think it was Hurley's decision to make Karaban come back to UConn twice? I can assure you that isn't what happened. I can give you Alex's mother's phone number if you want to check on that.
 
We have been flirting with danger in games like this all year. We played like garbage against Georgetown then spent the last few days getting called out for fan support.

Well, tonight you had $2 beers, free t shirts, a kid walking 40 miles to the game and Okafor giving an impassioned speech at halftime.

And the team laid an egg.

Play better and the fans will act accordingly. This one is on the coach and the team.
 
husky429 said:
Reed is not the problem.
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I've been struggling to describe how I feel about Reed.

He should have had 28 and 18 tonight. Creighton plays a 6'8 230 pound PF at center and we stretch the floor from the other 4 spots on the court. Their backup center is a bad player from Turkey who'd have the Elezaj role on UConn, and has grabbed 15 total rebounds in their 12 games in the New Year.

Reed is a senior, and he just has absolutely no savvy. He has decent touch, but he doesn't know when to go aggressively to the rim (most of the time probably) and when to counter away with the hook.

He should have had 10 FT attempts and 8 offensive rebounds tonight, but just didn't. He knocked the ball out of bounds when trying to grab a board something like 6 times tonight. Don't get me started on the front ends of 1 and 1s. Teams should be hack-a-shaqing him.

We got a couple easy baskets attacking their drop coverage early, and then just nothing the rest of the game. He's got a 7'4" wingspan and very good athleticism but can't dunk lobs likely because he's too heavy, but he's also somehow not strong enough to seal to get easy buckets more than once or twice a game (despite running a ton of plays with this as the intent and goal).

Just... no savvy.
 
RuffRuff said:
The Rafael Palmeiro of Uconn. And I'm a big fan of the kid, just not sure him as a prospect was managed appropriately.
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That's about as low a insult as there is. Palmeiro never even got to the WS let alone win one. And he used PEDs.

You cannot be "a big fan of the kid" and do him dirty like that.
 
HW611 said:
Why do you have to use this crazy hyperbole about something I never said?

I was one of maybe 3 posters on this board who dared to think that Ross should be a starter. Not just a valuable wing.
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You mentioned other things besides starting. I didn’t think he’d start and still don’t think he should, but I never said boo until you mentioned other hyperbolic accolades you thought he’d achieve.
 
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storrsroars said:
That's about as low a insult as there is. Palmeiro never even got to the WS let alone win one. And he used PEDs.

You cannot be "a big fan of the kid" and do him dirty like that.
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Good point. Sans the PEDs. We do need to keep all the longevity records in context.
 
Mr. French said:
You mentioned other things besides starting. I didn’t think he’d start and still don’t think he should, but I never said boo until you mentioned other hyperbolic accolades you thought he’d achieve.
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You’re making up stuff to be mad about
 
Yeah I’m completely down with being honest about how good this team is. We were waiting for tonight’s performance to finally happen.

But diminishing Alex’s contributions to those championship teams is just wrong. He was vastly overqualified to be the 5th best starter those years, that doesn’t take away from his performances. He’s having an objectively very good final season, he was never built to average 20 per game, neither was Andre Jackson or Clingan.

There’s nobody on the bench to reduce Alex’s minutes for anyways. Y’all really want 15 minutes of Stew?
 
auror said:
I've been struggling to describe how I feel about Reed.

He should have had 28 and 18 tonight. Creighton plays a 6'8 230 pound PF at center and we stretch the floor from the other 4 spots on the court. Their backup center is a bad player from Turkey who'd have the Elezaj role on UConn, and has grabbed 15 total rebounds in their 12 games in the New Year.

Reed is a senior, and he just has absolutely no savvy. He has decent touch, but he doesn't know when to go aggressively to the rim (most of the time probably) and when to counter away with the hook.

He should have had 10 FT attempts and 8 offensive rebounds tonight, but just didn't. He knocked the ball out of bounds when trying to grab a board something like 6 times tonight. Don't get me started on the front ends of 1 and 1s. Teams should be hack-a-shaqing him.

We got a couple easy baskets attacking their drop coverage early, and then just nothing the rest of the game. He's got a 7'4" wingspan and very good athleticism but can't dunk lobs likely because he's too heavy, but he's also somehow not strong enough to seal to get easy buckets more than once or twice a game (despite running a ton of plays with this as the intent and goal).

Just... no savvy.
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I agree with a lot of that but we also stopped giving him the ball and resorted to jacking up bad shots and AK putting it on the deck when we had the lead.

He's a flawed player but we still would've won that game if we kept dumping it down to him.
 
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auror said:
I've been struggling to describe how I feel about Reed.

He should have had 28 and 18 tonight. Creighton plays a 6'8 230 pound PF at center and we stretch the floor from the other 4 spots on the court. Their backup center is a bad player from Turkey who'd have the Elezaj role on UConn, and has grabbed 15 total rebounds in their 12 games in the New Year.

Reed is a senior, and he just has absolutely no savvy. He has decent touch, but he doesn't know when to go aggressively to the rim (most of the time probably) and when to counter away with the hook.

He should have had 10 FT attempts and 8 offensive rebounds tonight, but just didn't. He knocked the ball out of bounds when trying to grab a board something like 6 times tonight. Don't get me started on the front ends of 1 and 1s. Teams should be hack-a-shaqing him.

We got a couple easy baskets attacking their drop coverage early, and then just nothing the rest of the game. He's got a 7'4" wingspan and very good athleticism but can't dunk lobs likely because he's too heavy, but he's also somehow not strong enough to seal to get easy buckets more than once or twice a game (despite running a ton of plays with this as the intent and goal).

Just... no savvy.
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Yes. This has been talked about. He's going to get his numbers because he's a big, physically talented starting five. He unfortunately has no feel or instincts. @KingAG used a term on a thread this week that described him fairly accurately. He's not the only one on this team where that term applies.
 
Mr. French said:
I’m in no way mad and I’m not making stuff up.
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Go ahead and find one of those hyperbolic statements. Most I may have said was that he’s an NBA guy.

Getting mad about me receiving credit for my Ross takes way ahead of time and making stuff up to step on it is weird man.
 
Sooner or later this was bound to happen. Go figure you lose when 2 starters and the entire bench no show.

Things could very easily tailspin from here - looking forward to seeing how they respond Sat and next week is the Johnnies.
 
superjohn said:
I agree with a lot of that but we also stopped giving him the ball and resorted to jacking up bad shots and AK putting it on the deck when we had the lead.

He's a flawed player but we still would've won that game if we kept dumping it down to him.
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He wasn't getting open and when we went to him twice in the final 10 minutes he took fadeaway hooks and clanked a front end of a 1 and 1.
 
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